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MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
PUBLlCITRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
July 25, 1996
A regular meeting of the City of Temecula Public/Traffic Commission was called to order on
Thursday, July 25,1996,7:00 P.M., at the City Hall Main Conference Room, 43174 Business
Park Drive, Temecula, California. Chairman Coe called the meeting to order.
PRESENT:
COMMISSIONERS: Coe, Guerriero, Johnson, Perry
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS: Sander
Also present were Joseph Kicak, Director of Public Works/City Engineer, Police Sergeant
Rodney Crisp, Police Lieutenant Jim Domenoe, Battalion Chief Mark Brodowski, Administrative
Secretary Anita Pyle, and Minute Clerk Pat Kelley.
Chairman Coe called for non-agenda items at 7:05 p.m.
Jim Nelson, Treasurer of the Temecula Volunteer Fire Department, requested $24.446.17 in
financial assistance: $21,666.17 for payoff of a 1993 International 4900 truck (Squad 12) and
$2,780.00 for a defibrillator purchase. Prudential Insurance will pay $2500.00 towards
purchase of a defibrillator if the balance can be raised by November 30, 1996. The Volunteer's
four annual fund raising events have not been adequate to cover the loan payment, defibrillator
purchase, and other expenses for this year.
Commissioner Perry asked Mr. Nelson to bring the matter back as an action item at the August
22, 1996 meeting.
Frank Kline, 30180 Santiago Road, spoke about the need to address dirt road dust emissions
and particulate matter and their effect on Temecula's air quality. He has computations
developed over a two-year period to share with the Commissioners and the City Council.
Chairman Coe asked Mr. Kline if he could prepare a 20-minute presentation for the September
26, 1996 Commission meeting. Mr. Kline responded he could.
COMMISSION CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes of June 27. 1996
It was moved by Commissioner Perry and seconded by Commissioner Johnson to approve the
Consent Calendar.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES:
4
COMMISSIONERS: Coe, Guerriero, Johnson, Perry
NOES:
o
COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT:
1
COMMISSIONERS: Sander
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PRESENTATIONS
Chairman Coe recessed the meeting at 7:38 p.m. for demonstrations by the Temecula Fire
Department of an Automatic Electronic Defibrillator (AED) unit, "Pluggie" Fire Hydrant Robot,
and an AIM 600 Gas Detector (Agenda Items 2 and 3).
Chairman Coe reconvened the meeting at 8:05 p.m.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
4. Kiwanis Club Sion Prooosal
Public Works Director Joseph Kicak presented the staff recommendation that the
Kiwanis Club form a committee to establish guidelines for identifying potential sign
locations through various Home Owners Associations and the proposed locations be
submitted to the City for review and approval.
Bev Stone. representing Temecula Kiwanis. stated that this Commission has more
information regarding hazardous locations than the Kiwanis Club. However, the Kiwanis
Club believe that the signs should be placed on main roads where speeders are a
problem and at schools, not necessarily in neighborhoods. The Club needs help to
determine the appropriate locations.
Commissioner Guerriero inquired as to who will be responsible for maintenance. Mrs.
Stone responded that all maintenance and installation costs would be borne by the
Kiwanis Club.
Commissioner Guerriero stated that the "Caution - Children in Area - Slow" sign gives
a false sense of safety to children and parents. Mrs. Stone replied the Kiwanis wanted
these signs to be placed at schools and asked if it was necessary to go before the
school board to do so. Mr. Kicak responded yes, it is.
Chairman Coe inquired if the Kiwanis had any documented information regarding
improved safety from other cities where these signs have been erected. Mrs. Stone
responded that they had not developed that information.
Mr. Kicak stated that staff believed it is necessary to go through the Home Owner
Associations because each neighborhood is made up of different residences and they
have the knowledge of which areas should be signed rather than the city dictating
placement. "Buckle Up" signs should be located at main entrances/exits and major
arterial ways rather than on highways where people are driving at high rates of speed.
