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HomeMy WebLinkAbout101992 PC MinutesMINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA PLANNING COMMISSION MONDAY, OCTOBER 19, 1992 A regular meeting of the City of Temecula Planning Commission was called to order Monday, October 19, 1992, 6:00 P.M., at Vail Elementary School, 29915 Mira Loma Drive, Temecula, California. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Linda Fahey. PRESENT: ABSENT: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Chiniaeff, Ford, Hoagland, Fahey 0 COMMISSIONERS: None Also present were Assistant City Attorney John Cavanaugh, Planning Director Gary Thornhill, Senior Planner Debbie Ubnoske, Senior Planner John Meyer and Minute Clerk Gail Zigler. PUBLIC COMMENTS None COMMISSION BUSINESS 1. Approval of Aaenda It was moved by Commissioner Hoagland, seconded by Commissioner Chiniaeff to approve the agenda as presented. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Chiniaeff, Ford, Hoagland, Fahey NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None Minutes of September 21, 1992 Planning Commission Meeting Debbie Ubnoske asked the Commission for clarification of the recommendation made regarding grading, Page 9, last paragraph. Commissioner Chiniaeff advised that it was his recommendation that trees be planted on the slopes at the time of rough grading. Commissioner Ford requested his comments on Page 7, after the motion, be amended to read, ". .... issues could be mitigated and prior to making a decision based on the material that was provided, further studies are needed for clarification." PCMIN 10/19/92 -1- 11/30/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OCTOBER 19, 1992 Robert Righetti, Plan Check Engineer, amended Page 6, fourth paragraph as follows, "...Ynez Road and Santiago Road will be conditioned for 88 + foot right-of-way." It was moved by Commissioner Blair, seconded by Commissioner Ford to approve the minutes of September 21, 1992 as amended. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Chiniaeff, Ford, Hoagland, Fahey NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS 3. Public Use Permit No. 5 - Denial Resolution It was moved by Commissioner Chiniaeff, seconded by Commissioner Hoagland to approve Resolution No. 92-036 denying Public Use Permit No. 5, amending the Resolution with an additional finding under D-1 to read, "Due to the large concentration of churches/public uses in the immediate area". Commissioner Ford stated that D-1 -a. is not supported by statistical data and therefore should be deleted. Commissioner Ford added that when a property is considered for a church use it requires a public use permit, Finding (D-2), "that the zoning does not allow churches", would restrict any church from applying for a public use permit. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Chiniaeff, Hoagland, Fahey NOES: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Ford PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS 4. General Plan Gary Thornhill provided a brief introduction of the General Plan document. Karen Gulley, The Planning Center, provided an overview of the phases of the General Plan process as follows: Project kick-off Data collection, research, analysis Issue/Opportunity area analysis PCMIN10/19/92 -2- 11/30/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES * Alternative plans, policies and implementation measures * Preparation of Draft General Plan and elements * Draft Zoning Ordinance * Public Hearings and Approvals John Meyer presented the staff report on the elements as follows: DRAFT PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT Chairman Fahey opened the public hearing at 6:45 P.M. Richard Moriki, 40445 Carmelira Circle, Temecula, asked the Commission to address acceptable levels of exhaust and noise pollution in terms of automobiles. John Meyer suggested that the issue of automobile exhaust and noise pollution be addressed under the Air Quality Element. Commissioner Ford questioned the need for specific areas to be listed under Dam Inundation. Karen Gulley suggested staff review the detailed maps and compile more explicit data. Commissioner Hoagland stated that Item 2, Page 7-11, Railroad Canyon Dam, would have no impacts on the City of Temecula and should be deleted. A straw vote was taken and the Commission unanimously approved enhanced descriptions of flood zones subject to dam inundation and the deletion of Item No. 2, Page 7-11. OCTOBER 19, 1992 DRAFT NOISE ELEMENT Richard Moriki, 40445 Carmelita Circle, Temecula, requested clarification of the acceptable levels of noise in a residential area, and what is unacceptable if a major development were to move into or near a residential area. John Dedovich, 39450 Long Ridge Drive, Temecula, expressed concern that the draft general plan document reveals Winchester Road is currently the second highest