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Home My WebLink About051892 PC MinutesMINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA PLANNING COMMISSION MONDAY, MAY 18, 1992 A regular meeting of the City of Temecula Planning Commission was called to order Monday, May 18, 1992, 6:00 P.M., Vail Elementary School, 29915 Mira Loma Drive, Temecula, California, Chairman John E. Hoagland presiding. PRESENT: 3 ABSENT: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Ford, Hoagland COMMISSIONERS: Chiniaeff, Fahey Also present were Assistant City Attorney John Cavanaugh, Planning Director Gary Thornhill, Senior Planner Debbie Ubnoske, Associate Planner Saied Naaseh, Assistant Planner Matthew Fagan, and Minute Clerk Gail Zigler. PUBLIC COMMENT None COMMISSION BUSINESS APPROVAL OF AGENDA It was moved by Commissioner Blair, seconded by Commissioner Ford, to approve the agenda as mailed. The motion was carried unanimously with Commissioners Fahey and Chiniaeff absent. 2. MINUTES 2.2 Approve the minutes of May 4, 1992 Planning Commission meeting. Commissioner Ford requested the following revisions to the minutes of May 4, 1992: Page 6, amend first paragraph to read, "Commissioner Ford expressed concerns on the three projects as follows"; and after Planning Areas, reference Campos Verdes. Chairman Hoagland amended Page 2, Item No. 3 with the following statement, "This vacation would be in conformance with the expected General Plan because the original conditions were that the slopes be maintained by the Homeowners Association or by a community services district. PCMIN5/18/92 -1- 5/18/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MAY 18, 1992 It was moved by Commissioner Ford, seconded by Commissioner Blair to approve the minutes of May 4, 1992 as amended. The motion was carried as follows: AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Ford, Hoagland NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Chiniaeff, Fahey NON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS 3. TCSD COMMUNITY RECREATION CENTER 3.1 Proposal of schematic design of proposed Community Recreation Center at Rancho California Sports Park for the Commission's comments, Shawn Nelson summarized the staff report. Commissioner Fahey arrived at 6:10 P.M. Bob Mueting, project director with RJM Design Group, introduced the design team as follows: Kevin Sullivan, project designer, RJM Design Group Steve Kendrick, project architect, LPA Wendy Rogers, project architect, LPA Rich Valdez, project engineer, Ranpac Engineering Mr. Mueting provided project status and overview. Mr. Sullivan reviewed the site plan. Mr. Kendrick covered the floor plan and proposed uses. Ms. Rogers provided a slide presentation on the architectural design plan and Rich Valdez reviewed proiect engineering specifications. Commissioner Fahey questioned how the parking needs at the center are being addressed. Shawn Nelson stated that there is enough parking to meet the requirements of the CRC. However, additional parking will still be required along Margarita and Rancho Vista and at that back of the park near the soccer field off Margarita Road, in the future phases of developing Sports Park. Shawn added that the parking will be enhanced by effectively scheduling programs and activities. Commissioner Ford asked if the consultant was aware of proposed development plans for the hillside. PCMIN5/18/92 -2- 5/18/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MAY 18, 1992 Shawn Nelson stated that those plans were made available to RJM based on the SWAP designation. Therefore, the proposed grade of the recreation center was developed to mitigate drainage impacts associated with severe flooding. Mr. Nelson added that staff is currently awaiting an acoustical engineering study as it relates to the amphitheater to analyze its impact on surrounding residents. Chairman Hoagland declared a recess at 6:55 P.M. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 5 4.1 Proposal for color change to building roof and signs. Located on the west side of Front Street, North of lower Highway 79. Matthew Fagan presented the staff report. Lou Kashmere, 29115 Front Street, Temecula, applicant, concurred with the staff report. The Commission as a whole expressed their concurrence with staff recommendation. BEST WESTERN INN 5.1 Proposal for revision to block wall and associated landscaping. Located at 27706 Jefferson Avenue. Matthew Fagan presented the staff report. Bob Grina, 30305 Via Norte, Temecula, architect representing Best Western answered questions about the landscape design. Commissioner Ford asked if a sound study was performed to show whether a ten foot high or eight foot high wall would be appropriate. Matthew Fagan advised that no sound study had been done. Commissioner Ford stated that he did not see any substantiation for the ten foot high wall. Jack Wong, co-owner, stated that at the advice of CaI-Trans representatives, they submitted the request for a ten foot high wall to accomplish noise reduction. PCMIN5/18/92 -3- 5/18/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MAY 18, 1992 Commissioner Ford stated that he felt it would be more appropriate to design a six foot high wall and if the noise study required a higher wall, condition the project to build to the recommended height. Commissioner Blair asked the applicant if he would be willing to perform a sound study. Mr. Wong indicated that it would be very costly for him to have the study performed. Chairman Hoagland stated that the applicant has consulted with CaI-Trans and received their recommendation and has presented an acceptable landscape plan and therefore he would approve the applicant's request. Commissioner Fahey expressed her concurrence with Chairman Hoagland. Commissioner Ford and Commissioner Blair indicated that they would not be willing to approve the request without a sound study. Chairman Hoagland suggested that the Planning Director contact Commissioner Chiniaeff on an informal basis and make a decision based on the majority opinion. Commissioner Ford reiterated that he felt the approval of the height would be a precedent setting decision. PUBLIC HEARING VARIANCE NO. 11, PLOT PLAN 10605 REV. NO. 1 6.1 Proposal is a request to allow a gravel parking lot. Located at 41934 Main Street, Temecula. Saied Naaseh presented the staff report. Chairman Hoagland opened the public hearing at 7:25 P.M. Tony Terich, To-Mac Engineering, applicant, presented the Commission with a copy of a letter of acceptance for a gravel parking lot for a period of one year, from the Old Town Temecula Historical Review Board. Mr. Terich asked that if the Commission choose not to approve on a precedent setting basis, that they allow the applicant to use the gravel parking lot until a Specific Plan for Old Town has been adopted and if the Old Town Specific Plan does not allow gravel parking lots, then a one year period be granted for compliance. PCMIN5/18/92 -4- 5/18/92 PLANNING CO~BS~ON ~NUTEB I~Y 18, 1992 Commissioner Ford questioned Mr. Terich's argument for a gravel parking lot. Mr. Terich referred to ground water absorption, Chairman Hoagland questioned how oil and grease drippings from the cars would be kept from entering the water run-off. Mr. Terich stated that the parking lot would consist of three to four inches of gravel which could absorb the pollutants and then be removed and replaced. Chairman Hoagland stated that he would be opposed to the applicant's request for a permanent gravel parking lot. It was moved by Commissioner Fahey, seconded by Commissioner Blair to close the public hearing at 7:35 P.M. and Adopt Resolution No. 92-(nex'D ~ ~F~u~ution-l~lA .93q~rl) denying Plot Plan No. 10605, Amendment No. 1, Revised Permit No. 1 and Variance No. 11 based on the analysis and findings contained in the staff report. Commissioner Ford asked if there was a time that could be allowed so that the project is in total compliance with the permit. Doug Stewart advised that the Public Works department is the only department left to sign off and is at the Commissions discretion. John Cavanaugh suggested that the Commission give the applicant a reasonable period of time to pursue completion of the conditions from date of the recommendation. Commissioner Fahey amended her motion to direct staff to work with the applicant on a timely completion of the condition, Commissioner Blair concurring. The motion was carried as follows: AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Ford, Hoagland NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: I COMMISSIONERS: Chiniaeff Commissioner Blair added that she would not favor a one year period for completion; however, would be find six months more acceptable. PCMIN5/18/92 -5- 5/18/92 PLi~N[NG COHI~SS~ON H~NUTES I~Y ~8, L992 7. