HomeMy WebLinkAbout091802 PC Minutes MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 18, 2002
CALL TO ORDER
The City of Temecula Planning Commission convened in a regular meeting at 6:00 P.M.,
on Wednesday, September 18, 2002, in the City Council Chambers of Temecula City
Hall, 43200 Business Park Drive, Temecula, California.
ALLEGIANCE
The audience was led in the Flag salute by Commissioner Guerriero.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Also Present:
PUBLIC COMMENTS
No comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1 Acienda
RECOMMENDATION:
Commissioners Guerriero, Mathewson Olhasso, Telesio,
and Chairman Chiniaeff.
None.
Director of Planning Ubnoske,
Assistant City Attorney Cudey,
Deputy Director of Public Works Parks
Development Services Administrator McCarthy,
Battalion Chief McBride,
Principal Planner Hazen,
Principal Planner Hogan,
Associate Planner Thornsley,
Assistant Planner Preisendanz, and
Minute Clerk Hansen.
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1.1 Approve the Agenda of September 18, 2002.
Minutes
RECOMMENDATION:
2.1 Approve Minutes from July 17, 2002.
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3 Director's Hearinq Case Update
RECOMMENDATION:
3.1 Approve the Director's Hearing Case Update for August 2002.
MOTION: Commissioner Olhasso moved to approve Consent Calendar Item Nos. 1-3.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Telesio and voice vote reflected approval
with the exception of Commissioner Guerriero who abstained from Item No. 2.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
4 Development Review Process, Debbie Ubnoske
Presenting an overview of the staff recommended revisions to the Development Review
Process, Director of Planning Ubnoske provided the following highlights:
· The task of analyzing the current Development Review Process;
That meetings from various agencies were held in order for staff to obtain
feedback regarding the review process;
· The efforts made to improve the timeframe associated with this process;
The plan to implement a Development Review Process for exempt projects (i.e.,
projects not requiring environmental review) which would take seven weeks in lieu
of the current 15-week process, noting that this plan would include the following:
The development of an appointment process for application submittals;
The goal to deem complete the application at the time of the appointment; and
The exploration of the concept of developing separate applications for each
type of permit;
· Relayed that a customer service survey was developed and implemented; and
That there has been consideration to create City CEQA Guidelines, which would
create additional exemptions.
For Commissioner Olhasso, Director of Planning Ubnoske noted that it was City po[icy to
return phone calls within 24 hours, advising that the Planning Department was
monitoring this procedure intradepartmentally; confirmed that numerous applicants
communicate back and forth with staff via e-mail; and noted that there was consideration
regarding allowing any applicant to follow a fast-track process (subject to applicant's
agreement to the submittal of data per a specified timeline).
In response to Chairman Chiniaeff, Director of Planning Ubnoske confirmed that if the
Development Guidelines became part of the Development Code some flexibility would
be lost; and noted hopes that the City Council would support the concept of forming a
Subcommittee to biannually review the status of the applications.
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For Commissioner Mathewson, Director of Planning Ubnoske noted that the revised
shodened timeframe for processing projects encompassed the time from the application
submittal to the time the project was brought forward to the Planning Commission or a
Director's Hearing; and relayed that a timeline was not developed for projects requiring
Environmental Impact Reports (EIRs) due to the variables associated with such.
It is noted that the Planning Commission received and filed this report.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
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Appeal of PA01-0601 Unmanned Telecommunication Facility consisting of replacing
two existing golf ball nettinq wood poles with two metal poles, which will contain the
antennas located on the nodheast corner of Rancho California Road and Marqarita
Road in Temeku Hills Golf Course, Planninq Area 46 of the Margarita Villaqe
Specific Plan 199. Rolfe Preisendanz, Assistant Planner.
RECOMMENDATION:
5.1 Requesting a continuance to October 2, 2002
Assistant Planner Preisendanz presented the staff report (of record), noting that this item
had been continued from the August 2, 2002 Planning Commission meeting in order for
the applicant to provide additional data; relayed that staff received an additional letter
from a homeowner who was opposed to the project which was provided to the Planning
Commission supplementarily; specified the additional information the applicant has
provided, presenting the sample materials for the poles; requested input from the
Planning Commission regarding whether the site analysis data the applicant provided
was adequate and whether an outside consultant should be hired to provide additional
information regarding the project; and relayed staff's recommendation to continue this
item to the October 2, 2002 meeting.
Mr. Marc Myers, representing the applicant, noted that while the applicant would prefer
approval of the project at tonight's hearing that the applicant would agree to the
continuance; and clarified that all of the information that the applicant had submitted to
staff had not been provided to the Planning Commission.