noise generating project and many residential areas will be greatly impacted when Winchester Road is improved to a six lane highway. Maria Hetzner, 40657 Carmelita Circle, Temecula, expressed concern that Meadowview will lose it's rural atmosphere if North General Kearney is improved to a four lane roadway. PCMIN10/19/92 -3- 11/30/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OCTOBER 19, 1992 John Meyer advised that the policy states acceptable noise level standards as 45 CNEL-interior and 65 CNEL-exterior for residential uses. John Meyer added that Goal 4 - "Minimize Noise Impacts From Transportation Noise Sources" - addresses the concerns expressed regarding increased noise impacts resulting from improvements to infrastructures. Gary Thornhill added that the City will have to look at areas where roads do not exist today because the County did not previously address circulation issues. Greg Treadway, 40550 Calle Madero, Temecula, stated that noise, public safety and traffic, air quality and community design are all issues that are concerns of the Meadowview homeowners. A straw vote was taken and the Commission unanimously approved the Draft Noise Element as presented. DRAFT AIR QUALITY ELEMENT Gary Thornhill advised that whatever is done in the area of air quality, the City must follow the South Coast Air Quality Management District's plan. A straw vote was taken and the Commission unanimously approved the Draft Air Quality Element as presented. DRAFT COMMUNITY DESIGN ELEMENT Commissioner Ford suggested that Goal 4.4 be amended to require the citywide street tree and median/slope planting program include a diversity of species. John Dedovich, 39450 Long Ridge Drive, Temecula, expressed concern that Issue 6. (c.), page 10-16, did not provide adequate detail or explanation. Jane Vernon, 30268 Mercey Court, Temecula, expressed concern that there is no Goal to establish a requirement for water retention. John Meyer advised that staff received a letter from Melvin and Beverly Southward, Meadowview homeowners, expressing concern for adequate buffering of their rural horse property and the proposed Campos Verde development which will be adjacent to their property. In their letter the Southwards state that the developer has proposed a 40' buffer zone between the two developments which the Southwards feel is unacceptable. They proposed a minimum 100' buffer with a better transition of rural horse property to residential. PCMIN10/19/92 -4- 11/30/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OCTOBER 19, 1992 Maria Hetzner, 40657 Carmelita Circle, Temecula, questioned how the City plans to maintain the rural environment of Meadowview with the City's plan to place a four lane highway through open fields. Marty Andrews, Meadowview homeowner, stated that the residents of Meadowview want to keep the rural environment in Meadowview and throughout the City. Chairman Fahey clarified that land use was not a part of the agenda. Gary Thornhill advised that the City Council is currently working on a Temporary Sign Ordinance which is designed to be more specific than the sign elements of the General Plan. Commissioner Chiniaeff suggested that additional language be inserted on Page 10-9 (A), addressing the transition between the various types of residential areas (i.e. multiple and single family houses). Commissioner Hoagland suggested under Implementation, Item E - Art in public places, should not be included in the General Plan due to the level of controversy which it could bring about. Commissioner Chiniaeff and Chairman Fahey concurred. A straw vote was taken and the majority vote was to delete Item E. under Implementation. AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Chiniaeff, Hoagland, Fahey NOES: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Ford Chairman Fahey expressed concern about the lack of specificity in the language addressing the transition between the different types of developments. John Meyer stated that staff could provide firmer direction in the General Plan policy. It was the overall consensus of the Commission to direct staff to provide more specific language to address the transition from one type of development to another, primarily rural residential to higher density residential. A straw vote was taken and the overall consensus of the Commission was to approve the Draft Community Design Element, deleting Implementation Item E. and providing more specific language to address the transition from one development to another. Chairman Fahey declared a recess at 7:50 P.M. The meeting reconvened at 8:00 P.M. PCMIN10/19/92 -5- 11/30/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OCTOBER 19, 1992 DRAFT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ELEMENT Commissioner Chiniaeff clarified that under Policy 6.4, the reference to "art in public places" should be deleted as stated under the Community