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HomeMy WebLinkAbout052394 PC MinutesMINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA PLANNING COMMISSION MAY 23, 1994 A regular meeting of the City of Temecula Planning Commission was called to order on Monday, May 23, 1994, 6:05 P.M., at Vail Elementary School, 29915 Mira Loma Drive, Temecula, California. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Steve Ford. PRESENT: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Hoagland, Salyer, Ford ABSENT: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey Also present were Planning Director Gary Thornhill, Assistant City Attorney Mary Jo Shelton- Dutcher and Recording Secretary Gall Zigler. PUBLIC COMMENT None COMMISSION BUSINESS 1. Approval of A.qenda It was moved by Commissioner Hoagland, seconded by Commissioner Salyer to approve the agenda as mailed. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Hoagland, Salyer, Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey Minutes 2.1 Minutes of April 25, 1994. It was moved by Commissioner Hoagland, seconded by Commissioner Salyer to approve the minutes of April 25, 1994. Chairman Ford commented that on page 4, the vote should be corrected to read Ayes - 5. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Hoagland, Salyer, Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey R:'~PLANCOMMXM INUTES\ 1994\05-23-94.doc 1 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MAY 23, 1994 2.2 Minutes of May 2, 1994. It was moved by Commissioner Hoagland, seconded by Commissioner Salyer to approve the minutes of May 2, 1994. Chairman Ford corrected Page 2 to reflect the motion failed. He also recommended the following be added to Page 8, Planning Commission Discussion, ".....which will be changed to comply with the Old Town standards at the time funds are available under the Capital Improvement Program funding of Public Works". Director's Hearinq Update None Planninq Commission Meeting Location Chanqe from Vail Elementary SchoolI to Rancho California Water District's Board Room, 42135 Winchester Road Director Thornhill advised the Commission the June 6, 1994 Planning Commission will be held at the Rancho California Water District Board Room, 42135 Winchester Road, Temecula, California and monthly thereafter. Commissioners Blair and Fahey arrived at 6:10 P.M. Resolutions for Apprevinq Planninq Application No. 94-0035 - one (40) foot hi.qh freeway oriented siqn and one (12) twelve foot hiqh monument siqn for the Ynez Car Care Center Director Thornhill said staff was confused by the Commission's previous direction on this item. Commissioner Hoagland said his intention was that the 40 foot sign be rejected. Commissioner Blair said she also understood this was the direction. Director Thornhill advised the Commission the applicant is entitled to a freeway oriented sign and staff could recommend the maximum allowable height. Commissioner Fahey said the 40 foot high sign did not acheive any additional visibility, yet a much lower sign achieved visibility from ~he other direction. Director Thornhill asked the Commission if there was a height they would like staff to consider. Commissioner Blair said the lowest possible to achieve visibility. Commissioner Blair said she was also concerned with the number of names allowed on the monument sign along Ynez Road. It was moved by Commissioner Hoagland, seconded by Commissioner Fahey to adopt Resolution No. 94-12 approving Planning Application 94-0035 for a 12' high monument sign on Ynez Road based on the findings contained in the staff report. R:~LANCOMIVI~vlINUTES\ 1994\05-23 -94.doc 2 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MAY 2371994 The motion carried as follows: AYES: 5 NOES:0 ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Hoagland, Salyer, Ford COMMISSIONERS: None COMMISSIONERS: None it was moved by Commissioner Blair, seconded by Commissioner Fahey to adopt Resolution No. 94-13 approving Planning Application 94-0035 and direct staff to approve a freeway oriented sign, at a height which is appropriate with the balloon test results, to be located at the rear portion of the Ynez Car Care Center. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 3 NOES:2 ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Salyer COMMISSIONERS: Hoagland, Ford COMMISSIONERS: None Chairman Ford stated he voted in opposition because he feels freeway signage is not necessary. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS PA94-0028, Revised Plot Plan Proposal to expand showroom area and add two additional service bays. Located at the Norm Reeves Acura Dealership, 26799 Ynez Road, Temecula. Assistant Planner Craig Ruiz presented the staff report. Planner Ruiz advised Condition 9 will be amended to read "Colors and materials used shall conform substantially with those existing on site and as shown on Exhibit C". Chairman Ford opened the public hearing at 6:20 P.M. There being no requests to speak the public hearing was closed at 6:23 P.M. It was moved by Commissioner Blair, seconded by Commissioner Fahey to close the public hearing at 6:24 P.M. and Adopt Resolution No. 94-14 approving PA94-0028, Revised Plot Plan, and Approve Planning Application No. PA94-0028 revised Plot Plan, based on the analysis and findings contained in the staff report and subject to the Conditions of Approval. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Hoagland, Salyer, Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None R:~LANCOMM~vlINUTES\ 1994\05-23-94.doc 3 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MAY 23~ 1994 SiRn Ordinance Re,qulatin,q Temporary Si,qns Presented by Planner John Meyer. Chairman Ford opened the public hearing at 6:50 P.M. Bruce Sparks, owner of Whippersnapper Furniture, 27645 Jefferson #110, Temecula, asked the Commission to consider increasing the number of banners, in the provision for uniform banners, to two per business, for those businesses which may have two distinctive entrances. Mr. Sparks said he feels the banner size being proposed is too small and uneffective. Mr. Sparks stated he has not heard anyone from the public expressing their concerns regarding the banners. Jeannie Kearns, owner of Gently Used Furniture, expressed her opposition to the proposed ordinance. Director Thornhill said temporary signs are normally used for Grand Openings and special events, however, with the present economic conditions, people are putting up banners and leaving them up. The ordinance as proposed, is as liberal as staff could make it. Commissioner Hoagland said he feels the City Council has a clearer idea of what they would like to see in the ordinance. It was moved by Commissioner Hoagland, seconded by Commissioner Blair to close the public hearing at 7:15 P.M. and send this item forward to the City Council with no recommendation from the Planning Commission. The motion failed to carry with the following vote: AYES: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Hoagland NOES:3 COMMISSIONERS: Fahey, Salyer, Ford ABSENT: 0 . COMMISSIONERS: None Commissioner Blair said she believes there is a proliferation of signs in the City and the Commission has the right to make those decisions. Commissioner Salyer said he feels this is a public issue. Commissioner Salyer said he believes the public feels there is a proliferation of temporary signs. Commissioner Salyer said he hears that the business community wants almost any sign as long as it is neat and as many as necessary to assist the business, but he hasn't heard from the community and would like to know what they want to see. Commissioner Fahey said she disagrees with the recommendation to take no action. She said she believes the Commission should address what is requested of them and that the Commission may need to work on this more. Chairman Ford said he feels the Commission should send this item back to staff and look at the square footage as it relates to permanent signs. R:~PLANCOMM~MINUTES\ 1994\05-23 -94.doc 4 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MAY 23~ 1994 It was moved by Commissioner Fahey, seconded by Chairman Ford to continue this item and direct staff to look at a comparison of the temporary signs to the permanent sign ordinance and design some time frames for new businesses who could have business identification temporary signs that may be larger than what is being proposed and a time limit such as six months. Commissioner Hoagland said he feels staff time is being squandered on efforts that have gone over and over dealing with temporary signs. He said he believes asking staff to spend anymore time on this without specific direction from the Council, is a waste of time. The motion failed to carry as follows: AYES: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Fahey, Ford NOES:3 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Hoagland, Salyer ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None It was moved by Commissioner Salyer, seconded by Commissioner Hoagland to send back to the City Council the existing Temporary Sign Ordinance without revisions, which the Commission feels is adequate for the public's interest. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Hoagland, Salyer NOES:2 COMMISSIONERS: Fahey, Ford ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None Commissioner Fahey stated she does not believe the Commission has met the Council's direction or expectations by sending back the same proposal. Chairman Ford concurred. Chairman Ford declared a recess at 7:22 P.M. The meeting was reconvened at 7:29 P.M. Specific Plan No. 263 and Chanqe of Zone No. 5589 Proposal for a 1,375,000 square foot Commercial Core, 810,000 square feet of Office/Institutional and Mixed Use Residential with 298,000 square feet of retail with an accompanying Change of Zone request changing the zoning from R-R (Rural Residential) and A-2-20 (Heavy Agricultural 20 acre minimum lot size) to SP (Specific Plan). Located south of Winchester Road between Ynez Road and Margarita Road. Planner Debbie Ubnoske presented the staff report. Chairman Ford opened the public hearing at 7:48 P.M. Commissioner Hoagland excused himself from the meeting at 8:00 P.M. R:~PLANCOMMXMINUTES\ 1994\05-23-94.doc 5 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MAY 23~ 1994 Dennis Chiniaeff, Vice President of Kemper Development Company, 27555 Ynez Road, provided an overview of the project. Mr. Chiniaeff said he is not opposed to applying the infrastructure improvements to phased portions of the project. Mr. Chiniaeff said the developer does not intend to build a downtown Santa Monica. Commissioner Fahey asked how the applicant proposes to meet the village center concept. She said she is not as concerned with the regional concept as she is the village concept. Commissioner Fahey said she feels the Winchester overpass and the Margarita/Solano Way improvements should be complete prior to