Addressing the queries of the Planning Commission, Mr. Myers noted the following: for
Commissioner Guerriero, provided additional information regarding the pole materials,
advising that the applicant would be willing to either have an artist paint the steel poles
to resemble wood telephone poles or to add telephone pole cladding as per provided
sample materials; for Commissioners Mathewson and Telesio, confirmed that staff has
not had an opportunity to review the cladding sample material; confirmed that the
photograph depicted a pole covered with the cladding material; for Chairman Chiniaeff,
advised that the poles were warranted via the manufacturer; in response to
Commissioner Olhasso, relayed that to the best of his understanding the Burger King
parcel was part of the Palamar Shopping Center and under one ownership (Director of
Planning Ubnoske noting that staff could obtain additional information regarding this
matter); and for Commissioner Mathewson, advised that the actual wood poles vary in
diameter from 11 inches to 15 inches, and the applicant would be installing comparable
poles.
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For the record, Chairman Chiniaeff noted the Planning Commission's receipt of a letter
written by Mr. Bill Miller, outlining his concerns regarding the project.
The following individuals spoke in opposition to the project:
o Mr. John Shablow 30791 Links Court
~ Mr. Bill Miller 30743 Links Court
[] Mr. Harold Ritter 30725 Links Court
The above-mentioned individuals were opposed to the project for the following reasons:
,/ Opined that this location was solely chosen due to the lower lease prices at this site;
,/ That approving this project would set a precedent in the City;
,/ Noted concerns regarding the health issues associated with this installation;
¢' Queried the focus of the Planning Commission regarding the camouflaging of the
facility;
,,' Opined that telecommunications facilities should not be placed in residential areas;
,/ That this facility should co-locate at an alternate site (i.e., at the water tower site);
and
v' Requested that there be review of all the recorded statements of the applicant, and
in particular the earliest hearings.
Providing rebuttal, Mr. Marc Myers, relayed the following information:
· Referencing alternate telecommunication facilities which he represented and were
recently approved by the Planning Commission, noted that he thought that this
project would have been more readily approved since there would be no significant
net change to the existing environment;
· With respect to concerns expressed regarding the location of a commercial use
proximate to a residential area, clarified that there was an existing gas station which
was significantly closer to the residents than this facility would be, noting that this
project was far less intrusive;
Relayed that this project would provide a benefit to the community due to the
improved cellular service;
That the project was stealth;
That he could provide more specific information regarding the Burger King parcel, if
needed; referencing the ownership list of the numerous parcels in the Palomar
Village Shopping Center, relayed that in general the majority of the parcels were
owned by the center; and
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· Relayed hopes that the project would be approved, while offering to bring back
additional information if that was the Planning Commission's desire.
Chairman Chiniaeff requested that staff provide the Planning Commission all the
information the applicant had submitted to staff including the technical study; and noted
the importance of determining whether there was an alternate location that would work
from a technical standpoint.
Commissioner Olhasso clarified that she desired to see documentation regarding
contact the applicant has had with the owners of the Burger King use regarding locating
the facility at that location, or technical information regarding the rationale for this site not
being feasible for the facility to be effective.
Additional discussion ensued regarding whether a consultant should be hired to provide
additional information to the Planning Commission.
Chairman Chiniaeff noted that if the Burger King owner was not willing to lease to the
applicant there would be no need of further documentation, which was echoed by
Commissioner Telesio; and queried whether this facility could be co-located at an
alternate site and provide the same coverage.
Commissioner Telesio advised that the only two issues in question were, as follows: 1 )
Whether this site was appropriate for this facility, and 2) If the site was not appropriate
what alternate locations would be feasible for installation of the facility.
Chairman Chiniaeff advised that the golf course was a commercial use and not a
residential use.
Assistant City Attorney Cudey provided additional information regarding the golf course
being a commercial use.
Concurring with Chairman Chiniaeff, Commissioner Mathewson noted the far reaching
impacts in alternate developments, i.e., Specific Plan Projects, if all areas in a Master
Planned Community were to be considered residential; concurred with Commissioner
Telesio, noting that if the applicant could provide documentation regarding the refusal of
property owners to permit the facility to be located on their parcels there would be no
reason for additional study information regarding the sites.
Commissioner Telesio relayed that if the alternate sites, i.e., the Burger King parcel,
cited by the Planning Commission were not available to the applicant, the Planning
Commission would need to review this project as a facility proposed to be instalIed on a
commercial site, and not a residential one.
Relaying the applicant's responsibilities, Commissioner Guerriero opined that the
applicant should provide documentation demonstrating that this was the only site
feasible for installation of the facility; for informational purposes, noted that if the facility
were to be located at this site, it was vital that the installation be stealth which was one
of the issues the law permitted the Planning Commission to address with this type of
facility; and relayed that he preferred the cladding material to the painted pole sample.
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Additional discussion ensued regarding what encompassed the responsibilities of the
applicant with respect to investigating alternate sites.
Assistant City Attorney Curley provided additional information regarding the Findings the
City Code imposes on the Planning Commission regarding this type of proposed project,
as well as information regarding the extent of the responsibility of the applicant with
respect to investigating sites, and the subsequent review of that information by staff.
