HomeMy WebLinkAbout120402 PC MinutesMINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
PLANNING COMMISSION
DECEMBER 4, 2002
CALL TO ORDER
The City of Temecula Planning Commission convened in a regular meeting at 6:07 P.M.,
on Wednesday, December 4, 2002, in the City Council Chambers of Temecula City Hall,
43200 Business Park Drive, Temecula, California.
ALLEGIANCE
The audience was led in the Flag salute by Commissioner Olhasso.
ROLLCALL
Present:
Commissioners Guerriem, *Mathewson, Olhasso, Telesio,
and Chairman Chiniaeff.
* - Commissioner Mathewson arrived at 6:21 P.M.
Absent: None.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
No comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1 Aqenda
RECOMMENDATION:
1.1 Approve the Agenda of December 4, 2002.
2 Director's Hearin.q Case Update
RECOMMENDATION:
2.1 Approve the Director's Hearing Case Update for November 2002.
MOTION: Commissioner Olhasso moved to approve Consent Calendar Item Nos. 1-2.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Guerriero and voice vote reflected approval
with the exception of Commissioner Mathewson who had not yet arrived.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
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Planninq Application No. PA02-0387 & PA02-0388 Application to construct, establish
and operate a 30,000 square foot office buildin.q and to subdivide the site into two
parcels of 1.41 acres and 4.28 acres respectively, located on the East side of County
Center Drive, approximately 740 feet north of Ynez Road (APN 910-110-045),
Matthew Harris, Associate Planner
RECOMMENDATION:
3.1 Requesting a continuance to January 15, 2003.
Chairman Chiniaeff informed the public that the applicant has requested a continuance
to the meeting of January 15, 2003.
MOTION: Commissioner Guerriero moved to approve staff recommendation. The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Telesio and voice vote reflected approval with
the exception of Commissioner Mathewson who had not yet arrived,
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Planninq Application No. PA02-0223 A request for a findinq of Public Convenience or
Necessity and a Minor Conditional Use Permit to upqrade the existinq Type-20 (Off
Sale Beer and Wine) ABC license to a Type 21 (Off Sale General) license
authorizin.q the sale of beer, wine and distilled spirits for consumption off the
premises where sold located in the Mora.qa Plaza Shoppin.q Center at 29762 Rancho
California Road on the north side of Rancho California Road, between Lyndie Lane
and Mora.qa Road known as Assessor's Parcel No. 921-310-022, Rolfe Preisendanz,
Assistant Planner
RECOMMENDATION:
4.1 Adopt a Notice of Exemption for Planning Application No. 02-0223 (Public
Convenience or Necessity and Minor Conditional Use Permit) per the California
Environmental Quality Act, Section 15270 (Projects Which Are Disapproved).
4.2 Adopt a resolution entitled:
PC RESOLUTION NO. 2002-058
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA DENYING A REQUEST FOR
A FINDING OF PUBLIC CONVENIENCE OR NECESSITY
TO UPGRADE THE CURRENT ALCOHOL BEVERAGE
CONTROL (ABC) LICENSE FROM A TYPE 20 (OFF
SALE BEER AND WINE LICENSE) TO A TYPE 21 (OFF-
SALE GENERAL LICENSE) LOCATED IN THE
MORAGA PLAZA AT 29762 RANCHO CALIFORNIA
ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE OF RANCHO
CALIFORNIA ROAD, BETWEEN LYNDIE LANE AND
MORAGA ROAD KNOWN AS ASSESSOR'S PARCEL
NO. APN 921-310-022.
4.3 Adopt a resolution entitled:
PC RESOLUTION NO. 2002-059
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA DENYING PLANNING
APPLICATION NO. 02-0223 A MINOR CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT TO UPGRADE THE CURRENT ALCOHOL
BEVERAGE CONTROL (ABC) LICENSE FROM A TYPE
20 (OFF SALE BEER AND WINE LICENSE) TO A TYPE
21 (OFF-SALE GENERAL LICENSE) LOCATED IN THE
MORAGA PLAZA AT 29762 RANCHO CALIFORNIA
ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE OF RANCHO
CALIFORNIA ROAD, BETWEEN LYNDIE LANE AND
MORAGA ROAD KNOWN AS ASSESSOR'S PARCEL
NO. APN 921-310-022.