completion of this project. Brock Kilbourne, 29821 Via Olvera, Temecula, said he feels Specific Plan 263 and Specific Plan 1 should be considered together and also need to be considered in relationship to other developments. He said it is important to consider long term impacts. Mr. Kilbourne said he feel there is a traffic problem which he feels should be addressed. He said he feels it is important to consider the traffic problems before, rather than affer, the project is completed. He said he feels the developer should be environmentally considerate. Commissioner Fahey said she doesn't believe the proposal fits within the General Plan. She said if the Village Center concept is not appropriate, staff and the Commission needs a clearer outline of what does fit the project. Commissioner Fahey said she feels more work needs to be done on the phasing of the roads. Commissioner Blair said she agrees with Commissioner Fahey's comments. She asked Planning. Director Thornhill to explain the applicant's reluctance to make Planning Area One a Regional Center. Director Thornhill said there was a difference of opinion over what Planning Area One should be. The City has recognized the importance of Planning Areas 2 and 3 and Staff feels it is very important to reserve a small area that is central to this site, that would do more than the typical large retail user. It was moved by Commissioner Fahey, seconded by Commissioner Blair to continue this item to the meeting of June 6, 1994. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Salyer, Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Hoagland Specific Plan No. 1, Chanqe of Zone No. 5617 and Environmental Impact Report No. 348 Specific Plan proposing 206 Single-Family Residential units, 644 Multi-Family Residential Units, 13.5 acres of Commercial, approximately 5 acres of office, and 18.5 acres of Park and Retention with an accompanying Change of Zone request changing the zoning from R:~PLANCOMM~MINUTES\ 1994\05-23-94.doc 6 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MAY 2371994 R-R (Rural Residential) and A-2-20 (Heavy Agricultural, 20 acre minimum lot size) to SP (Specific Plan). South of Winchester Road and east of Margarita Road. Commissioner Fahey stepped down due to a conflict of interest. Planner Debbie Ubnoske presented the staff report. Chairman Ford opened the public hearing at 7:55 P.M. Dave Gallaher, representing the Temecula Unified S(~hool District, 31350 Rancho Vista Road, Temecula, California, advised the Commission a letter was sent from the school district identifying the impacts the project will have on the school district. Mr. Gallaher said the school district is asking that a mitigation agreement be entered into by the developer and the school district. He stated the agreement needs to be in place prior to approval of the Specific Plan. Brock Kilbourne stated his concerns as follows: traffic, phasing of the development, protecting and incorporating the natural environment (i.e., rolling hills, natural stream beds) into the project. Mr. Kilbourne expressed his support of the proposal. John Koran, 40645 La Colima Road, Temecula, expressed concern regarding the proposed grading of the project. Mr. Koran said he believes the Meadowview Homeowners Association will forward a letter supporting the project. Chairman Ford said he would like to see at least one of the two streets, Starling and Sanderling, Starling being more suitable, remain open to allow for access to the school. Chairman Ford asked staff to review the language on Page 5 under TCSD. He recommended adding the following language "...transfer to the City in fee. Further, any easements that would preclude the City using the property would also be eliminated". Chairman Ford said he is not satisfied with the language "overriding consideration" regarding the dam inundation study. Commissioner Salyer and Commissioner Blair agreed that access should be provided within the two developments if required by Public Works. it was moved by Commissioner Blair, seconded by Commissioner Salyer to close the public hearing and continue this item to the meeting of June 6, 1994, with the modifications regarding opening the roads. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Salyer, Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: I COMMISSIONERS: Hoagland ABSTAIN: I COMMISSIONERS: Fahey Assistant City Attorney Mary Jo Shelton-Dutcher advised the Commission that since there are only three members eligible to vote on this item, state law requires an R:~PLAN COMIVI~M 1N UTES\ 1994\05-23-94.doc 7 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MAY 2371994 affirmative vote by a majority of the Commission, which means it will require an affirmative vote by all three Commissioners. PLANNING DIRECTOR'S REPORT Director Thornhill asked that the Commission make an effort to have a minimum of three Commissioners in attendance at the June 6, 1994. Director Thornhill invited each of the Commissioners to review the Zev Buffman proposal for Old Town. PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION None OTHER BUSINESS None ADJOURNMENT Chairman Ford declared the meeting adjourned at 9:05 P.M. The next regular meeting of the City of Temecula Planning Commission will be held on Monday, June 6, 1994, 6:00 P.M. at the Rancho California Water District Board Room, 42135 Winchester Road, Temecula, California. Plann~n~--'~irector, Gary Thornhill R:~PLANCOMM~IINUTES\i 994\05 -23-94.doc 8