Offering clarification, Commissioner OIhasso reiterated that she desired to have
information regarding the Burger King site prior to determining if the site analysis was
complete.
Referencing the applicant's data, Director of Planning Ubnoske queried the Planning
Commission as to the breadth of information desired regarding the site analysis.
It was the consensus of the Planning Commission to not require the hiring of a specialty
consultant regarding this project's analysis.
Director of Planning Ubnoske relayed that staff would also provide additional information
regarding the associated ordinance and the findings necessary for action at the next
hearing.
MOTION: Commissioner Guerriero moved to continue this item to the October 2, 2002
Planning Commission meeting in order for the applicant to bring additional information
regarding the feasibility of installing the facility at the Burger King site, and for staff to
analyze the cladding material that the applicant had provided at this hearing. The motion
was seconded by Commissioner Olhasso and voice vote reflected unanimous approval.
For Mr. Myers, Commissioner Olhasso noted that a letter from the properly owner of the
Burger King use reflecting the refusal of the property owner to permit the facility to be
located on their parcel would be adequate documentation.
Mr. Myers requested that staff provide to the Planning Commission at the October 2,
2002, meeting all the project data that the applicant had submitted.
6 Planninq Application No. PA02-0236 A Development Plan / Product Review for
detached sin.qle family residences within Planninq Area No. 7 of the Harveston
Specific Plan located south of Oak Street, west of Marqarita Road, between
Harveston School Road and Maior Entry off of Oak Street, Assessor's Parcel No.
916-160-004 and 916-170-011, Tentative Tract Map 29928-2 and 29928-3. Rolfe
Preisendanz, Assistant Planner.
RECOMMENDATION:
6.1 Adopt a Notice of Exemption for Planning Application(s) No. 02-0236
(Development Plan / Product Review) based on the Determination of
Consistency with a project for which an Environmental Impact Report (EIR) was
previously certified pursuant to CEQA Guidelines Section 15162 - Subsequent
EIR's and Negative Declarations.
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6.2 Adopt a Resolution entitled:
PC RESOLUTION NO. 2002-036
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA APPROVING PLANNING
APPLICATION NO. 02-0236 - A DEVELOPMENT PLAN /
PRODUCT REVIEW FOR DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENCES WITHIN PLANNING AREA 7 OF THE
HARVESTON SPECIFIC PLAN LOCATED SOUTH OF
OAK STREET, WEST OF MARGARITA ROAD,
BETVVEEN HARVESTON SCHOOL ROAD AND MAJOR
ENTRY OFF OF OAK STREET, KNOWN AS
ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NO. APN 916-160-004, 916-180-
008, 916-170-011 AND 916-170-007 TENTATIVE TRACT
MAP 29928-1 AND 29928.
Assistant Planner Preisendanz introduced Mr. Bill Storm, the applicant's representative
who would present the revisions to the proposal that the applicant has implemented in
response to the recommendations of the Planning Commission.
Mr. Storm introduced Mr. M. J. Knitter, the principal designer for the project, and Mr.
Matthew Fagan, who, via overheads, presented the proposed products for the Harveston
Development, noting the following:
· That a Tuscan style had been added to the products, specifically introduced in Plan
lA and Plan 3;
· That the Colonial style was eliminated in Plan lA due to its similarity to the
Farmhouse style;
· That the American Farmhouse style was simplified to provide a more authentic
product;
· That stonework was added to the East Coast Traditional style to add elegance;
· That all of the elevations in Plan 2 remained without revision;
That in Plan 3 the Colonial style was also eliminated, and that a Tuscan elevation
had been added in this plan; and
That on the American Farm House style (in Plan 3B) the porch had been extended, a
column had been added, the roof had been extended, and the form element had
been simplified.
Relaying kudos to the representatives of Harveston, Commissioner Olhasso noted that
the presented product was wonderful and would serve in upgrading the community; and
applauded the authentic architectural styles.
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MOTION: Commissioner Olhasso moved to close the public hearing; and to approve
staff's recommendation. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Guerriero and
voice vote reflected unanimous approval.
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Planninq Application No. PA02-0217 Development AC:lreement with Advanced
Cardiovascular Systems, Inc. a subsidiary of The Guidant Corporation, Dave
Hogan, Principal Planner
RECOMMENDATION:
7.1 Requesting a continuance to October 2, 2002.
MOTION: Commissioner Guerriero moved to continue this item to the October 2, 2002
Planning Commission meeting. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Mathewson
and voice vote reflected unanimous approval.