Staff presented the staff report
Principal Planner Hazen reviewed the Planning Commission's rationale for continuing
this matter from the November 20, 2002 meeting, advising that since there were only
four Planning Commissioners present and the support for denial and approval was split,
the Planning Commission continued the item to this meeting in hopes of having the full
Commission present.
For the record, Commissioner Olhasso, who had been absent from the November 20,
2002 meeting, noted that she had reviewed the taped record and the draft minutes
regarding this item.
The applicant's representative provided an overview of the proposal
Dr. Sami Jihad, representing the applicant, provided the following information regarding
this particular application:
Noted that with approval of this request for a Type 21 license, the number of licenses
in this census tract would not increase due to the applicant's intent to cancel the
current license if the upgraded license was granted [referencing a letter provided in
the agenda material dated November 6, 2002 from the Alcoholic Beverage Control
(ABC) Board confirming the intent of the applicant;]
That with respect to the impact of the upgraded license on the community, relayed
that there would be no negative impacts, noting that the Police Department relayed
no opposition to the upgraded license, that the Temecula Valley Unified School
District had written a letter thanking this applicant for continued support, that the
community offered its support of the upgraded license via the petition with over 500
signatures (per agenda material), and that of the 160 letters sent to neighboring
residents, the applicant had received no protests; and
That with respect to the applicant's role in the community, that the applicant has
offered to install a chain-linked fence across the 1st Baptist Church's property, has
donated to community activities and charitable organizations and schools, has
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maintained an excellent record with the Police Department with no violations, and
had been a businessman in Temecula for eight years prior to his two years at the
present business location.
The public was invited to comment
Reverend Larry Fisher, 42101 Moraga Road, confirmed that while the applicant offered
to install a fence at the neighboring chumh use, it would have to traverse through a
Southern California Edison right-of-way and would most likely need additional review
and approval; presented a box of trash comprised primarily of empty liquor bottles that
he had collected in a ten-minute period of time from the wooded bank area proximate to
the church; provided photographs of the bank and its proximity to the pre-school as well
as pictures of debris on the slope behind the mini-mart including empty alcohol
containers; and clarified that his greatest concern was the proximity of children to this
use, noting his opposition to the upgrading of this liquor license.
Closin,q comments were offered
Commissioner Guerriero advised that while he had no doubt that the applicant was an
excellent businessman in the community, his concern was based on the proliferation of
full liquor licenses in the community; and noted that he did not support this particular
proposal.
Commissioner Telesio relayed that in the eight years of doing business, this owner has
had no complaints from the community, the Police Department, the surrounding
businesses and has had no violations with respect to the use of his current license;
clarified that approval of the applicant's request would not add an additional liquor
license to this tract, but would simply expand his license; questioned the equity of every
major grocery store in this area receiving the upgraded license when requested while the
small businessman was required to go through this process, noting that this
businessman was in business in the community for a longer period than several of the
larger grocery stores which had the upgraded licenses; opined that the fact that the
upgraded license would aid in keeping the convenience store viable was not grounds for
denying this request, noting his support of aiding in keeping the small businessman
going; noted the comments of the residents expressed at the November 20, 2002
meeting whereby support for this request was relayed; advised that the upgraded license
would serve as a convenience for the residents in this area; and relayed that he would
support this proposal, querying the rationale for not providing the small businessman the
same options as a large big box use.
With respect to this business being viable, Commissioner Olhasso opined that the owner
would most likely not have purchased the business two years ago if it was not viable;
advised that while generally she was on the side of business, in this case she was on
the side of the ABC and staff, relaying that she supported staff's recommendation to
deny the proposal; with respect to the big box uses obtaining the upgraded liquor
licenses, relayed that the trade area associated with the larger uses was greater, noting
that the trade area for this store was less than desirable, opining that an upgraded liquor
license could create additional negative impacts.
It is noted that Commissioner Mathewson arrived at 6:21 P.M.
For Commissioner Mathewson, Assistant City Attorney Curley and Minute Clerk Hansen
summarized the public testimony provided earlier in this hearing on the record, and
Commissioner Mathewson reviewed the photographs that had been presented by
Reverend Fisher.
