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Home My WebLink About120694 CC/Murrieta Jnt. Minutes MINUTES OF A SPECIAL JOINT MEETING OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA WITH THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MURRIETA MURRIETA CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 26442 BECKMAN COURT HELD DECEMBER 6, 1994 A regular meeting of the Temecula City Council was called to order at 6:13 PM at Murrieta City Council Chambers, 26442 Beckman Court. Mayor Jack van Haaster presiding. PRESENT 5 COUNCILMEMBERS: Lindemans, Mu5oz, Parks, Stone, Roberts ABSENT: O COUNCILMEMBERS: None PRESENT: 5 COUNCILMEMBERS: Allen, Geisse, Smith, Walsh, van Haaster ABSENT: 0 COUNCILMEMBERS: None Also present were City Manager Ronald E. Bradley, City Manager Steve Harding, Deputy City Clerk Susan W. Jones and City Clerk Kay Vinson. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The audience was led in the flag salute by Mayor Ron Roberts, City of Temecula. PUBLIC COMMENTS None given. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS None given. COUNCIL BUSINESS 1. Discussion and Possible Action Regarding Murrieta Creek Frank Pearce, Riverside County Flood Control, presented a brief Murrieta Creek chronology. He summarized revisions to the plan, including the inclusion of a detention basin and deletion of concrete channelization through Old Town. He also presented a summary of options regarding Murrieta Creek upstream from Tenaja Road. Councilmember Parks stated it was his understanding that the Committee recommended Option 2A (Floodway with Levee Near Nutmeg). Mr. Pearce answered the Committee moved to approve Option 2 (Floodway) and to investigate Option 2A. Minutes\ 12\06\94 -1 - 09/02/97 City Council Minutes December 6, 1994 Councilmember Lindemans suggested looking at Option 3 to purchase the Floodplain, and asked that this option be investigated, since Federal Funding may be available. Mayor Roberts asked if the City of Temecula would be expected to donate land for the detention basin. Mr. Ken Edwards, General Manager of Riverside County Flood Control, stated that the detention basin is necessary to eliminate channelization through Old Town Temecula and explained no compensation for property had been figured into the cost estimate. Councilmember Smith stated he is pleased with the proposed plan, however is concerned that Mr. Rhoades is given consideration to pursue his project. City Manager Bradley explained that only a small portion of the property owned by the City of Temecula would be acceptable for use as a detention basin and ownership of the subject property has changed from the City to the Temecula Redevelopment Agency. Councilmember Lindemans asked how this project would be funded. Mr. Edwards responded this would be funded via a special assessment district. He also explained congress will be petitioned to sponsor a bill that would provide assistance on projects that meet certain criteria. David Bartlett, 24197 Via Prima Vera, Temecula, spoke in favor of the project and requested that Option 2A (Floodway with Levee near Nutmeg), be put into place. Scott Woodward, 100 Bay View Circle, Laguna Hills, representing the Building Industry Association, spoke in support of the plan. John Bell, 37527 Vineyard Knoll Drive, Murrieta, spoke in support of the plan, and requested Options 2A (Floodway with Levee near Nutmeg) and 2B (Floodway with Levee Near Nutmeg Proposed by VTR 23187) be investigated. William Rawlings, spoke in opposition, stating he did not feel it is fair for properties North of Tenaja Road, since they would not be provided with flood protection. He suggested Option 3B (Floodplan with Levee near Nutmeg Proposed by VTR 23187) which would provided protection to all. Willie Gale, 41715 Cayente Ct., representing URGE, spoke in support of the project. Bill Coscarelli, 39165 Silktree Drive, Murrieta, spoke in favor of the project. Jeff Rhoades, 1801 Park Court Place, Santa Ana, spoke in favor of option 3B (Floodplain with Levee near Nutmeg Proposed by VTR 23187). Larry Markham, 41750 Winchester Road, Temecula, representing Mr. Jeff Rhoades, stated that Option 2B (Floodway with Levee near Nutmeg proposed by VTR 23187) would also be acceptable to Mr. Rhoades. Minutes\l 2\06\94 -2- 09/02/97 City Council Minutes December 6, 1994 Mr. Kenneth Edwards expressed concern