8 Planninq Application No. PA02-0355 A Substantial Conformance request to amend
the Desiqn Guidelines of the Crowne Hill subdivision for Vested Tract Map No.'s
23143-5 throuqh -12 and approval of the Conceptual Landscape Plan alonq Pauba
Road, east of Butterfield Stage Road and south of Pauba Road, Thomas Thornsley,
Associate Planner
RECOMMENDATION:
8.1 Adopt a Notice of Exemption for Planning Application No. 02-0355 (Substantial
Conformance) based on the Determination of Consistency with a project for
which an Environmental Impact Report (EIR) was previously certified pursuant
to CEQA Guidelines Section 15162 - Subsequent EIR's and Negative
Declarations.
8.2 Adopt a Resolution entitled:
PC RESOLUTION NO. 2002-037
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA APPROVING PLANNING
APPLICATION NO. 02-0355 A SUBSTANTIAL
CONFORMANCE REQUEST TO AMEND THE DESIGN
GUIDELINES OF THE CROWNE HILL SUBDIVISION
FOR VESTED TRACT MAP NOS. 23143-5 THROUGH -
12 AND APPROVAL OF THE CONCEPTUAL
LANDSCAPE PLAN ALONG PAUBA ROAD, LOCATED
EAST OF BUTTERFIELD STAGE ROAD AND SOUTH
OF PAUBA ROAD.
Providing clarification at the request of Commissioner Guerriero, Director of Planning
Ubnoske relayed that this proposal was before the Planning Commission due to the
applicant requesting a change in the Design Guidelines. Principal Planner Hazen
additionally noted that the second part of this padicular application was for the Planning
Commission to review the conceptual landscape plan alon9 Pauba Road.
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The Planning Commission determined to address the landscaping portion of the
application first.
Staff presented the proposal
Via overhead maps, Associate Planner Thornsley presented the proposed landscape
plan along Pauba Road; read into the record Condition No. 52, regarding the project's
landscape requirements at the time of project approval; and for Chairman Chiniaeff,
confirmed that the condition subjected the applicant to install native landscaping.
The applicant provided an overview of the proiect
Via exhibits, Mr. Bob Diehl, representing the applicant, relayed that proposals presented
tonight were conceptual; noted the efforts of the applicant to implement into the
landscape plan elements to address the residents' concerns, highlighting the proposed
slope plantings, the public park site, and the proposed hydroseeding; for Chairman
Chiniaeff, specified the location of the eroded section of the slope which would be
graded, irrigated, and landscaped; relayed that the plant palette would encompass 30 to
40 varying types of trees; highlighted the proposed hydroseeded areas, and the storm
drain area, specifying the function of this drain which would drain back toward the south
east; and confirmed that the applicant had not finalized the landscape plans at this time,
confirming that the applicant would comply with the conditions.
For clarification, Principal Planner Hazen noted staff's intent to have the applicant bring
the landscape plan forward to the Ptanning Commission while still in conceptual form
due to the numerous residents who were concerned regarding this project; and advised
that it was staff's recommendation that the public comments be relayed to the Planning
Commission and the applicant prior to the plan being finalized.
In response to Commissioner Guerriero, Mr. Diehl noted the applicant's intent to
incorporate a transition into the landscaping at the eastern podion of the project.
The public was invited to speak
The following individuals spoke in opposition to the project:
Ms. Pamela Voit
Ms. Debbie Luzuriaga
Ms. Linda Mackie
Mr. Roger Jaeger
Mr. John Wayland
Mr. John Lewis
Mr. Joe McCormack
Mr. Seamrs McDonald
Mr. Dave Crone
38770 Sky Canyon Drive, #B
42075 Calle Barbona
33354 Pauba Road
41325 Billy Joe Lane
33342 Pauba Road
33560 Linda Rosen Road
41162 Mesa Robles Circle
41101 Mesa Robles Circle
41485 Via Del Monte
Murdeta
The above-mentioned individuals were opposed to the project, expressing the following
comments:
Thanked staff, and the applicant for their efforts to address the concerns of the
residents;
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· / Submitted a petition with 26 signatures of property owners in the Country Road
Estates who were opposed to the project, as well as a letter dated September 18,
2002, from the Country Road Estates Homeowners Association (HCA) which
outlined the concerns of the HCA;
v' That when the landscape conditions were imposed on the project, the area had been
more rural;
,/ That while Condition No. 52 requires the applicant to landscape, the applicant's plan
denoted that the native vegetation would remain;
v' Presented photographs depicting the type of landscaping desired;
· / That natural landscaping would not be sufficient for erosion control and would cause
an eyesore, as well as creating a fire hazard;
v' That the homeowners in the Country Estates HCA were required to spend a
minimum of two percent (2%) of the market value of their homes on landscaping
within two years of the house's completion;
v' Concern regarding the lack of available on-street parking;
," Queried why the developer was permitted to fence off public property, and permitted
to use private property for access without compensation to the property owners;
v' That the grading would cause flooding;
,,' That the subdivision rules for both the County and the City of Temecula require full-
street improvements and permanent landscaping of the slope for erosion and
beautification purposes;
,,' The proposed drainage plan which would negatively impact the neighboring
properties;
Requested that this item be continued in order to the applicant to provide specificity
with respect to the landscape plan;
v' Noted concern regarding the aesthetics and health hazards associated with the
retention basin;
· "Concern regarding the speeds of vehicles on Pauba Road, recommending that the
speed limit be enforced;
· "Concern regarding the proposed ingress and egress for the park, and the negative
visibility impacts;
· " Relayed opposition to the installation of 3-story homes;
· / Noted that per discussions with Deputy City Manager Thornhill and Director of
Planning Ubnoske in 1992, it was the intent that the language of the condition
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provide flexibility for the Planning Director, the HOA, and the developer to come to
an agreement when the landscape would be installed;
Relayed a summary of conversations held in 1992 regarding the expectation for
landscaping in this area;
In response to Chairman Chiniaeff, Ms. Voit confirmed that the conditions solely require
the applicant to install temporary irrigation, and that when that irrigation was removed
the landscaping would most likely die; advised that it was the Country Road Estates
HOA's desire that the landscape requirements be revised in order to not devalue the
area; for Commissioner Olhasso, provided additional information regarding the County's
beautification program; and for Commissioner Telesio, noted that the project was
conditioned in 1992.
