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HomeMy WebLinkAbout110292 PC MinutesMINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA PLANNING COMMISSION NOVEMBER 2, 1992 A regular meeting of the City of Temecula Planning Commission was called to order Monday, November 2, 1992, 6:00 P.M., at Vail Elementary School, 29915 Mira Loma Drive, Temecula, California. The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Linda Fahey. PRESENT: ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Chiniaeff, Ford, Hoagland, Fahey 0 COMMISSIONERS: None Also present were Assistant City Attorney John Cavanaugh, Planning Director Gary Thornhill, Senior Planner John Meyer and Minute Clerk Gall Zigler. PUBLIC COMMENTS Councilmember Mu~oz advised the Commission that he has met with a group of Meadowview residents and committed to support the majority opinion of the Meadowview Homeowners regarding the North General Kearney Road extension. COMMISSION BUSINESS 1. Approval of Agenda It was moved by Commissioner Blair, seconded by Commissioner Ford to approve the agenda. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Chiniaeff, Ford, Hoagland, Fahey NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None PCMIN 11/02/92 PUBLIC HEARING 2. General Plan Assistant City Attorney John Cavanaugh provided clarification and direction on conflict of interest issues, It was moved by Commissioner Chiniaeff, seconded by Commissioner Hoagland to eliminate the map (5-3) of the trail system from the Open Space/Conservation Element of the General Plan and let the element relate to policies rather than the specific -1- 11/13/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES diagram. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: NOVEMBER 2, 1992 Blair, Chiniaeff, Ford, Hoagland, Fahey None Section 1. Draft Open Space/Conservation Element John Meyer presented the staff report. He advised that staff had received a letter from the "Preserve Our Plateau" commending the changes to the draft general plan and stating they would like to make other important additions in terms of environmental protection and wildlife habitat. The items they are commending are some of the items that the Commission has directed staff to remove, which has been done. Chairman Fahey reopened the continued public hearing at 6:30 P.M. Barbara Ryan, 40340 Paseo Sereno, Temecula, representing the equestrian community, addressed the issue of equestrian safety the affect loud noises and moving vehicles has on horses and suggested that the proposed equestrian trails are not safe and should be walked to determine whether they are safe for horses. Kristy Varella, 43910 Flores, Temecula, advised that she is a trail committee member for District One, Riverside County. She reported a recent phone survey and trail workshops show that people want more biking, jogging and nature trails. Ms. Varella advised that she has had the opportunity to look at a very good alternate trail route that provides a north/south intersection through the City. The route is an aqueduct that runs north and south just outside of Meadowview and utilizes existing trails that have been built by developers. Ms. Varella advised that she attends the annual state trails conference and a guest speaker provided a presentation on the trail system in Susanville. The people who live adjacent to the trail system have found that the trail users are very environmentally consciencious and take care of the trails. Mike Butler, 29760 Pasado Road, Temecula, expressed concern regarding crime and safety liability and the proposed trail system through Meadowview. Maria Hetzner, 40657 Carmelita Circle, Temecula, expressed opposition to the proposed trail system through Meadowview. John Meyer advised the trail map has been removed per the recommendation to the City Council by the Planning Commission. PCMIN11102/92 -2- 11/13/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 2, 1992 Gary King advised that the Parks and Recreation Commission will prepare the Parks and Recreation Master Plan and comments made by the homeowners tonight will be presented to the Commission. Maria Hetzner asked that the City involve the homeowners in the planning of the Parks and Recreation Master Plan. Bob Lemons, 31040 Avenida Buena Suerte, Temecula, expressed strong opposition to the proposed trail and advised that the trail is shown running through the back of his property on the utility easement. Greg Treadway, 40550 Calle Madero, Temecula, opposed the trail and recommended that the older existing residential areas with their own trail systems be left off the master plan for trails. Commissioner Chiniaeff suggested Policy 2.1, page 5-27, be amended to ensure that public health, safety and welfare is also being addressed. Commissioner Hoagland recommended the policies reflect the city's participation in groups and tasks force in general and not specifics. Commissioner Hoagland suggested Goal 5, regarding the environmental resources of the Santa Margarita River, should provide more a specific policy. A straw vote was taken and the overall consensus of the Commission was to delete the map (5-3) from the open space element and add language to Policy 2.1 to ensure the public health, safety and welfare is addressed. Section 2. Draft Housing Element John Meyer presented the staff report. Commissioner Ford asked staff to correct Table 4-19, page 4-34, which reflects interior side yard dimensions as 7 ft. for Low-Medium density as opposed to 10 ft. for both Low and Medium densities. Commissioner Ford asked that Transitional Housing and Emergency