that there will be a problem with permits if the B options are used. Jeannie Gillen, 38160 Ave La Cresta, Murrieta, spoke in favor of the proposal, stating the committee tried to develop the most economical and best alternative by choosing Option No. 2 (Floodway), but expressed interest in purchasing the Floodplain, if federal funding could be utilized. Herb Smith, 42545 Kalmia, Murrieta, spoke in favor of the project. James Marpie, P.O. Box 897, Murrieta, spoke in opposition, requesting that alternatives for retention of water be investigated. Johnny Crusan, 34415 Pauba Road, Temecula, spoke in support of the project and suggested investigating Option 3 (purchase of the Floodplain). Zev Buffman, 40576 Via Herraduna, Murrieta, spoke in support of the project. Stan Smith, P.O. Box 1229, Wildomar, spoke in opposition, stating Wildomar will be left unprotected and suggested the purchase of the entire Floodplain. Andy McEIhinney, P.O. Box 460, Wildomar, spoke in opposition, stating he does not feel it is fair to leave the upper reaches of Murrieta Creek unprotected. Rita Gentry, 37100 Los Alamos Road, spoke in favor of the project and suggested looking into Mr. Marpies' suggestions for the upper reaches North of Tenaja Road. Ray Johnson, 24508 Lincoln, Murrieta, spoke in favor of the project and stated either Option 2A or 3A which both include Floodplain with Levee near Nutmeg would be acceptable. He stated he would not be in favor of the B alternatives which involve cutting through the hillside. Supervisor Bob Buster, P.O. Box 1359, spoke in support of the project, stating it is cost effective and provides 100 year storm protection. It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Councilmember Lindemans to approve the lower reach from Tenaja South as presented by Riverside County Flood Control. Councilmember Mu5oz and Mayor Pro Tern Stone announced they would abstain due to a conflict of interest. Minutes\l 2\06\94 -3- 09~02/97 City Council Minutes December 6, 1994 The motion carried by the following vote: AYES: 3 COUNCILMEMBERS: Lindemans, Parks, Roberts NOES: 0 COUNCILMEMBERS: None ABSENT: 0 COUNCILMEMBERS: None ABSTAIN: 2 COUNCILMEMBERS: Mu6oz, Stone It was moved by Councilmember Walsh, seconded by Councilmember Smith to approve the lower reach from Tenaja South as presented by Riverside County Flood Control. The motion was unanimously carried. Councilmember Parks suggested deferring to Murrieta regarding the Northern reach of Murrieta Creek. It was moved by Councilmember Walsh, seconded by Councilmember Smith to accept the upper reach of Murrieta Creek and direct that negotiations with property owners be conducted to further development. City Manager Steve Harding recommended not taking action on the upper reach until actual cost figures are available. Mayor van Haaster asked if this could be accomplished by the second meeting in January. Mr. Edwards of County Flood Control stated that Options 2A and 2B could be available by that date, however the purchase of the Floodplain is outside of Flood Control's expertise. Mr. Harding stated he would work on obtaining those figures. Councilmember Walsh withdrew his motion. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS Councilmember Parks expressed concern about the delay and suggested moving forward with Option 2A and working with the developer and environmental community to purchase the Floodplain. Councilmember Walsh stated since the Councils do not have information relative to purchasing the Floodplain, he feels it would be better to delay action until January. It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Councilmember Linderoans to approve the minimum staff recommendation (Floodway), and refer Options of developmental approval of levees to the City of Murrieta. Minutes\l 2\06\94 -4- 09/02/97 City Council Minutes December 6. 1994 It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Mayor Pro Tern Stone to adjourn at 8:00 PM. The motion was unanimously carried., CITY MANAGFR'S R!=PORT None given. CITY ATTORN!=Y REPORTS None given. ADJOURNMFNT It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Stone to adjourn at 8:00 PM to a meeting on December 13, 1994, 7:00 PM, Community Recreation Center, 30875 Rancho Vista Road, Temecula, California. The motion was unanimously carried. Ron Roberts, Mayor ATTEST: [SEAL] Minutes\l 2\06\94 -5- 11/07/96