In response to Commissioner Olhasso's comments, Mr. Jihad clarified that ABC was not
opposed to the upgraded license; and noted that this business qualified as a pre-existing
legal non-conforming use, that approval for an upgraded license could be granted by the
Director of Planning, that the applicant had been willing to come before the Planning
Commission regarding this matter, and that the applicant had complied with ABC and
staff.
Commissioner Mathewson advised that the critical factor regarding this issue was
whether the Planning Commission could make a Finding of Public Convenience or
Necessity, opining that this application did not meet this criterion.
Advising that at the November 20th hearing this particular census tract with the existing
licensed uses was discussed, Chairman Chiniaeff relayed that census tracts were
arbitrary; noted that the licensed uses in this tract were primarily large grocery stores or
restaurants; reiterated that approval of this request would not add an additional license
to the community; opined that this project did meet the criteria to qualify for a Finding of
Public Convenience, which was echoed by Commissioner Telesio; and confirmed that
per conversations with Police Chief Domenoe, the Police Department was not in
opposition to the request for an upgraded license at this use.
Commissioner Telesio noted that he had visited the site in order to investigate
pedestrian activities, advising that he had viewed pedestrians accessing this site; and
relayed the past efforts of staff and the Planning Commission to create pedestrian-
oriented uses, noting that this request qualified for a Finding of Convenience due to
being pedestrian accessible to the neighboring residents.
Commissioner Guerriero commented on the dangers for the community associated with
a proliferation of licensed uses.
MOTION: Commissioner Guerriero moved to approve staff's recommendation, denying
this application. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Mathewson and voice vote
reflected approval with the exception of Commissioner Telesio and Chairman Chiniaeff
who voted no.
NEWITEMS
5 Planning Application No. PA02-0271, PA02-0272, PA02-0273, and PA02-0274 A
General Plan Amendment to amend the General Plan land use desiqnation from
Neiqhborhood Commercial to Community Commercial, A Specific Plan Amendment
for the Marqarita Villaqe Specific Plan to amend the land use desiqnation of Planning
Area 19 from Neiqhborhood Commercial to Community Commercial and amendin.q
the text within the Specific Plan, A Development Plan for the desi.qn, construction
and operation of a 48,427 square foot grocery store, a 16,640 square foot druq store,
a 11,230 square foot shop buildinq, a 8,780 square foot shop buildinq, a 6,220
square foot shop buildinq and a 4,670 square foot shop buildinq, A Conditional Use
Permit to operate a drive throuqh at a 16,640 square foot druq store, and to permit
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the sale of alcohol at a 48,427 square foot qrocery store and a 16,640 square foot
druq store located on the south side of Rancho California Road and east of
Meadows Parkway RushI Associate Planner
RECOMMENDATION:
5.1 Adopt a resolution entitled:
PC RESOLUTION NO. 2002-
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA RECOMMENDING THE CITY
COUNCIL DENY PLANNING APPLICATION NO. 02-
0272, A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT TO AMEND
THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO COMMUNITY
COMMERCIAL, GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF
RANCHO CALIFORNIA ROAD AND EAST OF
MEADOWS PARKWAY AND KNOWN AS ASSESSORS
PARCEL NO. 954-030-001
5.2 Adopt a resolution entitled:
PC RESOLUTION NO. 2002-
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA RECOMMENDING THE CITY
COUNCIL DENY PLANNING APPLICATION NO. 02-
0271, A SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE
MARGARITA VILLAGE SPECIFIC PLAN TO AMEND
THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF PLANNING AREA
19 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO
COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND AMENDING THE
TEXT WITHIN THE SPECIFIC PLAN, FOR PROPERTY
GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF RANCHO
CALIFORNIA ROAD AND EAST OF MEADOWS
PARKWAY AND KNOWN AS ASSESSORS PARCEL
NO. 954-030-001
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5.3 Adopt a resolution entitled:
PC RESOLUTION NO. 2002-
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA RECOMMENDING THE CITY
COUNCIL DENY PLANNING APPLICATION NO. 02-
0273, A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE DESIGN,
CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF A 48,427
SQUARE FOOT GROCERY STORE, A 16,640 SQUARE
FOOT DRUG STORE, A 11,230 SQUARE FOOT SHOP
BUILDING, A 8,780 SQUARE FOOT SHOP BUILDING, A