Commissioner Guerriero inquired about making "Welcome to Temecula, Buckle Up"
signs. Commissioner Perry responded that pre-made signs like that are in existence.
Commissioner Johnson stated that people, for the most part, do not pay attention to
signs and gave an example of how the large yellow construction signs being utilized on
Ynez Road were ignored by most drivers.
Chairman Coe stated that to be consistent with Commission policy, the Kiwanis Club
should bring forth specific signing locations for approval.
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Commissioner Guerriero stated he thought it was a good idea and would be willing to
serve on a committee.
It was moved by Commissioner Guerriero and seconded by Commissioner Johnson to approve
staff recommendation that the Kiwanis Club submit proposed locations to the City for review
and approval.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES:
4
COMMISSIONERS: Coe, Guerriero, Johnson, Perry
NOES:
o
COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT:
1
COMMISSIONERS: Sander
5. "AII-Wav Stoo" - Rustic Glen Drive and Oak Cliff Drive: and Rustic Glen Drive and Stone
Gate Drive
Public Works Director Joseph Kicak presented the staff report and stated that the
request for installation of speed bumps and "All-Way Stops" at the intersections of
Rustic Glen Drive and Oak Cliff Drive and Rustic Glen Drive and Stone Gate Drive be
denied since these intersections do not meet installation criteria.
Nancy Kinder, 39749 Rustic Glen Drive, stated that although the corner of Rustic Glen
Drive and Oak Cliff Drive is not a school crossing, it is a bus stop and she has seen
many narrow escapes. Drivers are going 50 MPH on Margarita Road and continue at a
high speed when turning on Rustic Glen Drive.
John McMahon, 39772 Rustic Glen Drive, spoke regarding how dangerous it is for
children crossing the street due to the high speed driving on Rustic Glen Drive.
Additionally, traffic has increased due to the construction closing of Winchester Road.
Detoured drivers, even though they are unfamiliar with the area, are driving fast, thereby
creating an even more dangerous situation. He states semi-trucks have been seen in the
area and something needs to be done before children are injured or killed.
Jane Steinbach stated that her March 24, 1996 letter had been in error; the intersection
being complained about is Rustic Glen Drive and Quail Slope Drive, not Rustic Glen Drive
and Oak Cliff Drive. Mr. Kicak stated that staff only looked at the requested
intersections.
Mr. Kicak reported that the traffic signal at Rustic Glen Drive and Margarita will be
installed and working within 2 Yz months. The City is working with the school board
to change bus location for school children and a traffic coordinator could be placed at
Margarita and Rustic Glen. He also advised, the detour was done by the Riverside
County Board of Supervisors, and the City has asked both the Board and Caltrans to
come up with better signing.
Commissioner Guerriero asked, since there is a truck weight limitation for city streets,
could restrictive signing be placed in this area? Mr. Kicak replied that when a good
count and type of truck information is established, an appropriate sign could be placed.
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Gloria Walker, 27122 Majello Court, stated that when stopping at Stone Gate and Rustic
Glen Drive, a driver has to pull forward to see whether or not it is clear and several
times she has almost been sideswiped due to the short sight distance she feels during
Winchester Road construction, temporary stop signs are needed at the very least.
Jane Steinbach, 39893 Rustic Glen Drive, stated that Rustic Glen is 1600 feet long with
no stop signs, while there are two or three stop signs coming off of cul-de-sac streets.
However, inconsistency of stop sign installation may be due to the different phases of
the tract in 1985 thru 1987 and not due to City's decisions. She was disappointed that
everyone in the area was not sent a copy of the agenda. She contacted many residents
and while most couldn't come to the meeting, they are willing to sign a petition. When
the new high school opens, traffic will increase. During the past two (2) years, the
police have been called often and they have responded well, but she does not know
how much that costs the City. She has seen two (2) accidents, but the police were not
notified. The residents are no longer asking for speed bumps because fire equipment
cannot get through as easily.
