HomeMy WebLinkAbout101402 OTLRB MinutesCALL TO ORDER
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE OLD TOWN TEMECULA
LOCAL REVIEW BOARD
OCTOBER 14, 2002
The Old Town Temecula Local Review Board convened in a regular meeting at 9:00 A.M., on
Monday, October 14, 2002, in the Main Conference Room of Temecula City Hall, 43200 Business
Park Drive, Temecula, California.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
PUBLIC COMMENTS
No comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. A.qenda
RECOMMENDATION:
Board Members Allen, Blair, and Chairman Harker.
Board Members Montgomery and Moore.
Director of Planning Ubnoske,
Development Processing Coordinator Noland,
Principal Planner Brown,
Associate Planner Rush,
Code Enforcement Officer Cole,
Redevelopment Director Meyer,
Redevelopment Management Analyst Hillberg,
Minute Clerk Hansen, and
Minute Clerk Ross.
1.1 Approve agenda of October 14, 2002.
MOTION: Board Member Blair moved to approve the agenda, as written. The motion was
seconded by Board Member Allen and voice vote reflected unanimous approval, with the
exception of Board Members Montgomery and Moore, who were absent.
2. Minutes
RECOMMENDATION:
2.1 Approve the minutes of September 9, 2002.
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MOTION: Board Member Blair moved to approve the minutes, as written. The motion was
seconded by Board Member Allen and voice vote reflected unanimous approval, with the
exception of Board Members Montgomery and Moore, who were absent.
BOARD BUSINESS
Planninq Application No. 02-0544 - A Development Plan to desiqn and construct a 3,293
square-foot expansion to the existinq Old Town Temecula Salon & Day Spa building located
41925 Third Street.
RECOMMENDATION:
3.1 Staff is requesting that the Old Town Local Review Board provide comments and
direction to address the previously stated concerns of staff for the proposed project.
Staff also requests that the Board recommend approval for Planning Application No. 02-
0544 and direct staff to work with the applicant on revising the west building elevations
and reviewing the revised exhibits.
Staff provided a brief overview of the application, emphasizing its concerns regarding:
· The proposed internally accessed glass elevator as to its period appropriateness.
The proposed west elevation and the need to wrap it around the west elevation in order
to make it aesthetically pleasing as per the Old Town Specific Plan.
· The possibility of exploring a different type of roofing other than the one proposed.
Staff further informed the Board that due to the size of the expansion, this application would go
before a Director's Hearing before its final approval.
In response to Chairman Harker's inquiry, Associate Planner Rush stated that the proposed
elevator would be included within the building (neither recessed nor protruding) and that the
entire parapet would be visible on the west elevation.
The Board indicated that it had no issue with the use of river rock around the base of the
building.
Mr. Hargiss, the applicant, relayed to the Board that it was his desire to create a distinctive
building - one that would attract tourists to the building as well as tourism for Old Town. The
applicant further stated that he was open to suggestions from the Board. The Board expressed
its concerns regarding the period appropriateness of the proposed glass elevator and the
unattractive visibility of an elevator shaft from the street. Several design elements for the
elevator were discussed in an effort to make the elevator more period appropriate such as an
antique open cage elevator, stained glass, and/or wood trim. However, the applicant indicated
that the cost of an exterior cage elevator would be prohibitive. Director of Planning Unboske
suggested the need to move away from the use of glass and explore other design possibilities.
Board Member Allen also suggested that the applicant explore the use of different color paint
and perhaps the use of stone.
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In response to Chairman Harker's inquiry, Associate Planner Rush replied that because of the
adjacent vacant lot and the prominence of the building, especially if traveling up Third Street, it
would be aesthetically desirable to have a break in the parapet on the west elevation, thereby,
avoiding a box look.
Replying to the Board's inquiry, Applicant Hargiss indicated that the stairway from the second
level would enter into the back patio area.
With regard to the landscaping, Chairman Harker recommended that although space was
limited, landscaping should be placed wherever possible.
Redevelopment Director Meyer expressed his concerns regarding the mixture of two
architectural styles in the proposed design, stating the location of the wainscoting was probably
higher than it needed to be, that the finish and detail of the wrought iron was important, and that
the design of the second floor indicated no windows.
In response to Redevelopment Director Meyer, Applicant Hargiss indicated that there are four
windows on the existing building (two on the front and one on each side near the front); and that
it would be his intention to duplicate the front windows on the second level of the building.