6,220 SQUARE FOOT SHOP BUILDING AND A 4,670
SQUARE FOOT SHOP BUILDING, GENERALLY
LOCATED SOUTH OF RANCHO CALIFORNIA ROAD
AND EAST OF MEADOWS PARKWAY AND KNOWN AS
ASSESSORS PARCEL NO. 954-030-001
5.4 Adopt a resolution entitled:
PC RESOLUTION NO. 2002-
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA RECOMMENDING THE CITY
COUNCIL DENY PLANNING APPLICATION NO. 02-
0274, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO OPERATE A
DRIVE THROUGH AT A 16,640 SQUARE FOOT DRUG
STORE, AND TO PERMIT THE SALE OF ALCOHOL AT
A 48,427 SQUARE FOOT GROCERY STORE AND A
16,640 SQUARE FOOT DRUG STORE, GENERALLY
LOCATED SOUTH OF RANCHO CALIFORNIA ROAD
AND EAST OF MEADOWS PARKWAY AND KNOWN AS
ASSESSORS PARCEL NO. 954-030-001
Planning Director Ubnoske reiterated staff's opinion that the General Plan land use
designation of Neighborhood Commercial is accurate for the subject site; stated that
staff will further explore the matter; and advised that it would be appropriate, at this
time, to take public testimony.
It was noted by Associate Planner Rush that e-mails were received from Dr. Albert
Ball, 31836 Corte Mendoza; and Ms. Maria Bissell, 41645 Corte Higuera, relaying their
opposition to the proposed center (copies of the e-mails were distributed to the
Planning Commissioners).
In response to the Planning Commissioners, Principal Planner Hazen and Associate
Planner Rush noted the following:
That the intent of the Community Commercial designation in the General Plan
would be a use that would serve the entire City; that the intent of the
Neighborhood Commercial designation would be more for the benefit of a
neighborhood core;
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That, as per the Development Code, the maximum allowable lot coverage for
Neighborhood Commercial is .40 with a density bonus and the target Floor
Area Ratio (FAR) is .25 (105,000 square feet); that the target Floor Area Ratio
(FAR) for Community Commercial is .30 maximum allowable lot coverage with
a density bonus of 1.0; that the Community Commercial designation would
permit more square footage on a lot; that the height limitation for the
Neighborhood Commercial designation would be 35' and for the Community
Commercial designation, it would be 50'; that the proposed plan would be at
approximately 95,000 square feet;
· That Meadows Parkway and Rancho California Road have been designated as
major arterials (110' right of ways);
That the significant land use differences between the Neighborhood
Commercial and Community Commercial designations would be the size of the
grocery store; the drive-thru, which would require for all zones, a Conditional
Use Permit; and the gas station;
That there are mitigation measures within the initial study; that if the project
were approved, a negative declaration and mitigation monitoring program
would be adopted;
· That the proposed site would lend itself to pedestrian access;
That the noise associated with the loading activities of a 48,000 square foot
grocery store would be more intense than those of a 25,000 square foot
grocery store;
That a center with a 48,000 square foot grocery store would be out of scale
considering the adjacent smaller-sized residential homes and would not be
compatible with the existing environment;
· That a Neighborhood Commercial center would be in scale with the Zono's
Center at Margarita/Pauba Roads;
That adjacent homes were approved by the County and when built, the zoning
for the area of discussion was Tourist Commercial Highway, which would
permit a grocery store;
· That an Environmental Negative Declaration was circulated but no responses
were received;
That staff would be of the opinion that pedestrian linkages throughout the site
are lacking and that if approved, staff would request the ability to further work
with the applicant to address concerns.
At this time, the public hearing was opened.
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Public Input
Mr. John Clement, applicant, introduced his project team - Mr. Richard Salus, attorney,
and Mr. Brian Wolfe, project architect. Proceeding with a project overview, the above-
mentioned individuals noted the following:
Zoning history - relaying that the property of discussion should not have the
Neighborhood Commercial zone designation; that the County Development
Agreement continued into affect when the property was sold; that when action
was taken to change the zoning, several issues occurred:
o The property owner did not consent to the change and, therefore, zone
change would be void;
O
At the time of the zone change, notices were not provided to the owner;
that the applicant received notice of an action pending as a recipient in a
bounded area but not expressly reflecting the subject site;
o Desirous to continue working with the City and to move project forward
and to work within bounds proposed by the City.
