HomeMy WebLinkAbout110491 PC MinutesMINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
PLANNING COMMISSION
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 1991
A regular meeting of the City of Temecula Planning Commission was
called to order Monday, November 4, 1991, 6:00 P.M., at Vail
Elementary School, 29915 Mira Loma Drive, Temecula, California.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman John E. Hoagland.
PRESENT: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Ford,
Chiniaeff, Hoagland
ABSENT: 0
COMMISSIONERS: None
Also present were Assistant city Attorney John Cavanaugh, Director
of Planning Gary Thornhill, Senior Planner Debbie Ubnoske, Planner
Mark Rhoades, Deputy City Engineer Doug Stewart, Robert Righetti,
Department of Public Works, Gary King, Park Development
Coordinator, and Minute Clerk Gail Zigler.
PUBLIC COMMENT
None
COMMISSION BUSINESS
Approval of Agenda
CHAIRMAN HOAGLAND reviewed the agenda and advised that Items
4 and 5 are recommended for continuance by staff; however, the
public hearing would be opened on these two items.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR moved to approve the agenda, seconded by
COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF.
AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Ford,
Chiniaeff, Hoagland
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
2. Minutes
2.2 Approval of minutes of October 21, 1991 Planning
Commission Meeting as mailed.
COMMISSIONER FAHEY moved to delete second paragraph on
Page 7, first motion made by Commissioner Fahey, seconded
by COMMISSIONER FORD.
AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Ford,
Chiniaeff, Hoagland
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
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NON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE NO. 24/CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (CUP 13)
3.3
Proposal for tenant improvements of an existing structure
within the M-SC Zone for use as an indoor shooting range
with accompanying retail sales of firearms and
ammunition.
MARK RMOADES presented the staff report.
CHAIRMAN HOAGLAND opened the public hearing at 6:15 P.M.
JIM BRANSON, 42245 Sarah Way, Temecula, applicant, gave
the Commission a brief description of the proposed
facility and it's functions.
COMMISSIONER FANEY moved to direct staff to Approve
Substantial Conformance No. 24 subject to the Conditions
of Approval, seconded by COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF.
AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Ford,
Chiniaeff, Hoagland
NOES: 0
COMMISSIONERS: None
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
CHAIRMAN HOAGLAND requested that staff present the following two
items together:
4. EXTENSION OF TIME TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 22761
4.1
Proposal for second extension of time for a 50 lot
residential subdivision on 16.7 acres. Located on the
west side of Ynez Road, North of Pierce Lane.
5. EXTENSION OF TIME TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 22762
5.1
Proposal for second extension of time for an 80 lot
residential subdivision on 28 acres, Specific Plan 180.
Located on the west side of Terra Vista Road, South of
Ynez Road.
MARK RHOADES presented the staff report. Mr. Rhoades
advised that staff has requested a continuance to
December 16, 1991, to allow the applicant time to
complete the Engineering Department's erosion control
requirements.
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ROBERT RIGHETTI provided an update on the progress of
this project. Mr. Righetti advised that staff had met
with the applicant and their lender regarding finishing
the erosion control and construction of preliminary
drainage devices and that the lender has indicated that
they will agree to cooperate with the contractor to make
sure the funds are there to complete the work.
COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF asked if there were heavy rains
prior to the December 16, 1991 deadline, would there be
adequate erosion control in place.
ROBERT RIGHETTI indicated that currently there is not
adequate protection; however, staff feels that in lieu of
calling the bonds and having the City complete the work,
which would require some time, it is best to work with
the applicant and their lender. Mr. Righetti added that
if the erosion control is not complete prior to December
16, 1991, then staff will follow through with drawing on
the bond and recommend denial to the Planning Commission.
CHAIRMAN HOAGLAND opened the public hearing at 6:20 P.M.
LARRY SMITH, representing the applicant, Coleman Homes,
advised that the applicant is currently working with the
lender and joint venture partner to initiate the early
stages of the erosion control plan.
COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF asked if the applicant felt they
could get the improvements in place by December 16, 1991.
LARRY SMITH advised that portions of the plan include
completing the storm drain system; however, that will not
be in place, but the erosion control portion will be
complete.
The following individuals requested that the Commission
deny Second Extension of Time for Tentative Tract No.
22761 and Tentative Tract No. 22762 for reasons relating
to the developer's inability to resolve homeowner
concerns regarding unconstructed project amenities and
failure to provide for erosion control:
MIKE MARTELL, 43750 Buckeye Road, Temecula.
ROBERT LEDEE, 43738 Buckeye Road, Temecula.
ARLENE GRABAU, 43656 Buckeye Road, Temecula.
FRANK R~GUSA, 43682 Buckeye Road, Temecula.
GREG DAIGLE, 43692 Butternut Drive, Temecula.
STEVE GANZ, 44104 Quiet Meadow Road, Temecula.
