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Home My WebLink About110794 PC Minutes MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA PLANNING COMMISSION MONDAY, NOVEMBER 7, 1994 A regular meeting of the City of Temecula Planning Commission was called to order on Monday, November 7, 1994, at 6:02 P.M., at the Rancho California Water District Board Room, 42135 Winchester Road, Temecula, California. Chairman Steve Ford presiding. PRESENT: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Slaven, Webster and Ford ABSENT: I COMMISSIONERS: Fahey Also present were Planning Director Gary Thornhill, Assistant City Attorney Greg Diaz, Assistant Planner Craig Ruiz, Assistant Planner Matthew Fagan, Associate Planner Dave Hogan and Recording Secretary Barbara Maltby. PUBLIC COMMENT None COMMISSION BUSINESS 1. APDr0val of Agenda It was moved by Commissioner Blair and seconded by Commissioner Slaven to approve the agenda as presented. The motion carried as follows: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Slaven, Webster and Ford 0 COMMISSIONERS: None I COMMISSIONERS: Fahey AYES: NOES: ABSENT: Minutes 2.1 Minutes of July 18, 1994 Commissioner Blair commented that on Page 2, Item No. 4, should read: It was moved by Commissioner Fahey... Page 5, second from last paragraph, should read: Commissioners Fahey, $alyer, and Blair... Page 6, second paragraph, should read: Recommended individual noticing of residents of apartments be conducted. R:~Vlinut~s\ 110'794.PLN PLANNING COMMISSI~,N MINUTES November 7, 1994 · Commissioner Ford commented that on Page 6, third paragraph, should read: It was moved by Commissioner Hoagland to approve staff's recommendation, however, because of the need for further discussion Commission Hoagland withdrew his motion. It was moved by Commissioner Blair and seconded by Commissioner Slaven to approve the minutes of July 18, 1994 as amended. Page 8, third paragraph, second sentence, should read: reimbursement when improving property other than their own... The motion carried as follows: AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Slaven, Webster and Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: I COMMISSIONERS: Fahey 2.2 Minutes of August 1, 1994 It was moved by Commissioner Blair and seconded by Commissioner Slaven to approve the minutes of August 1, 1994 The mol~ion carried as follows: AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Slaven, Webster and Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Fahey 2.3 Minutes of September 19, 1994 It was moved by Commissioner Slaven and seconded by Commissioner Webster to approve the minutes of September 19, 1994 The motion carried as follows: AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Slaven, Webster and Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Fahey 3. Approval of July 28, 1994 Johnson Ranch Planning Commission Workshop Minutes It was moved by Commissioner Blair and seconded by Commissioner Slaven to approve the minutes of July 28, 1994 Johnson Ranch Planning Commission Workshop Minutes. R:LMinutes\ 110794.PLN 2 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES November 7. 1994 The motion carried as follows: AYES: 4 NOES: 0 ABSENT: I COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Slaven, Webster and Ford COMMISSIONERS: None COMMISSIONERS: Fahey 4. Director's Hearing Uodate Planning Director Thornhill presented the report which was received and filed. NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS 5. Plannine ADDlication No. PA94-0112 Assistant Planner Matthew Fagan presented the staff report. Commissioner Webster asked, in regards to the improvement plans C-45, what the heights of the two monument signs are. Mr. Fagan replied that they were limited by The Conditions of Approval to 6 feet. He also ask if the existing sign was to be relocated or removed completely? The question was referred to the applicant. Commissioner Blair asked the square footage of the exiting sign, Mr. Fagan replied it is the same as the proposed sign, 86 square feet. Commissioner Slaven asked if the new sign will be facing the same direction. Mr. Fagan replied that it would. She also asked if it will be taller than surrounding structures. Mr. Fagan informed her it would be. Commissioner Fahey arrived at 6:17 P.M. Robert Fiscus, 2050 South Santa Cruz, Anaheim, representing the applicant stated that the existing sign will be removed. The two monument signs, on site, will carry the price and brand. Commissioner Fahey asked if there are options other than posting increasingly higher signs to make them visible. The question was referred to the Planning Director, Gary Thornhill. He stated that staff has looked at the way other jurisdictions have treated these signs and that the other signs are outside of Caltrans right-of-way. He further stated that the City of Yorba Linda was contacted regarding one of their signs. They informed him that they were on private property. Commissioner Ford asked about the signs on Highway 78 in Escondido. Director Thornhill agreed to contact the City of Escondido to find out how they obtained approval of the signs. It was moved by Commissioner Blair and seconded by Commissioner Fahey to delay Item No. 5 until Director Thornhill reports back to the Commission the first meeting in December, 1994 on the method used by the City of Escondido to obtain approval for their signs along the freeway. R:~Vlinutes\ 110794.PLN 3 PLANNING COMMISSK, N MINUTES November 7. 