Mr. Larry Markham, 41635 Enterprise Circle, representing the applicant, noted the
following:
That the original document was Development Agreement No. 5 (11/7/1988) part
of Specific Plan Amendment No. 1 to the Specific Plan; subsequently
Amendment No. 2 in 1996; Amendment No. 3 in 10/28/1997; that Amendment
Nos. 1 and 2 were primarily for residential purposes; Amendment Nos. 3 and 4
were part of the Temeku Hills Specific Plan; that an error was made in
Amendment No. 3 (1997) which included areas that should not have been
included; and that Amendment No. 4 was submitted in December 1997 and was
approved by the City Council on January 27, 1998;
That the property of discussion was not included in the application for
Amendment No .4; that a notice was sent with regard to change and lot
coverage areas (areas included were west of Meadows Parkway and north of
Rancho California Road but not the subject site);
That after Amendment No. 4 was approved, a revised text package was
received by staff from the consultant; that this revised package reflected the
change to include the Neighborhood Commercial designation;
That when the General Plan was adopted in 1993, the property of discussion
was under the original Development Agreement; that the property of discussion
was zone changed to Neighborhood Commercial without the acquiescence or
notice to the applicant; that in 1993, the subject site was reflected as a 6.7 acre
parcel; that the area of discussion has always been 9.77 acres;
That research would indicate that the subject site is zoned Tourist Commemial
Highway, as zoned in 1988 (Planning Area 19 in the Development Agreement
and Specific Plan); that there has been no change, to date, to that document;
In an effort to rectify the zoning issue, Mr. Salus relayed his willingness to continue to
work with the Assistant City Attorney's office and staff.
By way of color renderings, Mr. John Clement commented on his workings with City
staff for the past two years, noting the following:
· That the 10-acre parcel would accommodate a grocery/drug store; that
specific economic factors are necessary to finance a site of this size;
· That the site plan has been changed on several occasions in an effort to
mitigate concerns, noting the following:
o Continued equestrian trails and sidewalks
o Front entry to the project site (Ranch California Road) - soft edges,
vineyard theme, Iow signage
o Meadows Parkway entrance - broad sidewalk surround the entire
center
o Downtown theme - benches, water features, gathering area
· That the loading dock area will be completely enclosed with a solid gate
That the separate building (located on Rancho California Road/Meadows
Parkway) was intended to function as a restaurant or some other
Neighborhood Commercial permitted use;
· That there will be pedestrian links throughout the entire center;
· That all components/uses of the center were designed as Neighborhood
Commercial in an effort to service the local neighborhood;
That Neighborhood Commercial would permit a 25,000 square foot grocery
store; that it would be the applicant's desire to increase the size of the
grocery store to 48,000 square feet.
Addressing concerns raised by the neighboring residents, Mr. Clement noted the
following:
· Visual noise/loading
That the maximum height standard for Neighborhood Commercial is
35'; that the proposed center was designed at 28'; that the proposed
rotunda will be 35'; and that the arch treatment could be altered;
o That the architectural finish of all building will be the same on all four
sides;
· Noise
That, as per City Code, an external level of 65 decibels is permitted;
that an acoustical study reflected that the proposed center, after
completion, may experience an external level of 62.5 decibels; that
the 62.5 decibels would primarily be comprised of street noise
versus center noise; and that the center would actually function as a
noise buffer;
· Center hours as well as delivery hours
· Loading
o Dock will be oriented away from homes
o Dock will be enclosed
· Buffering from residences
Neighborhood Commercial standards require a minimum 25' setback
residential; that the average setback will be 52'; that the maximum
setback will be 65'; and that the minimum setback will be 32'; that the
existing natural slope will provide a 25' to 35' buffer;
· Out-of-scale
That Neighborhood Commercial standards permit a maximum lot
coverage of 25%; that the proposed center will have a lot coverage
of 22.5%;
· Environmental
That, as per the City's Notice to issue a Notice of proposed
declaration (November 12, 2002), the proposed project will not have
a significant impact upon the environment.