ELEANOR SMITH, 43658 Buckeye Road, Temecula.
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MARK MCCORMICK, 29850 Gateview Court, Temecula.
DAVID CARR, 43660 Buckeye Drive, Temecula, presented the
Commission with photographs of property damage as a
result of the developers inability to follow through with
proper erosion control.
STEVE WILLIAMSON, 29840 Gateview Court, Temecula.
JEAN STIMER, 43659 Buckeye, Temecula, requested an
explanation of the continuance process.
SIDNEY KUTCHUK, 43863 Butternut, Temecula.
RICHARD COOK, 44065 Sheldon Court, Temecula.
LARRY SMITH stated that Coleman Homes understands that
continuing the map is contingent upon putting in place a
erosion control plan. He added that all the homeowners
that are present purchased from the Williams Company and
that Coleman Homes was not obligated to construct the
recreation center until the three hundredth home of
Rancho Highlands and that the homeowners have been
advised of this at previous Board meetings of the
Homeowner's Association. Mr. Smith added that the
Conditions of Approval of the Specific Plan stipulate
that the builder has the option of designating parks
facilities within the project either public or private.
GARY THORNHILL advised the Commission that the Specific
Plan stipulates that the park and recreation center be in
place prior to recordation of any sub-division in Phase
Three. Both of these tracts fall within Phase Three.
LARRY SMITH advised that there
Specific Plan that had been
staff.
was an amendment to the
provided to engineering
CHAIRMAN HOAGLAND requested that a copy be included in
the next agenda package on this item.
GARY THORNHILL gave a brief summary of the time extension
process.
COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF moved to continue Tentative Tract
No. 22761 and 22762 to the meeting of December 16, 1991,
seconded by COMMISSIONER FAHEY.
AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Ford,
Chiniaeff, Hoagland
NOES: 0
COMMISSIONERS: None
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CHAIRMAN HOAGLAND declared a recess at 7:00 P.M. The meeting
reconvened at 7:10 P.M.
6. PARCEL MAP 25139
6.6
Proposal to create 66 commercial/industrial parcels on a
97 acre site in the M-SC Zone. Located west of Diaz Road
and South of Cherry Street.
COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF stepped down due to a conflict of
interest.
DEBBIE UBNOSKE presented the staff report.
CHAIRMAN HOAGLAND advised that he had received a letter
from Murrieta's City Manager, requesting that the
Commission continue this item to allow their City time to
perform traffic studies.
CHAIRM~N HOAGLAND opened the public hearing at 7:15 P.M.
MAX URESOL, 9968 Hybrid Street, San Diego, representing
the applicant, indicated the applicant's concurrence with
the staff report; however, requested modification to
Condition 21, Line 3, adding "at the discretion of the
archeologist, a Native American be present".
COMMISSIONER FORD advised that he had met with the
applicant and reviewed the grading that he had questioned
during the previous hearing for this item. Mr. Ford
questioned staff whether some of the roads had been down
graded to 45 mph due to the road radius not being
standard.
DOUG STEWART stated that he was not aware that the design
specifications of the roads required a compromise in
speed volumes.
COMMISSIONER FORD also requested that staff condition the
applicant on the following:
1) That any oak trees lost as a result of development be
replaced at a 10:1 ratio.
2) Work with the map on an approximate 1230 elevation on
the base line topo.
3)
That staff work with the applicant to create right
in/right out only access at some of the driveways on
the circulation road.
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COMMISSIONER FORD moved to close the public hearing at
7:25 P.M. and recommend that the City Council Adopt the
Negative Declaration for Parcel Map No. 25139 and Adopt
Resolution No. 91- (next) approving Tentative Parcel Map
No. 25139 subject to the Conditions of Approval along
with the modifications to the Condition for the oak trees
as follows, "Prior to the issuance of grading permits,
applicant shall relocate and transplant all specimen oak
trees. A qualified arborist shall prepare a report
outlining the relocation and replanting procedures. In
the event the trees do not survive transplanting, the
applicant shall be required to replant ten 24" box oak
trees for every one lost", staff to work with map on the
1230 elevation on the base line topo, and condition added
by transportation department at the previous hearing as
follows, "Prior to recordation of the final map,
developer shall provide bus turnouts with pedestrian
entrance.", seconded by COMMISSIONER FAHEY, who
questioned the condition for right in/right out only
access on the circulation road. Commissioner Ford asked
for staff's comments.
ROBERT RIGHETTI stated that the applicant is required to
prepare a stripping plan that will be directed by the
transportation department and if the Commission wants
staff to keep that in mind, they can do that; however,
staff would hesitate to set specifics at this time. Mr.
Righetti added that staff is trying to incorporate shared
driveways.
MAX URESOL concurred with the changes to the
modifications to the conditions.