Design Element. Jim Meyler, 29930 Santiago Road, Temecula, advised that he has requested that the City should take credit for the fact they have made a substantial contribution to the arts and the performing arts in the community and there should be encouragement of the development of performing arts facilities in the community. Mr. Meyler added that another concern would be the maintenance of some of the outstanding residential areas within the community such as Meadowview and Los Ranchitos. Richard Moriki, 40445 Carmelita Circle, Temecula, questioned if the City had any projected limits in the terms of "no growth". John Meyer addressed Mr. Meyler's comments advising that under Goal 6, policy 6.4 was added which states "Enhance the City's image through the development of cultural facilities including performing arts and museums". Commissioner Chiniaeff expressed concern regarding Item 7 on Page 11-11, regarding attracting a minor league baseball team. Commissioner Hoagland suggested that more appropriate language might be "commercial" or "franchise" sports. A straw vote was taken and the overall consensus of the Commission to approve the Draft Economic Development Element amending Implementation Item 7 to address sports in general. DRAFT GROWTH MANAGEMENT/PUBLIC FACILITIES ELEMENT Commissioner Chiniaeff expressed his concern with regard to developments being required to set-aside land for religious institutions, C - (3) under implementation. John Meyer suggested amending Sections C - (3) with the word "designation" to replace "set-aside". Frank Klein, 30180 Santiago Road, Temecula, expressed concern that with the continued growth of the City, stating there will be an increase in crime and therefore need for increased law enforcement resources, especially in those areas designated as high density. Lettie Boggs, representing the Temecula Valley Unified School District, requested the following modifications to Goal 4 and policies: PCMIN 10/19/92 -6- 11/30/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OCTOBER 19, 1992 4.1 Delete the words "with information". 4.2 Amend to read "Coordinate the phasing of project..." She also requested the Commission review policy 4.3 which does not have provisions which address a facility that is deemed inadequate. It was proposed by Commissioner Blair that the Commission agree to amend the Goals and Policies at the request of the school district. AYES: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey NOES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Chiniaeff, Ford, Hoagland Commissioner Hoagland stated that he was not clear on the responsibility of the City relative to drainage facilities. Karen Gulley stated that the intent is to take steps toward providing a Master Drainage Plan for Temecula Creek. The overall consensus of the Commission was to amend Goal 7 - Policy 7.2 to read "Facilitate the preparation of a City of Temecula Master Drainage Plan .... " Karen Gulley explained that the levels of service are not specifically defined in the draft document at this time, however, part of the growth management strategy discusses the importance of establishing level of service standards. The policy recommends that the standards for police, fire and paramedic service be stated in response times and the personnel ratio. Chairman Fahey recommended that the second paragraph, last sentence under B. Police Protection Services, be corrected by replacing "this high level of service..." with "a high level of service...". Karen Gulley suggested that it could read "adopted level of service...". Commissioner Chiniaeff suggested that Goal 2, policy 2.1, details, should be provided under "Implementation" on the Growth Management Program. Commissioner Blair questioned if the statement on Page 6-7 regarding response times and personnel ratios was strong enough to direct the City in the matter of response times for police, because the City is currently very far away from that response time. Commissioner Blair added that she feels the Goal appears to indicate the City is satisfied with the current levels of service and she feels the City is not satisfied with the current standards. Mike Gray stated that when negotiating contracts with City's, the Fire Department uses the Fire Protection Master Plan which has a number of criteria used for setting PCMIN 10119/92 -7- 11/30/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OCTOBER 19, 1992 response times. He suggested that the Fire Protection Master Plan be included in the General Plan as the standard setting document. It was the majority consensus of the Commission that staff work with the Fire and Sheriff's Departments and define the standards for establishing emergency response times as part of the implementation program. A straw vote was taken and the overall consensus of the Commission to approve the goals and policies under the Draft Growth