With the exception of the proposed size of the grocery store (48,000 square feet), Mr.
Clement reiterated that the proposed center was designed as a Neighborhood
Commercial center.
In response to Commissioner Olhasso, Mr. Clement advised that notices of plans were
sent to four neighboring homeowners associations; that he had received one letter in
full support; that the project team has met with specific groups for input; and that efforts
have been undertaken to address the concerns of those residents more directly
affected by the proposed center.
For Commissioner Mathewson, Mr. Clement noted that Vons and Sav-On had indicated
a willingness to modify its business hours with those businesses located on Rancho
California Road and that no specific hours have been set for deliveries.
In response to Chairman Chiniaeff, Mr. Clement confirmed that, as per the
Neighborhood Commercial use, the proposed drive-through would require a Conditional
Use Permit and that the grocery store will not be utilizing trash compactors at this
particular location.
At 7:36 P.M. a short recess was called and the Planning Commission reconvened with
its regularly scheduled business at 7:48 P.M.
The following individuals spoke in support of the proposed project:
- Ms. Robin Greer
- Mr. Bob Crowtler
- Mr. Robert Rasband
- Ms. Christine Helwig
- Ms. Pat Lindahl
- Mr. Al Ogle
30090 Rancho California Road
41536 Yankee Run
32044 Merlot Crest
38225 Via de Oro
45660 Camino Rubi
43053 Margarita Road
The above-mentioned individuals spoke in support of the project for the following
reasons:
· That the developer has addressed community/Planning Department issues with
regard to the project;
· That the neighborhood area has a need for this center and that without it, there
will be continued traffic impact on Rancho California Road and Winchester
Road;
· That the size of the store will not greatly impact inventory deliveries;
· That a 25,000 square foot grocery store would be functionally obsolete;
· That several smaller stores versus a larger grocery store could create other
problems;
· That the proposed center will be a visual asset and enhancement to the
aesthetics of the neighborhood;
· That the residents of this neighborhood were aware that something would be
constructed on this particular parcel;
· That similar concerns were raised with the Plaza del Sol Center; that two years
after the construction of that center, neighboring residents are pleased with the
center and no major problems have arisen.
Written communication received in opposition to the center
- Ms. Lisa Wigand
- Mr. Richard Schafer
- Mr. John Kelsey
- Mr. Wayne Arter
- Mr. Paul Jacob
33539 Corte Figueroa (by way of letter)
31418 Corte Tunas (by way of letter)
41875 Corte Lara (by way of letter)
32271 Corte Las Cruces (by way of letter)
32370 Corte Zamora (by way of letter)
The following individuals relayed their opposition to the proposed center:
Mr. George Marshall
Mr. Tony Harris
Mr. Wayne Arter
Mr. Paul Jacobs
Mr. Ed Lindsey
Mr. Donald McLaughlin
- Mrs. Pam Stangl
- Mr. Robert McAIlister
- Ms. Jenifer Alvarado
- Ms. Jodi Harris
- Ms. Petra Valasakos-Darmento
- Mr. William Madden
- Mr. Steven Hagl
- Ms. Christine Crawford
- Mr. Jefferson Smith
- Mr. Michael Crawford
31880 Corte Positas
416629 Corte Higuera
32271 Corte Las Cruces
32370 Corte Zamora
42375 Camino Merano
32205 Corte Chatada
31945 Camino Marea
31580 Culbertson Lane
41528 Riesling Court
41629 Corte Higuera
41665 Corte Higuera
41653 Corte Higuera
41613 Corte Higuera
32057 Corte La Puenta
31708 Paseo de las Olas
32057 Corte La Puenta
The above-noted individuals spoke in opposition to the proposed center for the
following reasons:
· That the area of discussion will not be conducive to pedestrian traffic
· That the proposed center would only minimize traffic trips for a few residents
· That the proposed center will provide minimal added services/goods to those
already being provided by existing shopping centers; that there is no need for
an additional grocery store
· That the existing zone for the property of discussion should remain as is or the
parcel should be converted into a park
· That the center would create noise, view, traffic, visual aesthetic, bright lights,
and air pollution impacts as well as raise concerns for the safety of the children
· That the signal on Paseo de las Olas would create stacking problems which
could impact the residential driveway within close proximity of that signal
· That the neighboring residents were advised that the property of discussion
was commercially zoned but that it was zoned Neighborhood Commercial
· That there would be objection to the proposed zone change (Community
Commercial) but no objection to a Neighborhood Commercial center
· That if the center were approved, a 24' deceleration lane should be provided
· That the proposed use would not be the most appropriate land use for the
property of discussion
· That other existing grocery stores throughout the City are separated from
abutting residences by either a City street or a water run-off
· That truck deliveries may be made during the time when children are walking to
the neighboring school
· That the property of discussion is an unique piece of property which is
completely surrounded by single-family houses and, therefore, the proposed
center would not be compatible with its surroundings
· That if approved, there could be the potential sale of alcohol 60' from his
resident
· That the proposed project would decrease the property values of the
neighboring homes.