For Commissioner Mathewson, Ms. Luzuriaga confirmed that the County, the City, and
her Real Estate agent told her when she purchased her property that the slope area
would be landscaped.
For the record, Minute Clerk Hansen noted receipt of a letter submitted at this hearing
(i.e., September 18, 2002) written by Mr. Ernie G. Meth, outlining his concerns regarding
the project, specifically the landscape plan with no irrigation along Pauba Road, the
implementation of 3-story buildings along Pauba Road and/or Via Del Monte, and the
dangers associated with the drainage ditch that has been constructed adjacent to Pauba
Road and Via Del Monte.
At 8:03 P.M. the meeting recessed, reconvening at 8:12 P.M.
For clarification, Director of Planning Ubnoske relayed that it was not the intent of staff to
bring this item back to the Planning Commission, advising that the project was
conditioned to have these items approved at a staff level and that staff was seeking
Planning Commission input.
Addressinq landscapinq issues associated with this proiect the Planninq Commission
offered the followinq comments:
In light of the size and quality of the project, Commissioner Olhasso relayed that she
expected the landscape plan to be commensurate with the landscaping on the
projects located to the south and west of the project.
Commissioner Telesio relayed hopes that the applicant would work with the
residents to come to a compromise, recommending that staff be involved in these
discussions; and urged the community to diligently work with the developer since the
project had minimal landscape requirements per the conditions due to the desire at
the time of conditioning for the area to remain rural;
· Commissioner Guerriero urged the residents and the developer to work together with
staff to address the landscaping;
· Concurring with previous Planning Commission comments, Commissioner
Mathewson relayed assurance that staff would work diligently to resolve these
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issues, noting hopes that the developer would go the extra mile to be a good
neighbor;
Referencing Condition Nos. 52 and 54, Chairman Chiniaeff relayed that the intent at
the time of approval of the project was to preserve the natural state of the area;
advised that the retention basin was conditioned to be placed in this project;
questioned the need for the proposed equestrian trail due to the lack of connectivity,
recommending that the trail be eliminated and that the monies from the horse trail be
added to the landscaping; with respect to the concern regarding placement of 3-story
homes on top of the slope area, recommended that trees be placed in this area to
reduce the negative ridgeline appearance; and noted for the public that when a
developer grades and disturbs, re-vegetation was be required.
At this time the Planning Commission considered the portion of the proposal
regarding the revisions to the elevations.
Staff provided a brief overview of the proiect
Associate Planner Thornsley presented a brief overview of the staff report (or record); for
Commissioner Olhasso, relayed that the parks had already been designed and had been
previously reviewed and approved; and noted that the City did not require that a pool
facility be implemented and the developer had no desire to do so.
The applicant presented the proiect
Mr. Bob Diehl, representing the applicant, noted that there was another developer (e.g.,
KB Homes) involved in the project at this time, and introduced Mr. Barry Burnell who
would provide the presentation; in response to Commissioner Olhasso' queries as to
why no pool facility was proposed in this project, noted that since the developer was
entering an existing established community, that the homes offered were designed for
move-up buyers, and that the product would be offered on large lots (which were
adequate size for homeowners to install their own pool), it was determined that to keep
the HOA fees down, a pool facility would not be implemented.