Chairman Coe asked Ms. Steinbach if traffic has become more intense because of the
detour or has it always been bad. Ms. Steinbach replied it has always been bad.
Commissioner Johnson asked Lt. Domenoe if there is a minimum monetary amount of
damage to one vehicle before an accident must be reported. Lt. Domenoe replied it was
$500 and that information is only required to be reported to the Department of Motor
Vehicles.
Ms. Steinbach stated that if cost was the issue, the residents of the area are willing to
pay for the stop signs as they believe the signs would help maintain traffic uniformity.
Shawn Spera, 39767 Rustic Glen Drive, stated the problem was with west-moving
traffic on Rustic Glen. From 6 A.M. to 7 P.M., drivers are "flying" down the street.
Speed limits are exceeded daily even though the police are doing their job. There are
no crosswalks on Rustic Glen Drive. With the new high school. there will be more
young drivers with less patience.
Commissioner Perry stated that crosswalks are often seen by adults and children as a
safety zone and give a false sense of security. Crosswalks are not a safety zone and
the City does not want to create that image by indiscriminate usage.
Chairman Coe asked the Police Department for their thoughts.
Sgt. Crisp replied that the radar trailer and additional personnel have been there,
especially since the detour. During the day, they have not seen the traffic as suggested
tonight. Lt. Domenoe stated that the situation as described is no different from many
other areas. He pointed out that if stop sign warrant requirements are not met, it is
difficult for tickets to stand up in court.
Ms. Steinbach asked if stop signs are not warranted, what about speed bumps? Mr.
Kicak stated that since Rustic Glen Drive is 44 feet wide curb-to-curb, and is a collector.
not a residential road, it would not meet criteria. He will send Ms. Steinbach speed
bump installation guidelines.
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Matt Aguiar, 39672 Rustic Glen Drive, stated he has seen three (3) accidents. Rustic
Glen Drive is a hill with turns, and Quail Slope Drive is at the top of the knoll. He said
in the mornings, drivers are blinded by the sun, and there are many young children and
no parks in area.
Commissioner Perry stated that from what he was hearing, the problem seemed to be
mainly with the homeowners. He suggested getting the residents together to resolve
the problems.
Commissioner Guerriero stated that the issue of vegetation causing a sight distance
problem, could be resolved by asking the resident to trim the bushes. If that is not
successful, the City can request the owner to trim obstructing vegetation for additional
visibility.
Ms. Steinbach asked if the City would like to receive a petition. Mr. Kicak responded
that the City has to follow the universal guidelines and even with a petition from
homeowners, the City would have a difficult time requesting compliance.
Commissioner Guerriero replied that a petition must be signed by 75% of property
owners.
Commissioner Johnson noted that stop signs are not used to control traffic speeds.
Speed zones are established based on universal guidelin~'s adopted by all states and
cities.
Lt. Domenoe stated that if a signal is timed properly, people will travel at the speed of
the timing. A stop sign does just the opposite.
Commissioner Guerriero stated that even when stop signs are justified, many people
request their removal after several weeks due to braking and acceleration noises, etc.
He asked if there was a way to put up additional signs making people aware that this
area is not a public thoroughfare. Mr. Kicak stated that the City has requested Riverside
County and Caltrans to put up additional signs to channelize traffic along the appropriate
streets and putting up "This is not a detour" signs which hopefully will occur in a week
or so.
Commissioner Johnson asked about having a "Local Traffic Only" sign at Margarita Road
and Rustic Glen Drive. Mr. Kicak will talk to the County about such a sign.
Lt. Domenoe stated the Police Department will devote as much time as possible to the
area, especially during this construction period.
Ms. Steinbach asked if she could receive a vertical profile for Rustic Glen Drive. Mr.
Kicak will send one to her.
Commissioner Guerriero recapped by stating the City will work with the School District
to change the bus stop location; have a traffic controller at peak hours at Margarita
Road/Rustic Glen Drive intersection; conduct a traffic count for a temporary stop sign;
conduct a traffic study at Rustic Glen Drive and Quail Slope Drive; and look into
additional detour signs being placed.
