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MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR
JOINT CITY COUNCIUPLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP
AUGUST 10, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The City Council and Planning Commission convened in an adjourned regular joint workshop at
5:01 P.M., on Tuesday, August 10, 2004, in the City Council Chambers of Temecula City Hall,
43200 Business Park Drive, Temecula, California.
ROLL CALL
Present
Councilmembers:
Comerchero, Roberts, Stone, Washington,
and Naggar
Absent
Councilmembers:
None
Present
Planning Commissioners:
Chiniaeff, Mathewson,'Olhasso, and Telesio
Absent:
Planning Commissioner:
Guerriero
PUBLIC COMMENTS
No comments.
CITY COUNCIUPLANNING COMMISSION REPORTS
No comments.
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CITY COUNCIUCOMMISSION BUSINESS
1 General Plan Land Use Issue Discussion
RECOMMENDATION:
1.1 Provide direction to staff and the consultant on the Community Advisory Committee's
recommended Draft General Plan.
Clearing up some misconceptions with regard to tonight's meeting, Mayor Naggar explained the
upcoming process, noting the following:
. That in 2001 the City Council had updated its General Plan
. That law dictates that the City to update its General Plan at least every five years
. That a consultant was hired and the Community Advisory Committee was established
. That this evening, no decisions will be made with regard the General Plan; that the intent
of this meeting is purely for informative purposes
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. That after tonight's meeting, the Community Services Commission, the Public Traffic
Safety Commission, and the Planning Commission will be given the opportunity to
review the General Plan update in order to make recommendations to the City Council;
that the City Council would make its final decisions regarding this Plan in late December
or early January 2005,
Because the City Councilmembers/Planning Commissioners are members of this community,
Assistant City Attorney Curley clarified the potential of conflict of interest due to ownership
interest, home values, and other business relations and noted that the discussion of any items
with potential conflict will be encapsulated and the Councilmember(s)/Commissioner(s) will be
requested to excuse himself/herself from the dais.
Councilman Stone apprised the Assistant City Attorney of a potential conflict with regard to
Meadowview Homeowners Association due to the location of his residence. Although no
decisions will be made this evening, Assistant City Attorney Curley noted that staff would
identify any possible conflicts for future meetings.
Planning Director Ubnoske introduced the General Plan consulting team.
By way of a PowerPoint Presentation, Mr. Bridges of Cotton/Bridges/Associates addressed the
City's General Plan Update, noting the following:
. Anticipated Time schedule
o 9/04 - Community/Commission Workshops
o 10/04 -11/04 - public review period of the Environmental Impact Report (EIR)
o 12/04 - Planning Commission Public Hearing
o 1/05 - City Council Public Hearing
. proposed changes that will affect Land Use/Circulation Elements
. technical changes
Proposed Chanaes to the Land Use Desianations
Mr. Jeff Henderson of Cotton/Bridges/Associates noted the following:
Land Use Desianations
. Rural Residential Designation - would establish five-acre minimum lot size
. Vineyards/Agriculture Designation - intended to identify areas used for agriculture in the
Planning Area
. Tribal Trust Lands Designation - proposed for properties in the Planning Areas that have
been designated as lands held in trust for the Pechanga Band by the Federal
Government
. Industrial Park Designation - solely a name change from Business Park Land Use
designation.
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land Use Map
. Staff recommended changes to the land Use Map
o Chaparral High School from Business Park to Public Institutional
o Southeast corner of SR 79 South and Butterfield Stage Road from Neighborhood
Commercial to Community Commercial
o Great Oak High School from Medium Density Residential to Public Institutional
o The Westside Specific Plan and other areas along the western City limits,
numerous minor adjustments to reflect the open space conditions as well as
tribal and other ownership conditions.