By way of overheads, Mr. Barry Burnell as well as Mr. Diehl, representatives of the
applicant, presented the following information regarding the proposed revised Design
Guidelines:
A visual of a created streetscene;
· Specified the elevations on the lot site plan which would have enhanced articulation
due to being visible to the public;
For Commissioner Telesio, noted that the lot sizes would vary, that there would be a
mix of one- and two-story dwellings, and that there would be oppodunities for a
three-story unit on the larger lots, specifying the location of this area;
· The built entry design and the landscaping;
· For Chairman Chiniaeff, specified that the product designs and the streetscene
visuals were pulled from architecture which was being built today, advising that the
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elevations depicted in the Design Guidelines were taken from actual project design
drawings, and that when specific architectural designs had been developed for these
homes they would be coming forward for Product Review approval;
· Presented the enhanced window treatments, porch elements, and front entries;
· For Chairman Chiniaeff, noted that the photograph samples were depicting Pacific
Century homes which had been actually built in alternate areas; and
· That the elevation in which the driveway was inadvedently not depicted would have a
turn-in garage treatment.
For clarification, Chairman Chiniaeff relayed to the public that the renderings depicted
the types of homes that would be developed per the Design Guidelines and were not an
actual representation of the project, advising that specific product review would be
reviewed at a future public hearing.
The applicant's representative clarified that the Design Guidelines provided the
conceptual architectural styles being proposed for future implementation, requesting
input as to whether these padicular guidelines define the criteria the Planning
Commission was seeking.
Commissioner Guerdero suggested that the applicant review the final Harveston Design
Guidelines to gain an understanding of what the Planning Commission was seeking.
For informational purposes, Director of Planning Ubnoske noted that this project was
already approved with a vesting map; and relayed that at this time the applicant was
simply presenting revised updated Design Guidelines.
The Planninq Commission offered the following input re~lardin~l the proposed Desiqn
Guidelines:
Commissioner Olhasso noted that the proposed products were outdated, depicting
large stucco boxes without authentic architectural styles, relaying hopes that it was
the applicant's desire to build a higher quality product.
In response, the applicant's representative relayed the desire to build a product that
would have continuity with the existing homes in this area.
With respect to the proposed Design Guidelines, specifically on page 5,
Commissioner Mathewson noted the lack of language addressing the development
of an adequate mix of one- and two-story homes, advising that to have numerous
homes built side-by-side with the same rooflines would not be acceptable; and
requested a minimum single-story commitment.
Assistant City Attorney Curley confirmed that it would not be appropriate to impose a
specified percentage of one-story homes with respect to this project; and for
Commissioner Mathewson, confirmed that the variation of the floor plans could be
addressed subject to the approved resolutions associated with this project not having
language included addressing this matter.
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Commissioner Mathewson requested that the language of the Design Guidelines be
strengthened to encourage the implementation of an adequate number of single-
story homes.
Assistant City Attorney Curley clarified that the Planning Commission was seeking a
streetscene with variation with respect to the elevations, i.e., the height, and the
rooflines. Director of Planning Ubnoske confirmed that this type of language could be
added to the Design Guidelines due to it being general.
Mr. Bob Fallon, representing KB Home Coastal Inc., joined the applicant's
representatives at this point to aid in addressing the Planning Commission's queries.
With respect to the general language throughout the Design Guidelines stating
should incorporate elements, or at times stating may incorporate elements,
Commissioner Mathewson recommended that the words should and may be
replaced with the word shall.
Assistant City Attorney Curley confirmed that this recommendation was appropriate.
Referencing page 7 of the Design Guidelines, Chairman Chiniaeff noted that he had
noted some revisions that he recommended that the applicant implement which he
would provide to staff.
in response to Chairman Chiniaeff's recommendations to add articulation to
additional elevations, the applicant's representative noted a willingness to implement
these revisions.
Referencing page 8 of the Design Guidelines, Commissioner Olhasso noted her
displeasure regarding the shutters denoted on the Spanish Colonial style,
recommending that arched windows be incorporated; with respect to the Craftsman
style, opined that the porch treatment was too small and the brick or stone would
need to be continued or there should be siding implemented all the way down, citing
an example from the Harveston proposed product (Plan 9); with respect to the
ltalianate style, noted that she could accept the varying stucco tones or there could
be added stonework, Commissioner Guerriero recommending the added stone.
For Commissioner Telesio, the applicant's representatives noted that the chimneys
were located behind the product on this page, and that it was an optional element on
the KB Home product; and clarified that these elevations represented the smaller
end product.
With respect to pages 9, 10, and 11 of the Design Guidelines, Chairman Chiniaeff
recommended that on the enhanced elevations (i.e., elevations which were visible
from the public right-of-way), that the shutters or alternative treatments be added to
all the windows, as well as the pop-out treatments.
Referencing page 11 of the Design Guidelines, Commissioner Olhasso noted that on
the Craftsman style, the porch was too small, and that the front entry should be more
continuous, suggesting that an authentic porch be added, in particular one that was
wider; and that the Spanish Colonial style should be simplified to create authenticity,
and the rooflines should create a clean front line appearance.
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Referencing page 11 of the Design Guidelines, Commissioner Mathewson
recommended that there be some architectural forward treatments, additionally
commenting on the rooflines with no variation on the rear elevations.