Housing be addressed on Table 4-25, page 4-50 and 4-51, showing funding sources. Commissioner Hoagland questioned Table 4-22, (page 4-44), which refers to the Planning Department as the responsible agency in areas that are under County authorization (such as Section 8 housing, mobile home parks). Gary Thornhill suggested amending Table 4-22 to say "Planning Department, Redevelopment Agency or other responsible agency". PCMIN 11/02/92 ~3- 11/13/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 2, 1992 Chairman Fahey opened the public hearing at 7:30 P.M. Sandy Wilson, 40390 Carmelita Circle, Temecula, asked for clarification of the emergency fund. Chris Bryant, Avenida Buena Suerte, Temecula, asked for clarification of the requirement to provide housing for the homeless. A straw vote was taken and the overall consensus of the Commission was to approve the Draft Housing Element correcting Table 4-19, side yard dimensions for Low- Medium densities; reference to transitional and emergency housing and funding sources on Table 4-25; and, Table 4-22 amended to read "Planning Department, Redevelopment Agency or other responsible agency" under Responsible Agency. Section 3. Circulation Element Chairman Fahey and Commissioner Chiniaeff advised they would be abstaining from discussions regarding North General Kearney Road because of a potential conflict of interest due to the proximity of their personal residences. John Meyer presented the staff report. Commissioner Hoagland asked what the impact would be if the link was not made between the northern part of town (Nicolas Road) and the more central part of town (Margarita Road). Bob Davis, representing Wilbur Smith and Associates, traffic consultants to the City, advised the impact would be an additional 7,000 to 8,000 vehicles placed on Winchester Road which is currently operating at capacity. Vice Chairman Blair opened the public hearing at 7:40 P.M. Mark Kramer, 40646 Calle Fiesta, Temecula, representing the Meadowview Homeowners Association, advised that at the last HOA meeting the Meadowview Homeowners Association Board of Directors was mandated by the homeowners to oppose the North General Kearney Road extension. The following individuals expressed their opposition to the North General Kearney Road extension. Their oppositions were directed towards issues of safety of children, equestrian, and pets, noise and exhaust pollution, decrease of property values, invasion of privacy, loss of rural environment, and homes fronting and abutting main roads. Kevin McKenzie, 40557 La Colima, (Meadowview). Jess Hetzner, 40657 Carmelita Circle, (Meadowview). Sandy Wilson, 40390 Carmelita Circle, (Meadowview). Maria Hetzner, 40657 Carmelita Circle, (Meadowview). PCMIN 11/02/92 -4- 11/13/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 2, 1992 Chris DiFederico, 40645 Calle Madero, (Meadowview). Ron Guerriero, 41510 Chenin Blanc, Temecula. Barbara Ryan, 40340 Paseo Sereno, (Meadowview). Dennis Jackson, 30903 Avenida Del Reposo, (Meadowview). Bob Johnston, 29760 Valle Verde, (Meadowview). Les Putnam, 31180 Kahwea Road, Temecula. Virginia Kelly, 30460 Cabrillo, Temecula. David Ciabattoni, 41 646 Avenida de la Reina, (Meadowview). Greg Treadway, 40550 Calle Madero, (Meadowview). Richard Moriki, 40445 Carmelita Circle, (Meadowview), distributed a map offering an alternative route to the North General Kearney Road extension. Paul Nelson, 40685 La Colima, (Meadowview). Nelson Bettancamp, 40835 Calle Medusa, Temecula. Lorna Santoro, Meadowview property owner. Jeff Stone, 43136 John Warner, Temecula. Victor Santoro, Meadowview property owner. Commissioner Hoagland questioned the impact on the circulation element if a North General Kearney Road extension is eliminated. Bob Davis advised that one of the plans under the Congestion Management Program identifies certain roads within the County that need to adhere to certain level of service standards and Winchester Road is part of that Congestion Management Program system. If Winchester Road drops to a level of Service E or worse, the City will be responsible for trying to mitigate the impacts or possibly lose funding (currently approximately $130,000 a year) from Proposition 111 Gas Tax. Commissioner Hoagland stated that per the information that he has, the City will not be able to meet it's goal, so why create two problems. He also questioned the alternatives available if there was no North General Kearney Road extension. Commissioner Ford stated that unless all the reports reflect that everything has been mitigated, he cannot support going forward with the North General Kearney Road extension. Vice Chairman Blair stated that she was not satisfied with the data presented to support the need for the road and would support deferring until further information could be provided to support the extension. Commissioner Ford stated the map distributed by Richard Moriki showing a Nicolas Road to Date Street connection was a good recommendation, however, the Joint Temecula/Murrieta Traffic Committee is not sure if they will be able to get a crossing at Date Street and if it will have on and off ramps. PCMIN 11/02/92 -5- 11/13/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 2, 1992 Commissioner Hoagland stated he would like to see a model run without the North General Kearney Road extension and with the Nicolas Road to Date Street connection. It was moved by Commissioner Hoagland, seconded by Commissioner Ford to continue the extension of North General Kearney to the next scheduled public hearing on the Draft General