Management/Public Facilities Element which were not amended. DRAFT OPEN SPACE/CONSERVATION ELEMENT Commissioner Ford suggested amending page 5-1, third paragraph as follows "but maintains viable agricultural land outside of the city" to read "encourage viable ....... ". Commissioner Ford expressed concern that Conservation of Resources language is very specific and restrictive in nature and not the general consensus. Leah Klotsas, 30650 Del Rey Road, Temecula, Meadowview homeowner, expressed concern that a trail is proposed on the MWD easement. These trails will go through private property and private backyards and in some areas the trail is very steep and dangerous. Fred Buss, City of Murrieta Planning Department, 26442 Beckman Court, Murrieta, expressed the City of Murrieta's concern that the City of Temecula has a number of designations planned for an area which is in the sphere of influence of the City of Murrieta's General Plan. Mike Beal, 30010 Del Rey Road, Temecula, expressed concern that adding traffic along North General Kearney will create a potential for people driving across the bike trails. George Coriarty, 30535 Avenida Estrada, Temecula, expressed concern that a trail system traveling through Meadowview will cause an increase in noise, crime, trash, loss of privacy, increased liability, etc. Marty Andrew stated that he feels bringing public equestrian trails through Meadowview will have a negative impact on property values. Connie Coriarty, 30535 Avenida Estrada, Temecula, suggested that the City should look at the Buie Development as an area for equestrian trails and park and not infringe on the Meadowview homeowners. PCMIN 10/19/92 -8- 11/30/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OCTOBER 19, 1992 Maria Hetzner, 40657 Carmelita Circle, Temecula, stated that the Meadowview homeowners do not want a public trail system, a four lane road and 8' buffer walls. John Meyer advised that staff received written letters opposing the trail system through Meadowview from Beverly and Mel Southward and Leroy and Peggy Starausley. Bill Campbell, 40620 Calle Madero, Temecula, stated that he feels the trail and four lane road will present safety problems in Meadowview. Commissioner Hoagland stated that he would support Section B. Establishment of Riding, Hiking, and Bicycle Trails, with the deletion of the last paragraph on Page 5-11 and the map that it refers to. Commissioner Ford suggested designating the trails on the map with the for bicycle and hiking with equestrian trails separated into compatible uses. Commissioner Hoagland reflected that he feels there has been no show of support for the trail system through Meadowview. Robert Righetti advised that if the City does not demonstrate how they can incorporate a circulation system, which decreases the amount of drive time, the City will eventually pay a very high price. Commissioner Chiniaeff stated that a more appropriate location for equestrian trails might be along the aqueducts. Lorraine Show, 40702 La Colima, Temecula, stated that she did not feel that the issue of whether or not a trail system should run through Meadowview should be discussed by the Commission because it is private property. It was the overall consensus of the Commission that staff provide language stating that trails do not have to be multi-purpose, but can be where feasible; that the maps not be specific in their presentation of the possible trail systems but reflect existing trails and support the Parks and Recreation Commission's design of the equestrian, bike and hiking trails. Commissioner Chiniaeff stated that he felt many of the issues under Conservation of Resources were regional issues. Commissioner Ford expressed many concerns as well. Commissioner Hoagland recommended that the Conservation of Resources be re- written to address the concerns expressed by the Commission. Commissioner Hoagland's recommendation was unanimously approved by the Commission. Chairman Fahey continued the public hearing to November 2, 1992. PCMIN10/19/92 -9- 11/30/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES PLANNING DIRECTOR REPORT OCTOBER 19, 1992 Gary Thornhill reported that staff held a meeting with the Old Town Steering Committee and discussed a preferred land use alternative for the downtown area and circulation issues. Mr. Thornhill advised that staff will present an update to the Council and offered a presentation to the Commission. The Commission expressed their desire to see the presentation. PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT None OTHER BUSINESS None ADJOURNMENT It was moved by Commissioner Hoagland, seconded by Commissioner Chiniaeff to adjourn at 10:30 P.M. The next regular meeting of the City of Temecula Planning Commission will be held November 2, 1992, 6:00 P.M., Vail Elementary School, 29915 Mira Loma Drive, Temecula, California. PCMIN 10/19/92 -10- 11/30/92