In response, Mr. Burnell suggested that some of the streetscenes be included in the
Design Guidelines depicting these particular implementations; and for Commissioner
Telesio, noted that at this point the applicant was unsure what the product mix would
be; and clarified that implementing the streetscenes into the Design Guidelines
would represent the required mix.
For clarification, Principal Planner Hazen relayed that when Product Review takes
place at a Planning Director's Hearing, projects were conditioned to implement an
adequate mix of roofline elements, providing assurance that staff would address this
issue.
Assistant City Attorney Curley noted that the applicant's willingness to add a
streetscene representative of a mixed product would further define the general
concepts required, and that revising the language to add a requirement for a mixture
of styles, elevations, and heights, would provide a level of certainty regarding an
adequate mixture.
With respect to all of the subsequent enhanced elevations, Chairman Chiniaeff
recommended that all the windows on an elevation be adiculated similarly in lieu of
solely one.
Referencing page 13 of the Design Guidelines, specifically the graphic denoting the
standard condition, Chairman Chiniaeff advised that this elevation was not
acceptable due to its box-like appearance; and confirmed for the applicant that the
enhance condition style could be utilized for both elevations within the public view,
and out of public view.
Referencing page 14 of the Design Guidelines, the Planning Commission
recommended a more authentic style on the Craftsman design, Chairman Chiniaeff
suggesting added fascia, i.e., brick or siding. Commissioner Guerriero recommended
that on the Spanish Colonial style the windows be arched, Chairman Chiniaeff
suggesting the addition of a pot shelf treatment with shutters. Commissioner Olhasso
advised that these depictions were the most antiquated.
For Chairman Chiniaeff, the applicant's representative concurred that the four-vent
treatment should be revised.
Referencing page 16 of the Design Guidelines, Commissioner Guerriero
recommended that on the one-story French Country style depicted on the right side
of the page, stone be added under the window to the right of the entry, as well as on
the right side of the garage, Commissioner Olhasso recommending that rock
surround the garage door on the two-story element, and recommending that the
shutter treatment be revised.
For Chairman Chiniaeff, the applicant's representative specified the lot sizes in each
planning area.
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Referencing page 18 of the Design Guidelines regarding the Italianate style, the
Planning Commission recommended additional consistency, not one window with
shutters and another without, recommending that continuity be implemented on the
other styles as well. Commissioner Guerriero recommended that on the Italianate
style the area around the door be scored to simulate block.
For Commissioner Olhasso, the applicant's representative relayed that the front
porch would be approximately six feet.
For Commissioner Mathewson and Chairman Chiniaeff, Director of Planning
Ubnoske relayed that typically the Design Guidelines could address implementation
of architecturally forward elements, advising that staff would investigate the approved
conditions for this project to ensure that this matter had not been addressed, noting
that if there was no conflicting language, then the incorporation of this element would
be added to the Design Guidelines. In response, the applicant relayed the intent for a
variety of elevations to be provided including architecture forward elements.
Recapitulating, Chairman Chiniaeff noted that there needed to be consistency in the
detailed articulation, i.e., avoiding three different types of windows on the front of a
house (as cited on page 21 of the Design Guidelines). Commissioner Olhasso
recommended that siding and rock be added to the Craftsman style even if solely on
the higher end product, and that arched windows and doorways be added to the
Spanish Colonial style.
Referencing page 22 in the Design Guidelines, Chairman Chiniaeff noted that the
rear elevation was flat and needed added elements to create visual interest.
Referencing page 25 of the Design Guidelines, the applicant's representative
provided additional information regarding the French Country style.
Referencing page 27 of the Design Guidelines, Commissioner Guerriero and
Chairman Chiniaeff noted the lack of consistency again with the window treatments,
recommending that the shutter treatment be added to alternate windows, and in
particular the window to the far left. Commissioner Guerriero and Chairman Chiniaeff
noted that the supports for the porch treatment appeared to be inconsistent with the
French country style.
In response, Mr. Burnell agreed, advising that this treatment would be revised
Referencing page 27 of the Design Guidelines, Chairman Chiniaeff recommended
that additional articulation be added to the Spanish Colonial style, Commissioner
Guerriero recommending enhanced stucco finish.
With respect to page 31 of the Design Guidelines regarding the French Country
style, Commissioner Guerriero and Commissioner Olhasso recommended that the
stone treatment be continued on both sides of the garage.
For Commissioner Telesio, the applicant provided additional information regarding
the design of this elevation.
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With respect to page 33 of the Design Guidelines, Commissioner Mathewson
recommended that the language include encouragement to implement architecturally
forward elements and recessed garages, and that the configurations on page 34 be
modified to reflect this implementation.