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It was moved by Commissioner Perry and seconded by Commissioner Johnson that the City
complete the tasks enumerated by Commissioner Guerriero and the matter be brought back to
the Commission in 60 days for further review.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES:
4
COMMISSIONERS: Coe, Guerriero, Johnson, Perry
NOES:
o
COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT:
1
COMMISSIONERS: Sander
6. "AII-Wav Stoo" Pala Road and Rainbow Canvon Road
Director of Public Works Kicak presented the staff report and recommended that the
request for an "All-Way Stop" at the intersection of Pala Road and Rainbow Canyon
Road be denied.
Chairman Coe asked if the proposed traffic signal at Hwy 79 and Pala will allow traffic
to flow smoother and therefore faster. Mr. Kicak replied that there will be more storage
after the signalization and restripping are completed.
Commissioner Perry stated it would be great to put in an acceleration lane. Mr. Kicak
responded that was impossible at this time due to the inadequate width of the bridge
on Pala Road. Bridge widening is scheduled for 1999.
It was moved by Commissioner Guerriero and seconded by Commissioner Perry to approve staff
recommendation to deny the request to establish an "All-Way Stop" at the intersection of Pala
Road and Rainbow Canyon Road.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES:
4
COMMISSIONERS: Coe, Guerriero, Johnson, Perry
NOES:
o
COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT:
1
COMMISSIONERS: Sander
TRAFFIC ENGINEER'S REPORT
Director of Public Works Kicak reported on the following:
· Traffic Sianal at Hwv. 79(SI and Pala Road, work was started July 15, 1996 and
is expected to be in operation by the end of August 1996.
· Traffic Sianal at Margarita Road and Rustic Glen Drive, signal poles and controller
have been ordered. The County's Winchester Road Widening Project from
Margarita Road to Murrieta Hot Springs Road started July 8, 1996 and the
detour onto Margarita Road was effective July 15, 1996.
Commissioner Johnson requested the traffic count location schedule for the remainder
of the year.
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POLICE CHIEF'S REPORT
Lt. Domenoe stated there was no additional information to report.
Commissioner Johnson thanked the Police Department for the Citation Statistics
covering the first six (6) months of 1996.
FIRE CHIEF'S REPORT
Chief Brodowski stated there was no additional information to report.
COMMISSION DISCUSSION
Commissioner Johnson asked Public Works Director Kicak to review the removal and
replacement of asphalt markings on Avenida del Sol. One area has been marked and an
area on the other side of the roadway which appears to be just as deteriorated has not
been marked.
Commissioner Guerriero wanted to know the procedure for having median barriers
installed on Interstate 15 within the city limits of Temecula. He has noticed many U-
turns being made. Public Works Director Kicak will take the matter up with the Caltrans
District 8 Director.
Commissioner Perry requested a brief recap of the Joint Temecula/Murrieta
Transportation Committee. Commissioner Guerriero responded that because the
proposed Murrieta Mall was not included in the modeling, the Committee was unable to
proceed.
Chairman Coe stated the County is currently resurfacing Rainbow Canyon Road and as
the City's portion is in very bad condition, asked when Rainbow Canyon Road is
scheduled for resurfacing. Public Works Director Kicak will find out its position on the
priority schedule and report back.
Chairman Coe inquired if the Police Department had looked at how Oscar's Restaurant
opening will affect traffic. Lt. Domenoe responded that he thinks an exit on Ynez Road
is planned. Public Works Director Kicak will look into their planned exits and report back.
It was moved by Commissioner Johnson and seconded by Commissioner Perry to adjourn the
meeting at 10: 1 0 P.M. The motion was unanimously carried.
The next regular meeting of the Public/Traffic Safety Commission will be hold on Thursday,
August 22,1996, at 7:00 p.m., Temecula City Hall Main Conference Room, 43174 Business
Park Drive, Temecula, California.
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Chairman Charles Coe
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