. Property owner requested changes that were supported/opposed by the Community
Advisory Committee (CAC) and are and are not included in the Update General Plan
Supported
o 5 acres on the north side of the Santa Gertrudis channel adjacent to Margarita
Road - CAC supported a change from Public Institutional to Professional
Office
o 9 acres on the southeast corner of Margarita Road and Solana Way - CAC
supported a change from Medium Density Residential to a combination of
Professional Office and Open Space
o 45 acres on the north side of loma Linda Road, east of Temecula lane - CAC
supported a change from Professional Office to a combination of low
Medium Residential and Medium Density Residential
o 18 acres west of Butterfield Stage Road between Chemin Clinet and Ahern Place
- CAC supported a change from low Density Residential to low Medium
Density Residential
o 20 acres at the northeast corner of Winchester and Nicolas Roads - CAC
supported a change form Neighborhood Commercial to Community
Commercial
Opposed
o 7 acres immediately south of the Temecula Creek Village - CAC opposed the
requested change from Open Space to a more developable designation
o 3 acres at the northwest corner of Margarita and Dartolo Roads - CAC opposed
the requested change from Professional Office to Community Commercial
o 304 acres at Temecula Creek Inn - CAC opposed the requested change for
parts of the site from Open Space to low Medium Density Residential as
well as a request to specify the preparation of a Specific Plan on the
property
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o 2 acres at the northeast comer of SR 79 South and Jedediah Smith Road - CAC
opposed the requested change from Very Low Density Residential to
Professional Office
. that approximately 15 land use requests were submitted by various property owners
through this process - some of which were supported and opposed by the CAC; that it
has been recommended by staff that 5 of these 15 requests be deferred until other
issues are resolved:
o three requests in the Nicolas Valley area
o two requests adjacent to the proposed Temecula Education Project
. Changes to the Land Use Map in French Valley Area
Circulation Element
. Primary changes will allow for additional street dedication around higher volume key
intersections as well as the CAC's recommendation to consider opening closed
connecting streets to improve City-wide circulation
. Roadway Cross-sections
o Modified Secondary Arterial - two divided lanes in each direction with no curb,
gutter, or sidewalk to maintain the rural character of the area
o Limited Secondary Arterial - would have one lane in each direction with a left-
turn lane and a separated trail
o Rural Highway - would have one lane in each direction with left-turn pockets
though in some areas two lanes may be needed
Circulation MaD
. Proposed new roadways as well as changes to the size designation
o Loma LindalAvenida de Missiones between Pechanga Road Parkway and SR 79
o North General Kearney from Deer Meadow Road (near Nicolas Road) to near the
northern segment of Calle Pina Colada
o Eastern Bypass consisting of Anza Road, Deer Hollow Way, and a southern
connection to Interstate 15 via a new interchange
o Sky Canyon Road/Briggs Road parallel route along Winchester Road past the
future bottleneck area by French Valley Airport
. Growth Management/Public Facilities Element
o Policy change is the addition of a statement discouraging street closures that
may limit or delay access to emergency services
. Community Design Element
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o Additional discussion on the Mixed Use Design Concept and on public spaces
and public art.
In an effort to provide those interested in speaking, Mayor Naggar limited the speaking time to
two minutes. .
Deputy City Clerk Ballreich informed the Council/Commission that written communication with
regard to the General Plan had been received from Max and Agnes Bosetti, David Dillon,
Meadowview Community Association, Jeff and Shiela Noble, and Renee Broderick.
Thanking Deputy City Manager Thomhill and City Attorney Thorson for their associated efforts,
Ms. Eve Craig, Temecula, provided an update on Wolfs Tomb and discussed the historical
significance of this site.
Commenting on the proposed widening of Rainbow Canyon Road, Mr. Mark Cerney, Temecula,
expressed concern with its impact on property values; questioned the added benefit of such a
widening; questioned whether an environmental impact report had been completed; and
questioned if realtors will be required to provide disclaimers relative to the proposed widening.
Addressing the importance of recognizing the City's historical sites, Mr. Darell Farnbach,
Temecula, representing the Temecula Historical Society, appreciated the opportunity to create a
historical places/sites map.
Mr. Bill Harker, representing the Temecula Historical Society, reiterated the importance of
identification and preservation of the City's historical sites/structures and noted that the
designated historical sites/structures should be included in the General Plan.
Ms. Diana Lovett-Webb, Temecula, questioned the benefit to the community with
opening/extending North General Kearney Road.
Commenting on existing traffic issues, Mr. Robert Kaufman, Temecula, echoed concerns with
the opening/extension of North General Kearney Road.
Expressing concern with the. proposed designation for Rainbow Canyon Road, Ms. Renee
Broderick commented on the potential of eminent domain.
Relaying some confusion with regard to the Recreation Commercial Overlay and the Open
Space Elements, Mr. Sam Alhadeff, Temecula, representing Temecula Creek Inn, requested to
be given the opportunity to work with staff to provide for a Resort Commercial Recreation
Overlay.