Respondinq to the public, the applicant/applicant representatives stated the
followin.q:
· That Vons had completed a demographic analysis and it reflected the support of
the proposed grocery store
· That the proposed center would function as a neighborhood center and,
therefore, as per the traffic study, would be viewed as a traffic mitigator
That the delivery trucks would not travel on Meadows Parkway; that truck entry
would be on Rancho California Road; that Meadows Parkways could be
designated as a no truck delivery street
That the residents have indicated a willingness to accept a Neighborhood
Commercial center; that the project meets or falls below the standards of
Neighborhood Commercial (lower in height, density, greater setbacks); that the
only difference would be a larger grocery store (48,000 square feet)
That project packages were sent to four different homeowners associations; that
Mr. Markham had met with two homeowners association boards to provide
information; that a meeting was offered to all homeowners associations; that a
letter of support was received from one association and no interest was
expressed in meeting with the project representatives; that project packages
were as well sent to 18 abutting pmper~y owners.
In response to the Planning Commissioners, the applicantJapplicant
representatives stated the followin.q:
· That the market study specified trade areas
· That, as originally presented to staff two years ago, because of the culvert, there
will be no building located on Rancho California Road
It was noted by staff that staff had never been supportive of a grocery
store of this size and that when location of the market was considered
(into the eastern corner), a 48,000 square foot grocery store was never
of discussion
That the allowable massing, as per Neighborhood Commercial, would be
25% building to land area coverage; that the proposed project will be at
22.5%; that the allowable height standard for neighborhood commercial
is 35'; and that the proposed project will be at 28'.
Further addressing the site plan and the proposed layout, Principal Planner Hazen
noted the following:
· That the proposed site design is inadequate
· That two entrances are being proposed off Meadows Parkway
· That the center access off Rancho California Road is driving the design of this
project; that staff is desirous of one driveway off Rancho Califonria Road
· That in order to access any of the two proposed patio areas one would have to
cross major access points
· That in order to access Building E, one would have to cross a main driveway
entrance
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· That there will be a dead end driveway in the corner located near the proposed
drugstore
· That the grade differential between the streets and parking lot will be
approximately 4' to 5' downgrade
· That in order to access Building F, one would have to cross a drive aisle.
In response to Chairman Chiniaeff's comment to address the General Plan issue,
Planning Director Ubnoske advised that because this application was not submitted
with the request for a Planned Development Overlay (PDO), staff has not addressed
that issue with the applicant; that staff has addressed the Development Agreement with
the applicant; and that the primary issue of concern is the site design.
Commissioner Olhasso relayed her objection to the construction of a gas station in this
center.
Recognizing the site design issues, Commissioner Telesio noted that until zoning
issues are resolved the Planning Commission will not be in a position to take action.
Assistant City Attorney Curley provided information with regard to the Development
Agreement and the zoning issues and noted that he would anticipate providing
additional information by the next Planning Commission meeting.
If the applicant were held to construct a 25,000 square foot grocery store,
Commissioner Telesio questioned whether or not the applicant would be willing to
proceed. If the applicant were not willing to proceed, Mr. Telesio noted that there would
be no need to proceed with the redesign of the center.
Whether the zoning were to remain Neighborhood Commercial or changed to
Community Commercial, Planning Director Ubnoske reiterated staff's concern with the
massing of the proposed 48,000 square foot grocery store and its location on the site
plan.