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 18 7.1 Proposal is a request to permit the sale of beer and wine at a Mobil Oil gas station, Rancho California Town Center, 29500 Rancho California Road, Temecula. Saied Naaseh presented the staff report. Chairman Hoagland opened the public hearing at 7:45 P.M. Ken Huper, 18634 Lankenshire Way, Los Angeles, representing Mobil Oil, advised the Commission that the gas station operates 24 hours per day; however, beer and wine sales would be limited to restricted hours by the ABC. Sidney Vernon, 30268 Mercy Court, Temecula, expressed his concerns with drinking and driving. Mr. Vernon added that he felt selling beer and wine at a gas station would encourage drinking and driving. Mr. Vernon also noted the location of the church across the street from the gas station. Ken Huper stated that Mobil Oil did not approve of drinking and driving, however the application is in conformance with the ordinance and there are other establishments within the city which currently sell beer and wine in addition to gasoline. The Commission as a whole expressed disapproval of the sale of alcohol at a gas station. John Cavanaugh reminded the Commission that the proposal is a C.U.P. and therefore the Commission would have to set forth specific findings, such as those that relate to health, safety and welfare. Commissioner Blair questioned the church location on Rancho California Road in regards to the request. Saied Naaseh advised that the ABC would not deny the request based on the location of the church; however, they would place stricter restrictions on the establishment. Gary Thornhill advised the Commission that had the request been located in a residential zone or near a freeway, staff would have recommended denial; however, because this is a built-out shopping center, staff did not feel that this request posed any conflicts. Mr. Thornhill added that the Commission may find that the location of the church, schools, freeway and the access into and out of this shopping center present a health, safety and welfare concern. PCMINS/18/92 -6- 6/18/92 PL~'qlqlN6 ¢O10~ISSION HINUTE$ IO.¥ ~8, L992 Chairman Hoagland stated that although he does not agree with the sale of alcoholic beverages at a gas station, this applicant has complied with all the existing ordinances and therefore it would be unfair to deny his request based upon personal opinion. John Cavanaugh added that since the applicant has complied with the ordinance, findings for denial based on health, safety and welfare would need to be made It was moved by Commissioner Ford, seconded by Commission Fahey to close the public hearing at 8:05 P.M. and Adopt Resolution No. 92- nJ_eJ~ denying Conditional Use Permit No. 18 and direct staff to prepare fin~l~.gs to substantiate the denial as follows: health and safety concerns as they re]ate to' the location, the proximity to the schools in the City of Temecula, the churc'b,r the freeway, and the specific intersection as people are driving out into a majoi*~.~ traffic area at that particular shopping center. AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Ford NOES: I COMMISSIONERS: Hoagland ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Chiniaeff PLANNING DIRECTOR REPORT Gary Thornhill reported the following: Administrative Secretary Linda Beaudoin has been promoted to Planning Technician. During the second week of May, a General Plan presentation will be made for Temecula Town Association and an Old Town Specific Plan presentation. Also an Old Town Specific Plan kick-off meeting will be held. The approval authority ordinance went before the City Council and they are supportive of giving more authority to staff. Chairman Hoagland stated that he would attend the City Council meeting to discuss the ordinance with the Council. PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION * Commissioner Blair expressed a concern for the City Councils desire to push proiects along quickly. PCMIN5/18/92 -7- 5/18/92 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MAY 18, 1992 Chairman Hoagland asked that staff bring the Commission up-to-date on pending items at the next meeting. OTHER BUSINESS None ADJOURNMENT It was moved by Commissioner Fahey, seconded by Commissioner Blair to adjourn at 8:20 P.M. The next regular meeting of the City of Temecula Planning Commission will be held Monday, June 1, 1992, 6:00 P.M., Vail Elementary School, 29915 Mira Loma Drive, Temecula, California. PCMIN5/18192 -8- 5/18/92