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HomeMy WebLinkAbout093092 CC Minutes MINUTES OF A JOINT MEETING OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION HELD SEPTEMBER 30, 1992 A joint meeting of the City of Temecula City Council and Planning Commission was called to order Wednesday, September 30, 1992, 6:00 P.M., Temecula City Hall Main Conference Room, 43174 Business Park Drive, Temecula, California. The meeting was called to order by Mayor Patricia H. Birdsall. Mayor Pro Tern Lindemans led the flag salute. PRESENT: 5 COUNCIL MEMBERS: Lindemans, Moore, Mu~oz, Parks, Birdsall ABSENT: 0 COUNCIL MEMBERS: None PRESENT: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Chiniaeff, Hoagland ABSENT: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Fahey, Ford Also present were City Manager David Dixon and City Clerk June Greek. Commissioner Ford arrived at 6:05 P.M. PUBLIC COMM!:NTS None COUNCIL BUSINESS Mark Kramer, 40646 Calle Fiesta, Temecula, representing the Meadowview Homeowners Association questioned if the City plans to condemn the association common area which the City's proposed trails master plan enters into. Mr. Kramer advised that the association supports its own recreation program and provides many amenities for the homeowners. Mr. Kramer expressed concern that because of the rural environment in Meadowview, bringing the trail system through the common area would be an invasion of privacy and a security problem for the residents. Mr. Kramer also expressed concern regarding the proposed lengthening and widening of North General Kearney which would separate 75 homes from the association. Mr. Kramer stated that he would like to see buffering of the proposed roadway and the houses addressed. 1. Introduction and Background Planning Director Gary Thornhill provided an introduction and background of the meeting. CCPCMINO9/30/92 -1- 10/12/92 CITY COUNCIl/P! ANNING COMMISSION MINUT!=S 2. S!=PT!=MB!=R 30. 199; Discussion Regarding General Plan Issues Senior Planner John Meyer presented a staff report briefly outlining each topic, followed by Council and Commission discussion as follows: A. Levels of Service for Police and Fire Councilmember Parks questioned whether there is a need for increased levels of service by law enforcement in areas of high density housing. Police Chief Rick Sayre stated he is comfortable with the service level being provided. It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Councilmember Moore to make no change to the service levels for police and fire. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 5 COUNCIL MEMBERS: NOES: 0 AYES: 4 NOES: 0 ABSENT: 1 COUNCIL MEMBERS: COMMISSIONERS: COMMISSIONERS: COMMISSIONERS: Commissioner Fahey arrived at 6:15 P.M. B. Trails Master Plan Lindemans, Moore, Parks, Birdsall None Blair, Chiniaeff, Hoagland None Fahey Mu~oz, Ford, John Meyer advised that the Parks and Recreation Master Plan Committee approved the plan on September 29, 1992. Mayor Birdsall questioned if the concerns expressed by the Meadowview Homeowners Association have been addressed by the Committee. John Meyer stated that there were two possibilities discussed: 1) take the trail system through the common area or 2) take the trail system to the east paralleling Meadowview. Commissioner Hoagland supported the conceptual plan for trails, however, was CCPCMIN09/30/92 -2- 10/12/92 CITY COUNCIL/P! ANNIN~ COMMISSION MINUT!:S S!=PT!=MB!=R 30. 1999 not in support of the General Plan containing a map reflecting the conceptual trail system. Pat Ommert, 38951 Pauba Road, Temecula, representing the Rancho California Horseroans Association of Temecula Valley, addressed the Temecula Creek and expressed the need for a connector through Los Ranchitos to the area of the Pala Park Site. Mayor Pro Tern Lindemans stated that the Meadowview Homeowners have their own trail system and if they do not want the City trail system going through their common area their wishes should be complied with. It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Councilmember Moore to approve the concept of placing the trail system over public or private property, whichever is most applicable and direct the Master Plan Committee to wait until completion of the General Plan before establishing specific routes. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 4 COUNCIL MEMBERS: Moore, Mu~oz, Parks, Birdsall NOES: 1 COUNCIL MEMBERS: Lindemans AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Chiniaeff, Fahey, Ford NOES: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Hoagland Mayor Birdsall declared a recess at 7:00 P.M. The meeting was reconvened at 7:10 P.M. C. Community. Highway and Service Commercial Land Use Policies Councilmember Parks stated this issue should be approached with the view that the General Plan does not present a hardship to any property owner. It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Mayor Pro Tern Lindemans to give special consideration to property owners who have a hardship due to the land use designations established in Assessment Districts 159 or 161. Commissioner Hoagland stated he feels the City should address land uses based on the needs of the City, and not what effects it has on the property owner. Commissioner Blair stated she would not support the motion which she feels deals with specific parcels and the Council and Commission are suppose to be dealing with concepts. Councilmember Moore stated she objects to the motion because it addresses a financial CCPCMIN09/30/92 -3- 10/12/92 CITY COUNCIl/P! ANNING COMMISSION MINUT!