In light of staff's recommendation to construct a 25,000 square foot grocery store,
Commissioner Mathewson concurred with Commissioner Telesio and questioned why
the Commission would continue to discuss the matter if the applicant were insistent on
constructing a 48,000 square foot grocery store.
Having been personally involved with the site plan of discussion in the late 1980s, early
1990s, Chairman Chiniaeff advised that the original concept for the property of
discussion was a neighborhood-oriented shopping center with a grocery store and a
gas station in an effort to keep individuals from driving to the Plaza which was, at that
time, the only shopping center with the exception of Stater Brothers which was across
the freeway; that the intent of the center was to reduce traffic trips on Rancho California
Road; and that in terms of a 48,000 square foot grocery store, if the proposed size were
not approved, the remaining allowable square footage could be utilized by several
smaller stores and, thereby, generating just as much traffic as a 48,000 square foot
grocery store.
Reiterating comments made by Chairman Chiniaeff, Commissioner Olhasso noted that
the area of discussion was intended to serve the surrounding neighborhoods and that
considering its close proximity to the residential homes, she would not concur with the
property function as a Tourist Commercial Highway center. Ms. Olhasso suggested that
the site plan issues be addressed; that a grocery store be permitted in order to serve
the neighborhood it was intended to serve; that gathering areas such as those at Tower
Plaza be considered; and that the proposed hours of operation are unacceptable.
Commissioner Mathewson recommended that staff and the applicant continue its efforts
to resolve the site layout issues to ensure the neighboring residents' concerns are
addressed.
Echoing previously made comments, Commissioner Telesio reiterated the original
intent of the subject site - to serve the neighborhood; stated that by serving the
neighborhood, traffic trips would be reduced on Rancho California Road; that the
proposed concept is sound but that the site design needs to be addressed; and that
those issues should be addressed by the applicant and staff.
Responding to the Commission's direction to revisit the site design and to concurrently
address the legal issues with regard to zoning, the applicant's representative confirmed
that a gas station will not be constructed on the subject site and relayed a willingness to
continue the matter to the January 15, 2003, Planning Commission meeting.
MOTION: Chairman Chiniaeff moved to continue the matter to the January 15, 2003,
Planning Commission meeting. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Olhasso
and voice vote reflected approval with the exception of Commissioner Guerriero who
abstained.
The Planning Commission encouraged the applicant to continue meeting with the
neighboring residents.
COMMISSIONERS' REPORTS
A. For Commissioner Olhasso, Planning Director Ubnoske advised that the Code
Enforcement Report will be presented to the Commission at its January 15, 2003,
meeting.
B. In response to Chairman Chiniaeff, Planning Director Ubnoske advised that the
issue of parked cars on Ynez Road (located on the dirt lot) is being addressed.
PLANNING DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Wirth regard to Agenda Item No. 5, Planning Director Ubnoske reiterated that staff has
and will continue to work with the applicant and advised that there would be a
considerable difference between a 48,000 square foot grocery store and a 25,000
square foot grocery store and 25,000 square feet of other buildings, giving staff a greater
flexibility with the site layout versus working with one massive building.
Ms. Ubnoske informed the Commissioners that Saied Naaseh has accepted the Senior
Planner position; that Kelly Mclntyre has accepted the Administrative Secretary position;
and that interviews have been scheduled for next week for the Associate Planner
position.
With regard to Administrative Secretary Mclntyre opening the Commissioners' mail in an
effort to apprise the Commissioners of upcoming events, Chairman Chiniaeff advised
that because of his frequent visits to City Hall, there would be no need for her to open
his mail; Commissioner Olhasso voiced no objection to her opening her mail;
Commissioner Telesio noted that unless the mail is marked confidential, he would have
no objection to it being opened; and Commissioner Mathewson concurred with
Commissioner Telesio and noted that all e-mails should be sent to his work e-mail
address.
ADJOURNMENT
At 9:43 P.M. Chairman Chiniaeff formally adjourned this meeting to Wednesday,
December 18, 2002, at 6:00 P.M., in the City Council Chambers, 43200 Business Park
Drive, Temecula.
Chairman
Debbie Ubnoske,
Director of Planning
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