At this time the public was invited to speak
The following individuals spoke in opposition to the project:
Mr. Roger Jaeger
Mr. Bennet Cherry
Ms. Pamela Voit
41325 Billy Joe Lane
43091 Noble Coud
38770 Sky Canyon Drive, #B
Murdeta
The above-mentioned individuals were opposed to the project, expressing the following
comments:
Noted the need to beak up the rooflines which as proposed did not present a mix,
concurring with the Planning Commission's comments, recommending that the
elevations in the public view provide a variety of architecture detail;
,/ Thanked the Planning Commission for their comments and recommendations;
Voiced concern regarding the impact of this project on the existing HOA, i.e.,
increased HOA fees, and the maintenance of landscaping; and concurred with the
applicant that a pool facility should not be implemented;
,/ Opposed to the implementation of 3-story homes due to the negative visual impacts;
Disappointed with the presented elevations which lack articulation, recommending
that the Design Guidelines not be approved due to the lack of specificity and
architectural detail;
Concurred with Commissioner Mathewson regarding the implementation of
architecturally forward elements; and
Noted concern regarding the proposal to eliminate the Design Guidelines for the 28
homes in the Crowne Hill Estates.
For informational purposes, Director of Planning Ubnoske relayed that residents within a
300-foot radius would be notified of the Director's Hearing which would address the
Product Review for this project, and that the hearing would also be posted, as well as
advertised in the newspaper.
MOTION: Commissioner Guerriero moved to close the public hearing; and to approve
staff's recommendation to approve this application, subject to the modifications specified
in the minutes of this meeting, specifically the portion reflecting the Planning
Commission's bulleted recommendations, as well as implementing staff's
recommendations contained in the staff report. The motion was seconded by
Commissioner Telesio. (Ultimately this motion passed; see page 18.)
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It was determined that staff would work with the applicant and the residents regarding
the conceptual landscape plan.
Further commenting, Commissioner Olhasso opined that although the applicant noted
the need to maintain the profit margin on this project, the majority of the Planning
Commission recommendations allow for the applicant to maintain its goals while
improving the product.
For Commissioner Telesio, Principal Planner Hazen noted that there was a condition on
the vesting map for this project that Pauba Road conform to a County standard road
which included an equestrian trail, advising that although Chairman Chiniaeff
recommended that the horse trail be eliminated due to its lack of connectivity and that
the monies be attributed to additional landscaping, that the trail could not be easily
eliminated due to the conditions.
At this time voice vote was taken reflecting unanimous approval of the motion.
9 Planninq Application No. PA99-0186 General Plan Amendment: 2000-2005
Housinq Element, Dave Hoqan, Principal Planner:
RECOMMENDATION:
9.1 Adopt the Negative Declaration for Planning Application No. 99-0186;
9.2 Adopt a Resolution entitled:
PC RESOLUTION NO, 2002-038
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA RECOMMENDING THAT THE
CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE 2000-2005 HOUSING
ELEMENT (PLANNING APPLICATION 99-0186)
Principal Planner Hogan reviewed the two revisions proposed in the 2000-2005 Housing
Element (per the staff repod), advising that a conditional approval from Department of
HCD (Housing and Community Development) had been received regarding this element;
and for Chairman Chiniaeff, confirmed that the Housing Element had been circulated.
MOTION: Commissioner Mathewson moved to close the public hearing; and to approve
staff's recommendation. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Guerriero and
voice vote reflected unanimous approval.
10 Planninq Application No. PA02-0318 Development Code Amendment: Modular
Structures and Other Chanqes, Dave Hoqan, Principal Planner:
RECOMMENDATION:
10.1 Adopt a resolution entitled:
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PC RESOLUTION NO. 2002-
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA RECOMMENDING THAT THE
CITY COUNCIL APPROVE AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF TEMECULA ADOPTING STANDARDS FOR
MODULAR STRUCTURES, ADOPTING CHAPTER 17.10
OF THE TEMECULA MUNICIPAL CODE, AND MAKING
OTHER MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE TEMECULA
MUNICIPAL CODE" (PLANNING APPLICATION 02-
0318)
Discussion ensued regarding continuing this matter to the October 2, 2002 Planning
Commission meeting.
It is noted that Ms. Doreen Gagnon, and Rev. H. G. McComas, who had filled out
request-to-speak forms for this item opted to hold their comments until the continued
hearing.
MOTION: Commissioner Guerriero moved to continue this item to the October 2, 2002
Planning Commission meeting. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Olhasso
and voice vote reflected unanimous approval.
COMMISSIONER'S REPORTS
No comments.
PLANNING DIRECTOR'S REPORT
No comments.
ADJOURNMENT
At 10:50 P.M. Chairman Chiniaeff formally adjourned this meeting to the next re.qular
meetin.q to be held on Wednesday, October 2, 2002 at 6:00 P.M., in the City Council
Chambers, 43200 Business Park Drive, Temecula.
Debbie Ubnoske,
Director of Planning
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