Plan. AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Ford, Hoagland NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSTAIN: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Chiniaeff, Fahey Gary Thornhill advised that the Draft Land Use Element would be continued to the next schedule public hearing on the Draft General Plan. Chairman Fahey declared a recess at 9:15 P.M. The meeting reconvened at 9:20 P.M. Chairman Fahey advised that the next scheduled public hearing on the Draft Land Use Element would be November 23, 1992, 6:00 P.M., Vail Elementary School, 29915 Mira Loma Drive, Temecula. Jim Meyler, 29930 Santiago Road, Temecula, (Los Ranohitos), advised that there is a identical proposal for Santiago Road which will present the same problem as the one discussed for Meadowview. Mr. Meyler stated that after reviewing the map there are five, parallel secondary highways that run east to west and asked that Santiago Road be down graded to two lanes. Dale Wooding, 41979 Alton Court, Temecula, representing Channell Commercial Corporation, which is adjacent to planned development in Winchester Hills. He advised that there are a number issues relative to the planned development changes, other than those conveyed to the firm when the property was purchased, and a manufacturing site was built, which will be in direct conflict with the goals and policies of the General Plan. Ed Burke, 30944 Wellington Circle, Temecula, representing Charmell Commercial Corporation, stated that when the property was purchased it was shown to be part of a commercial /industrial park. It is now directly adjacent to a housing development. Bill Channell, 26040 Ynez Road, Temecula, owner of Channell Commercial Corporation, addressed the negative impacts to the financial value of the facility. Bernie Thomas, 31525 Avenida Del Reposo, Temecula, stated that the overall problems are being related to the Campos Verde specific plan. He asked that specific plan be looked at with respect to the impacts it has on existing developments. PCMIN 11/02/92 -6- 11/13/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 2, 1992 Nayree Davis, 28895 Vallejo Avenue, Temecula, representing the Los Ranchitos Homeowners Association, addressing concerns with regards to the widening of Santiago Road, Ynez Road and Jedediah Smith Road, which are all located in a very low density area that includes Los Ranchitos and Santiago Estates. She asked that the rural environment be maintained and these roads remain two lanes. Lettie Boggs, representing the Temecula Valley Unified School District, proposed that it is safer for young pedestrians not be directly adjacent to the roadway, and suggested that the landscape median be between the sidewalk and the landscaped roadway. Bey Stone, 43136 John Warner Road, Temecula, questioned if the boundaries of the Chaparral Area have been corrected and expressed her support of Santiago, Ynez and Jedediah Smith Roads remaining two lane roadways. John Meyer advised that they have been corrected. Louis Tood, 30645 Southern Cross, Temecula, representing New Lutheran Community Church, expressed support of Los Ranchitos maintaining its rural environment. Commissioner Hoagland questioned why secondary four lane roads were being proposed for Jedediah Smith, Santiago Road, North General Kearney, in general, as opposed to secondary two lane roads. Bob Davis advised that a lot the roads were taken off of the County's General Plan and kept in there original state. Santiago was originally classified as an arterial, and was dropped down two classifications to a secondary. The volumes are low for a secondary, however, there are concerns about the levels of service for Rancho California Road and Highway 79 South. He stated that Jedediah Smith Road could be down graded to a two lane road, however, he would be concerned with down grading Santiago Road. Chairman Fahey questioned Ynez Road reflected on the map as a four lane major in one section and a four lane secondary in another section from Rancho California Road to Santiago. Chairman Fahey stated she would recommend leaving the portion from Pauba Road to Santiago Road as four lane major. Bob Davis stated there is a significant drop in volumes from Pauba Road to Santiago Road. Robert Righetti advised that several projects north of Santiago have already been conditioned for 100' right-of-way. Commissioner Chiniaeff suggested the issue of truck circulation through Old Town should be addressed. PCMIN 11/02/92 -7- 11/13/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 2, 1992 Larry Markham, Markham Associates, 41750 Winchester Road, Temecula, suggested the Ynez/Jackson connection be tied into Whitewood. A straw vote was taken and the overall concensus of the Commission was to continue the public hearing on the North General Kearney Road extension and approve the remainder of the Draft Circulation Element, directing staff to address truck traffic through the Old Town area. Chairman Fahey continued the public hearing at 10:15 P.M. to the meeting of November 23, 1992. PLANNING DIRECTOR REPORT Gary Thornhill reminded the Commission of the joint Planning Commission/City Council meeting on November 18, 1992, 6:30 P.M., Temecula City Hall Main Conference Room, 43174 Business Park Drive, Temecula, California. PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION None OTHER BUSINESS None ADJOURNMENT Chairman Fahey declared the meeting adjourned at 10:20 P.M. The next regular meeting of the City of Temecula Planning Commission will be held on Monday, November 16,1992,6:00P.M.,VailElementar¥School, 29(~~~/~ Temecula. PCMIN 11/02/92 -8- 11/13/92