Viewing such action as risking neighborhoods and the safety of children, Mr. Mike Budd,
Temecula, expressed his opposition to opening closed/gated streets.
For Commissioner Mathewson, Senior Planner Hogan advised that a golf course alone would
not qualify for a Commercial Recreation Overlay but that it would if it had other amenities such
as a health club, spa, resort accommodation facilities, etc. Commissioner Mathewson
suggested that resort/fractional units (timeshare) be defined.
For Commissioner Chiniaeff, Assistant City Attorney Curley confirmed that once tribal trust
lands have been designated. local jurisdiction no longer is applicable; therefore, the desire to
designate.
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Although golf courses are open space, Mayor Pro Tem Comerchero suggested that a special
designation be considered for them considering the commercial venture.
Concurring with Mr. Harker to provide safeguards in the General Plan to ensure historical sites
are protected, Councilman Stone reiterated that these sites should be identified in the General
Plan. Senior Planner Hogan noted that staff is in the process of creating an inventory and
location of the sites.
For Councilman Roberts, staff further clarified the Vineyard/Agriculture designation.
Noting that currently public transportation is being addressed under a subsection of the
Transportation Element, Mayor Pro Tem Comerchero recommended that a separate Public
Transportation Element be created and questioned whether there is right-of-way
preservation/bus turnouts/protected lanes/etc. in the General Plan for such uses to which Senior
Planner Hogan noted that those issues have not been identified in such detail.
Relaying his support of a Public Transportation Element, Deputy City Manager Thornhill noted
that certain negotiations such as for bus turnouts are dependent on the type of projects built.
Noting that the City Council has an obligation to plan for tomorrow, Councilman Stone, echoed
by Mayor Naggar, spoke in support of a separate Public Transportation Element.
Although supporting the concept of a separate Public Transportation Element, Councilman
Washington noted that transportation is a regional issue and commended staff and the CAC on
a job well done.
Concurring with a Commercial Recreation Overlay designation for golf courses, Mayor Naggar
as well relayed his support of identifying the City's historical sites and of creating a separate
Public Transportation Element.
Having communicated with the California High Speed Rail Authority, Councilman Roberts noted
that discussions included the location of a High Speed Rail and the land needed for such form
of transportation.
Chairman Telesio recommended that the City apprise the community of other proposed street
openings/closings.
Reiterating his support of a separate Public Transportation Element, Mayor Pro Tem
Comerchero commented on the necessity to preserve the needed right-of-way to ensure such
opportunities are not lost.
Stating that the rural nature of this community is an attractor to the City, Commissioner Olhasso
commented on the need for regional transportation planning.
Commissioner Mathewson commented on the need to explore strengthening the existing policy
with regard to parking for mixed use and village center developments.
Concurring with a park and ride facility, Mayor Naggar suggested to plan for land uses in a dual-
use capacity and to explore alternative forms of transportation.
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City Manager Nelson suggested that staff formulate a time schedule for the completion of the
General Plan, including the Public Transportation Element and noted that staff would report to .
the City Council.
In response to Chairman Telelsio's suggestion to explore the possibility of a Historic
Preservation Element, the consultant advised that the current draft of the Open Space
Conservation Element does include a subsection addressing historic/cultural resources.
Councilman Roberts advised that the California High Speed Rail Authority has started its
Environmental Impact Report.
In an effort to keep the General Plan Update on schedule, Commissioner Chiniaeff favored
implementing the Public Transportation Element at a later time.
Viewing public transportation as a regional transportation challenge, Councilman Washington
commented on the importance of exploring the Public Transportation Element in concert with
transportation needs of the future. .
With regard to the Economic Development Element, Commissioner Olhasso addressed the
need to update the verbiage.
Thanking those who have commented on the Plan and those that had attended this meeting,
Mayor Naggar briefly reviewed the upcoming review process of the General Plan Update.
ADJOURNMENT
At 6:32 P.M., Mayor Naggar formally adjourned the Joint City Council/Planning Commission
Workshop to the next regular City Council meeting at 7:00 P.M. on Tuesday, August 10, 2004
and to the next regular Planning Commission meeting at 6:00 P.M. on Wednesday, August
18,2004, City Council Chambers, 43200 Business Park Drive, Temecula, California.
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Debbie Ubnoske, Director of Planning
ATTEST:
Susan W. Jones, CMC
City Clerk
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