=S SI:PTI:MB!:R 30, 1999 hardship, not good planning practices. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 4 NOES: 1 AYES: 3 NOES: 2 COUNCIL MEMBERS: COUNCIL MEMBERS: COMMISSIONERS: COMMISSIONERS: Land Use Designations in the Chal;)arral Area Lindemans, Mu~oz, Parks, Birdsall Moore Chiniaeff, Fahey, Ford Blair, Hoagland Councilmember Parks stepped down due to a conflict of interest. Bev Stone, 43136 John Warner Road, Temecula, representing the homeowners in the Chaparral area, supported a designation of very low density. Tim Oreliana, 30695 Lolita Road, Temecula, stated that he supports the designation of very low density. Commissioner Hoagland stated he feels very low density is more appropriate due to the lack of sufficient infrastructure to support higher densities and recommended that this be designated as a special study area and establish criteria performance standards. It was moved by Commissioner Chiniaeff, seconded by Commissioner Hoagland to designate the Chaparral Area as "very low" density subject to a designated special study area should be defined by staff and establish performance standards. Larry Markham, Markham & Associates, 41750 Winchester Road, Temecula, stated that he feels there are some areas in the Chaparral more suited to higher densities and the area be defined as low to very low with policies. Commissioner Blair called for the question, seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Lindemans. The vote was unanimous with Councilmember Parks abstaining due to a conflict of interest. CCPCMIN09/30/92 -4- 10/12/92 CITY COUNCIL/P! ANNIN~ COMMISSION MINUTFS The motion was carried as follows: AYES: 4 NOES: 0 ABSTAIN: 1 AYES: 5 COUNCIL MEMBERS: COUNCIL MEMBERS: COUNCIL MEMBERS: COMMISSIONERS: NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: S!=PT!:MBr:R 30. 199:~ Lindemans, Moore, Mu~oz, Birdsall Fahey, Ford, None Parks Blair, Chiniaeff, Hoagland None Mayor Birdsall declared a recess at 8:25 P.M. The meeting reconvened at 8:35 P.M. F. Ho Fxtension of North General Kearney Road It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Commissioner Blair to designate the extension of North General Kearney Road as part of the circulation element and direct staff to work with the property owners to address the issues of horses and double frontages. The motion was carried as follows: AYES: 4 COUNCIL MEMBERS: Lindemans, Moore, Mu~oz, Parks NOES: 0 COUNCIL MEMBERS: None ABSTAIN: 1 COUNCIL MEMBERS: Birdsall AYES: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSTAIN: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Chiniaeff, Fahey, Hoagland Technical Subcommittees and Town Hall Meeting Summaries Summaries were included in agenda packages. Additional Topics Raised by Councilmembers or Commissioners It was moved by Commissioner Blair, seconded by Commissioner Hoagland to schedule Planning Commission public hearings as follows: CCPCMIN09/30/92 -5- 10/12/92 CITY COUNCIl/P! ANNING COMMISSION MINUTES sr:PT!=MB!=R 30, 1999 October 19, 1992, 6:00 - 10:00 P.M., Public Hearing on six elements of the General Plan October 26, 1992, 6:00 - 10:00 P.M., Public Hearing to conduct Planning Commission business November 2, 1992, 6:00 - 10:00 P.M., Public Hearing on three elements of the General Plan November 16, 1992, 6:00- 10:00 P.M., Public Hearing to conduct Planning Commission business The motion was unanimously approved. CITY MANAC-!=R'S R;PORT None CITY COUNCIL R!=PORTS Mayor Birdsall advised of the following events: * October 2 - 4, Temecula Tractor Race * October 3, City Golf Tournament * October 5, CRC Ground Breaking Ceremony * October 16, Commission Recognition Banquet pII ANNING COMMISSION REPORTS None CCPCMINO9/30/92 -6- 1 O/12/92 CITY COUNCIl/P! ANNING COMMISSION MINUT;S S;PT!=MB!=R 30, 1999 ADJOURNM;NT It was moved by Mayor Pro Tern Lindemans, seconded by Councilmember Parks to adjourn to a special City Council meeting on October 6, 1992, 7:00 P.M., Temecula Community Center, 28816 Pujol Street, Temecula. The motion was unanimously carried. It was moved by Commissioner Chiniaeff, seconded by Commissioner Blair to cancel the Planning Commission meeting of October 5, 1992_ and adjourn to the Planning Commission meeting of October 19, 1992, 6:00 P.M., Vail Elementary School, 29915 Mira Loma, Temecula. The motion was unanimously carried. Patricia H. Birdsall, Mayor ATTEST: [SEAL] CCPCMIN09/30/92 -7- 10/12/92