1994 The motion carried as follows: AYES: 5 NOES: 0 ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Slaven, Webster and Ford COMMISSIONERS: None COMMISSIONERS: None PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS 6. Plannino Aoolication No. PA94-071 Craig D. Ruiz presented the staff report. Commissioner Slaven asked what guarantees are there that alcohol will not be sold at any of the facilities in the "Strip Mall". Assistant City Attorney Greg Diaz informed the Commission that the sale of alcohol is regulated by the state. He also stated the sale of alcohol is not a legitimate ground for denying a permit. It may be considered as an overall welfare standard but it may not be the only factor. Chairman Ford ask if certain businesses could be excluded. Assistant City Attorney Diaz said you would have to change the Zoning Code. Director Thornhill said the development code, neighborhood commercial designation, will be tighter in the future and would be binding when it is approved on this parcel. Commissioner Slaven ask when the development code would be reviewed. Director Thornhill said around February. AI Ogle, 7063 De Marigosal, Bonsall, California, representing the Applicant, stated that the project meets with all the requirements under the General Plan and City requirements and also meets with the zoning regulations. Commissioner Blair asked about plans for tenants in the site and the possibility of a convenience store. Mr. Ogle responded no convenience store would be included due to the close proximity of the school. He further stated that a Veterinarian, a beauty salon, a snack shop, and a dental group were tenant prospects. Commissioner Slaven asked if the owner of the property had any intention of cleaning it up. Mr. Ogle responded that ASAP has been contacted for a quote on clean up. Mr. Dave Gallagher, Temecula Valley Unified School District, 31350 Rancho Vista Road spoke in opposition to alcohol sale. Mr. David Farion, read a letter from Tad Scholcott in opposition of the project. Mr. Farion spoke on the issue of traffic. Mr. Arthur Zippoka, no address, spoke in opposition. Mr. Roger Couday, 31438 Santiago Road, Temecula, California, spoke in opposition. R:LMinut~,\110794.PLN 4 PLANNING COMMISSIc, N MINUTES November 7. 1994 Mr. Melvin Coplin, 31 286 Santiago Road, Temecula, California, spoke in opposition and asked if the zoning can be changed. Director Thornhill replied that the project is consistent with the General Plan and cannot be changed. Gail Hockster, 31249 Sierra Bonita, Temecula, California, spoke in opposition. also spoke concerning noise pollution, traffic, and the safety of small children walking to school. Chairman Ford asked how children would get to school if fencing is placed along the Eastern Municipal Water District easement line. She Grace Pelka, 43185 Margarita Road, (husband, Art spoke in her place), asked if the City could put a church or nursery, instead of a "Strip Mall" at this site. Chairman Ford read a letter from Darrel and Marsha Curley who was in opposition. Mr. Ogle, speaking in rebuttal, stated that an offer from a Service Station was turned down because the applicant wants to keep the area attractive. Chairman Ford closed the Public Hearing at 7:11 P.M. Commissioner Fahey stated that nothing has changed from the original package. Chairman Ford asked questions about stop lights, Assistant Engineer, John Pourkazemi responded that the capacity of Margarita road is Level of Service "A" and will be 110 feet full width which would include 4 travel lanes and bike lanes. He said Pala Road will be 88 feet, (4 lanes), which will also be Service Level "A". A signal is scheduled to be installed in 1995/1996whether the project goes in or not. Chairman Ford ask when the widening of Pala Road would take place. Mr. Pourkazemi responded that 1996/1997 is scheduled. Commissioner Webster asked how many extension of time are permitted. Director Thornhill responded that three, one-year extensions of time are all allowed and this is the second for the applicant. Commissioner Fahey commented that the enclosure did not include the full project plans and it would be helpful to the Planning Commission to review the package to be sure that it is consistent with the newly adopted General Plan. Commissioner Blair ask how much leeway on the extension of time the commission has. Director Thornhill stated that he would have to consult with the city attorney. Chairman Ford stated the full allotment of time was spent on the original project. It was moved by Commissioner Fahey and seconded by Commissioner Blair to obtain the full package of the project, to include the minutes, for the Commissions review and to continue the December 5, 1994 meeting. R:Wlinutes\110794.PLN 5 PLANNING COMMISSi~,N MINUTES November 7. 1994 The motion carried as follows: AYES: 5 NOES: 0 ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Slaven, Webster and Ford COMMISSIONERS: None COMMISSIONERS: None Recess Chairman Ford declared a recess at 7:40 P.M. The meeting was reconvened at 7:49 P.M. 7. School Mitigation ProQram Resolution Associate Planner David Hogan presented the staff report Commissioner Fahey asked if there is any way to protect the city if the school district does a poor job of managing funds and city development is impacted or slowed down due to a short fall of funds. Mr. Hogan responded that Section No. 2 of the resolution outlines which projects would be exempt. Commissioner Webster asked if a separate approval is required when the mitigation plan comes before the Planning Commission. Mr. Hogan stated the mitigation plan will come back to the Planning Commission