AYES: 4 COM}{ISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Ford,
Hoagland
NOES: 0
COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN:i COMMISSIONERS: Chiniaeff
PARCEL MAP 25408
7.7 Proposal to create 20 commercial/industrial parcels on a
36 acre site in the M-SC zone.
DEBBIE UBNOSKE presented the staff report.
COMMISSIONER FORD stated that he would recommend the same
modifications as previously stated on Item 6.
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CHAIRMAN HOAGLAND opened the public hearing at 7:30 P.M.
ED BEECH, 44601 Harvey Way, Hemet, representing the
applicant, concurred with the modifications to the
Conditions of Approval.
COMMISSIONER FORD moved to close the public hearing at
7:25 P.M. and recommend that the City Council Adopt the
Negative Declaration for Parcel Map No. 25408 and Adopt
Resolution No. 91- [next) approving Tentative Parcel Map
No. 25408 subject to the Conditions of Approval along
with the modifications to the Condition for the oak trees
as follows, "Prior to the issuance of grading permits,
applicant shall relocate and transplant all specimen oak
trees. A qualified arborist shall prepare a report
outlining the relocation and replanting procedures. In
the event the trees do not survive transplanting, the
applicant shall be required to replant ten 24" box oak
trees for every one lost", staff to work with map on the
1230 elevation on the base line topo, and condition added
by transportation department at the previous hearing as
follows, "Prior to recordation of the final map,
developer shall provide bus turnouts with pedestrian
entrances.". Seconded by COMMISSIONER FAHEY.
AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Ford,
Hoagland
NOES: 0
COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN:i COMMISSIONERS: Chiniaeff
CHAIRMAN HOAGLAND advised that he had received the letter
from the City of Murrieta requesting that the City of
Temecula Planning Commission continue their action on
these two items and although the Commission did not
postpone their action, it was not meant to mean that the
city of Temecula was going to ignore it's neighboring
communities to the North; however, this map has been in
process for quite some time and the letter from Murrieta
was rather open ended without any real definite time
frames for the completion of their traffic studies and
therefore the Planning Commission could not support any
further continuance. Chairman Hoagland added that the
action was a recommendation to the City Council.
CHAIRI~a~N HOAGLAND asked that staff present the following two items
together:
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8. VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 23372
8.8
Proposal for extension of time for a 66 Lot Condominium
and apartment subdivision. 469 dwelling units on 46.9
acres. Located north of Rancho California Road, westside
of Kaiser Parkway.
9. VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 23373
9.9 Proposal for extension of time for 348 condominium units
on 23.5 acres with an additional 7.5 acres of commercial.
MARK RHOADES presented the staff report and clarified
that the recommendation was for the first extension of
time.
COMMISSIONER FAHEY questioned approving the extension
without erosion control in place.
MARK RHOADES advised that the expiration date of the map
was November 8, 1991.
ROBERT RIGHETTI advised that the applicant is in a
financial situation with their lender which they are
currently working on; however, the first extension of
time needs to be acted upon simply to keep the map alive,
and staff wants to get it to City Council. He added that
staff has a number of issues that will be addressed with
the second extension of time, and this applicant will be
required to make improvements to Margarita, as well as
other issues, prior to recordation; however, at this
point staff wants the erosion control issues resolved,
but staff does not want to forward it to City Council
until the condition is satisfied.
COMMISSIONER FAHEY questioned if there was adequate park
land.
GARY KING advised that all the City could request at this
time was Quimby Fees; however, staff did offer the owners
the opportunity to offer land in lieu of the fees and the
applicant expressed their lack of interest, as well as,
staff received notification prior to the meeting, the
applicants opposition to paying the Quimby Fees.
COMMISSIONER FAHEY expressed a concern for approving this
extension without addressing staff's concerns that the
tract will have an impact on public health and safety,
which staff will bring forth with the request for a
second extension of time.
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MARK RHOADES advised that due to the time constraints
involved with the expiration, staff is trying to keep the
map alive to address these issues.
CHAIRMAN HOAGLAND opened the public hearing at 7:45 P.M.
CHARLES GILL, 600 B Street, Suite 1100, San Diego,
representing the Margarita Village Development Company.
In regards to the fees, Mr. Gill advised that the project
is part of a development agreement which stipulates
specific contractual obligations. The applicant is just
advising the Commission that they will continue to work
with the City on these fees.
In regards to the grading and implementation, Mr. Gill
stated that the applicant has indicated that the erosion
control and grading measures are starting to be
implemented; however, they are not sure if it will be
completed by November 8, 1991, but the Margarita Village
Development Company has received authorization from their
lender to spend the necessary funds to complete the work.
The following individuals requested that the Commission
deny First Extension of Time for VTT 23372 and VTT 23373
based on the changes to what was originally presented as
a retirement community, the proposed densities and the
impact those densities will have on traffic and schools
and the developer's inability to provide adequate erosion
control to date:
CARL ABBOTT, 31987 Vineyard, Temecula.