Further, as long as the exits on the second floor were the required distance apart, Board
Member Allen indicated it would not be a building and safety issue.
Board Member Allen supported the use of metal railings instead of wood that would deteriorate
and look not as aesthetically pleasing.
Revisiting the issue of the west facade and in response to Board Member Allen's inquiry,
Associate Planner Rush suggested for aesthetic purposes and in an effort to make the building
of a distinctive appearance, that the facade be wrapped around both the east and west
elevations, commented on the use of stone, and suggested the addition of a clock tower that
could be seen from Old Town Front Street which would also satisfy the applicant's need to
provide some distinction to the building.
In response to Board Member Allen's inquiry regarding future plans to build on the adjacent
vacant lot, Associate Planner Rush indicated that the owner of the vacant lot would also be
permitted to build to an elevation of 28 feet in height.
Simulating the building's front elevation and in an effort to create a distinctive appearance,
Board Member Allen suggested stair stepping the parapet on the west elevation.
Concerning the use of fire retardant asphalt shingles for the roofing material, the Board
indicated its approval.
MOTION: Board Member Allen moved that the Board approve the application subject to the
applicant working with staff as directed during the Board discussions. The motion was
seconded by Board Member Blair and voice vote reflected unanimous approval with the
exception of Board Members Montgomery and Moore who were absent.
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4. Planninq Application No. 02-0553 (Wall, Project and Hanqinq Siqns) - Proposal to install (1)
one wall siqn, (1) one proiectin.q si.qn and (1) one hanging si.qn located at 28602 Old Town
Front Street, Suite F.
RECOMMENDATION:
4.1 The improvements proposed in this application have been determined by staff to be
consistent with the Old Town Specific Plan as to size, materials and colors. Staff is
requesting that the Old Town Local Review Board review, provide comments and
approve this project.
Development Processing Coordinator Noland provided the Board with an overview of the staff
report indicating that staff has worked with the applicant on the current design, that signs were
within Code, and requested that the Board comment and approve the project.
Chairman Harker commented that he viewed the signs as attractive and within code.
MOTION: Board Member Blair moved that the Board approve the application as presented by
staff. The motion was seconded by Board Member Allen and voice vote reflected unanimous
approval with the exception of Board Members Montgomery and Moore who were absent.
5. Planninq Application No. 02-0556 (Fa(pade Improvement, New Paint) - Proposal to construct
a western fa(;ade and apply new paint to an existin.q commemial buildin.q in Old Town
Temecula located at 28500 Old Town Front Street.
RECOMMENDATION:
5.1 This application was received shortly before today's meeting of the Old Town Local
Review Board. In order to help the applicant move his project forward in a timely
manner, staff brought this item to the Board prior to conducting a full analysis. As a
result, it is requested that the Board review, provide comments and evaluate the
proposed fa~:ade improvement and paint colors for this building with the
recommendation that staff will further refine the specifics of this application prior to any
final approval.
Development Processing Coordinator Noland provided the Board with a brief staff report
indicating that the application was strictly for the facade improvement and choice of paint colors
for the building, and that the application would be brought to the Board at a later time for final
approval.
Larry Chelson, of Dunwell Construction, representing the applicant, forwarded a picture of the
proposed design to the Members of the Board.
In response to Board Member Allen's inquiry regarding the proposed design, Development
Processing Coordinator Noland indicated that the changes to the porch (installing roofing in a
corrugated metal material and changing the direction of the steps and handicapped ramp) would
be included in the facade improvement.
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With regard to proposed paint colors, Applicant Stampers indicated that he was in support of the
proposed colors (Copper Red or Quartersawn Oak, trimmed in white). Board Member Allen
supported the paint color with more brown tones and Redevelopment Director Meyer suggested
the more neutral pallet for the overall longevity of the building.
Referring to a current photo of the building, Board Member Allen disagreed that putting batts
over the gaps in the existing 8' to 10' vertical boards would mask the fact that the exterior is
wormwood or pecky cedar; he felt it would be fairly obvious. Both Board Member Allen and
Redevelopment Director Meyer recommended that the current siding (wormwood} be removed
and replaced with either new or well-conditioned used wood.
In reference to the proposed barn design and the Board's concerns, Redevelopment Director
Meyer stated:
That the Specific Plan encourages the removal of trailers, however, understood the
economic hardships;
That the Specific Plan doesn't address the barn design, questioning the historical
context of the barn design;
· That the barn design does have a "stage set" look;
That if the applicant were to reinvest in the trailer, the Redevelopment Agency would
have preferred that the applicant do it in a manner that was more consistent with the
Specifc Plan; and
That the applicant consider other detailing elements that could be applied that would
keep the building more in compliance with the Specific Plan.