for approval. Chairman Ford expressed concern that the Commission did not receive a copy of the County Resolution 93-131. Chairman Ford stated that he did not see a provision for an annual review. He further stated that there was no joint amendment clause, no recision, no suspension, no supersede clause or subsequent clause. City Attorney Diaz stated this is an agreement not a contract and these features are not normally necessary. Chairman Ford reiterated his concern and stated that the object was to structure an agreement between the City and School District for a common good, and an annual review should be included in the agreement. Mr. Diaz stated it could be added with no problem. Chairman Ford opened the public hearing at 8:09 P.M. David Gallagher, representative for Temecula Valley Unified School District (TVUCD) came before the Commission to answer any questions. Dennis Chiniaeff, Kemper Community Development, 27555 Ynez Road, Suite 202, Temecula, stated he wanted to work with the community and the School District to ensure facilities are in place. Phil Oberhandsley with Lorenz, Alhadeff, Cannon, and Rose representing Kemper Community Development, requested that the Commission defer action at this time, to a workshop to discuss the language to be used. R:~Vlinutes\110794.PLN 6 PLANNING COMMISSi~,N MINUTES November 7, 1994 Mr. Larry Markham, representing Johnson Machinery, requested a continuance until they have had time to review the document. Mr. Dave Gallagher stated that the mitigation plan requires the School District to pursue all avenues of funding. Commissioner Fahey asked Mr. Gallagher about the surrounding taxes for both new and old homes. Mr. Gallagher stated that the home pays for the schools. Commissioner Ford asked Mr. Gallagher if the School District would have a problem with a yearly review of the mitigation. Mr. Gallagher suggested a review on a project by project basis. Commissioner Ford ask if the District would be willing to forward a copy of the mitigation agreement. Mr. Gallagher responded that the City has a copy of the County agreement which is nearly identical. Chairman Ford closed the public hearing at 8:37 P.M. Commissioner Slaven ask if there is a notification requirement. Director Thornhill stated that the newspaper would be notified. It was moved by Commissioner Fahey and seconded Commissioner Blair to approve staff recommendation as follows: Establish a program to mitigate the impacts to local school facilities from new development. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 3 NOES: 2 ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, and Webster COMMISSIONERS: Ford and Slaven COMMISSIONERS: None 8. Plannine ADolication No. 94-0081 (Plot Plan) Assistant Planner, Matthew Fagan presented the staff report. Commissioner Webster ask if there is a proposed median at Jefferson Avenue and Front Street that would preclude a left hand turn coming out of the West entrance. Mr. Fagan stated that per the General Plan, Jefferson Avenue will require a raised median, however, this project will not be required to put it in. Chris Grant with The Allen Group, representing Federal Express, 12188 Waverly Downs Way, San Diego came before the Commission to answer any questions. Chairman Ford asked Mr. Grant if he accepts the Conditions of Approval. Mr. Grant stated he did. R:LMinut~s\110794.PLN 7 PLANNING COMMISSI~.,N MINUTES November 7, 1994 Commissioner Slaven asked to have the chain link fence, located in the back, replaced with wrought iron. Commissioner Blair also supported having wrought iron fence all the way around. Chairman Ford stated he feels chain link fencing in the back area is sufficient. The applicant stated that they put landscaping in to cover the chain link fence and although they would rather not put wrought iron fencing all the way around the property they, would consider it. It was moved by Commissioner Fahey and seconded by Chairman Ford (for discussion) to approve staff recommendation and approve Planning Application No. 94-0081 Discussion included what type of landscaping would cover the chain link fence. The motion carried as follows: Approve construction of a 25,556 square foot distribution facility. AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Slaven, Webster and Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None Vendor's Ordinance It was moved by Commissioner Fahey and seconded by Commissioner Slaven to continue Item No. 9 to the meeting of December 05, 1994. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, $1aven, Webster and Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None PLANNING DIRECTOR'S REPORT Director Thornhill reported the following: A Workshop is scheduled for the Old Town Project to be held at the Community Recreation Center, November 22, 1994 at 7:00 P.M. Consultants for the Nicholas Valley study have been selected. Recruitment for the Old Town Main Street Coordinator is in process. The Auto Mall Marque sign is being reconsidered at the request of the auto dealers. R:LMinutea\110794.PLN 8 PLANNING COMMISSi,_,N MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION Commissioner Blair ask if she could get materials to her sooner. OTHER BUSINESS None ADJOURNMENT Chairman Steve Ford declared the meeting adjourned at 9:45 P.M. The next regular meeting of the City of Temecula Planning Commission will be held on Monday, December 5, 1994, 6:00 P.M., at the Rancho California Water District Board Room, 42135 Winchester Road, Temecula, California. November 7, 1994 Secretary R:~Vlinutes\110794.PLN 9