ANA BLANCO, 31748 Corte Tortosa, Temecula.
THOMAS BENTLEY, 41473 Zinfandel Avenue, Temecula.
RAPLH BROWNELL, 41487 Zinfandel Avenue, Temecula.
J.R. SHEKOSKI, 31999 Vineyard Avenue, Temecula.
WILLIAM BACCUS, 41571 Zinfandel Avenue, Temecula. Mr.
Baccus presented the Commission with a letter requesting
that the Commission deny the request and presented the
Commission with a petition.
MARY PHILLIPS, 41532 Chenin Blanc, Temecula.
MYRA GONSALVES, 41556 Zinfandel Avenue, Temecula.
STEVEN CURNOW, 41636 Chablis Court, Temecula.
C~AIG EVANS, 41390 Rue Jadot, Temecula.
TIM KILFOYLE, 41529 Zinfandel Avenue, Temecula.
MARTHA KARATT, 41752 Zinfandel Avenue, Temecula.
KEN CHRISTENSEN, 31903 Vineyard Avenue, Temecula.
The applicant's representative declined their opportunity
to rebut.
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COMMISSIONER FAHEY asked what the Commission's options
were in taking action on this item.
JOHN CAVANAUGH advised that the Commission could deny the
extension of time, approve the request for extension of
time or the Commission could conditionally approve the
extension. In relation to the park fees, the Development
Agreement is not clear on what is addressed with respect
to park fees; however, at this point, the City is taking
the position that those fees are appropriate, and the
City Council can listen to the applicant's argument
further and make their decision.
COMMISSIONER FAHEY questioned what findings the
Commission would have to make to deny based on a health
and safety issue.
JOHN CAVANAUGH advised that the denial would have to be
supported by specific findings or make the finding that
the proposed project is not likely to be consistent with
the future general plan based on these findings.
ROBERT RIGHETTI advised that if an extension of time is
applied for, the applicant has sixty days from the time
that the map would have expired to record the map under
the original Conditions of Approval. If they do not
record the map within sixty days, they must have that
extension of time in order to keep the map alive for
another year. He advised that this map does not have an
approved extension of time yet, and if it had been
approved it would be running out on November 8, 1991.
With the conditions this applicant has in front of them,
they will not be able to record the map in the sixty day
period. The applicant will have to get that second
extension of time and therefore the map will come before
the Commission again very quickly.
COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF moved to close the public hearing
at 8:45 P.M. and Adopt Resolution 91-(next) recommending
that the City Council ADDrove the First Extension of Time
for Vesting Tentative Tract No. 23372, contingent upon
the implementation of corrective grading and erosion
control measures to the satisfaction of the City Engineer
prior to the City Council approval, seconded by
COMMISSIONER FAHEY.
CHAIRMAN HOA~LAND questioned Item No. 4-C-6 on Page 8 of
the Resolution which states that the Planning Commission
makes the following finding, that Vesting Tentative Tract
Map 23372 is compatible with surrounding land uses, and
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stated that he had a problem accepting this.
COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF requested that his motion include
that Item No. 4-C-6 be deleted from the Resolution, with
concurrence by COMMISSIONER FA~EY.
AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Ford,
Chiniaeff, Hoagland
NOES: 0
COMMISSIONERS: None
COI~4ISSIONER CHINIAEFF moved to close the public hearing
at 8:45 P.M. and Adomt Resolution 91-(next) recommending
that the City Council ApProve the First Extension of Time
for Vesting Tentative Tract No. 23373, contingent upon
the implementation of corrective grading and erosion
control measures to the satisfaction of the City Engineer
prior to the City Council approval, and deleting Item
4-C-6 of the Resolution, seconded by COMMISSIONER FAHEY.
AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Ford,
Chiniaeff, Hoagland
NOES: 0
COMMISSIONERS: None
PLANNING DIRECTOR REPORT
GARY THORNHILL advised of the following:
* The City Council is requesting a joint meeting and asked for the
Commissioner's availability in late November or early December.
* Community General Plan workshops are on schedule.
* Permanent staffing has been filled, will be phasing out contract
staff in the next couple of weeks.
PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION
* COMMISSIONER FAHEY asked for a list of Planning Department
employees and their functions.
COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF expressed a concern that there is going
to be many more developments that have not provided adequate
erosion control to date.
OTHER BUSINESS
None
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ADJOURNMENT
COMMISSIONER FAHEY moved to adjourn at 9:00 P.M., seconded by
COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF. The next regular meeting of the Planning
Commission will be held on Monday, November 18, 1991, 6:00 P.M.,
Vail Elementary School, 29915 Mira Loma Drive, Temecula,
California.
Gary Thornhill, Director o~ Planning
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