In response to Chairman Harker's concerns of creating a cookie cutter appearance throughout
Old Town, Redevelopment Director Meyer indicated:
· That individuality could come in the form of foundation materials and paint details;
That there would be a certain degree of replication in the buildings, however, thought
that to be the desired result, i.e., the fire house building south of the Welty building; and
That a different style parapet and removing the barn detailing would bring the building
into compliance with the Specific Plan without a significant change in cost.
In response to Board Member Allen's question, Applicant Stampers indicated that he had
applied for facade improvement funds.
For Board Member Allen, Redevelopment Director Meyer stated that the City does offer a
development incentive program for removal of the trailer and that each application is reviewed
on a case-by-case basis.
Regarding the Board's concern about the "barn look" and the height and depth of the front
facade, the applicant indicated that he was agreeable to the recommendations of the Board and
that it was his desire to have an attractive building.
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MOTION: Board Member Blair moved to approve the application subject to the applicant
working with staff as directed during Board discussions. The motion was seconded by Board
Member Allen and voice vote reflected unanimous approval with the exception of Board
Member Montgomery and Moore who were absent.
6. Planninq Application No. 02-0555 (Siqn Program, New Paint, Reroof) - A siqn proqram, new
paint and reroof (Suite A Buildinq) for an existinq commercial complex in Old Town
Temecula (The Hitchinq Post) located at 28480 Old Town Front Street and 41973 Sixth
Street.
RECOMMENDATION:
6.1 The application was received shortly before today's meeting of the Old Town Local
Review Board. In order to help the applicant move his project forward in a timely
manner, staff brought this item to the Board prior to a full analysis. As a result, it is
requested that the Board review, provide comments and approve this sign program in
concept with the recommendation that staff will further refine the specifics of this
application prior to any final approval.
Development Processing Coordinator Noland presented the staff report indicating that the
application was received shortly before the Board meeting and requested that the Board review
the application, provide comments, and approve this sign program in concept with the
recommendation that staff further refine the specifics of the application prior to final approval.
The Applicant's representative, Mr. Brian Keefer, was present to address any questions
regarding the proposed signage. During the ensuing discussion, Mr. Keefer pointed out the
following:
That there will be actual stained glass in the corners of the "Victorian Rose" sign, and
that the rest of the sign will be hand-painted, solid wood with the background a white-
washed aged antique effect;
That the decorative black metal elements on each side of the monument sign were flat
curved metal and will be attached at the top and bottom; and
That the sign for 'q'he Loft" will be made of kiln-dried, solid wood, hand-carved and
polished, painted in 14K gold, hand-cut hammered and turned-aged copper, and that the
clock will be handmade, including the hands.
Development Processing Coordinator Noland requested that the Board give staff direction as to
the roofing materials and the paint. The Board indicated that it was supportive of the roofing
material that was provided as a sample as well as the choice of Downing Straw as the primary
color, with the trim done in Bark.
MOTION; Board Member Allen moved that the Board approve the sign program in concept, as
well as the roofing materials and paint colors with recommendation that staff further refine the
specifics of the application prior to approval. Board Member Blair seconded the motion and
voice vote reflected unanimous approval with the exception of Board Members Montgomery and
Moore who were absent.
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DIRECTOR OF PLANNING REPORT
Director of Planning Ubnoske conveyed that the revision of the Old Town Specific Plan is
proceeding and that it is anticipated that the document would be brought to the Board around
the first of the year.
DIRECTOR OF REDEVELOPMENT REPORT
Redevelopment Director Meyer relayed to the Board:
· That the Mercantile Building retrofit is proceeding;
· That for the theatre, first plan check with the City's Building and Safety Department, has
been completed and construction should start the first of the year; and
· That the Children's Museum will be opening in about six months and that the exhibits are
being fabricated off-site in San Diego.
BOARD MEMBER REPORTS - None.
ADJOURNMENT
At 10:55 a.m., Chairman Harker formally adjourned this meeting to Monday~ November 18~
2002~ at 9:00 a.m. in the Main Conference Room, City Hall, 43200 Business Park Drive,
Temecula, California 92589.
Chairman William Harker
Director of Planning Deb§ie Ubnoske
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