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HomeMy WebLinkAbout020592 CC/PC Jnt. Minutes MINUTES OF A JOINT MEETING OF THE TEMECULA CITY COUNCIL AND THE TEMECULA PLANNING COMMISSION HELD FEBRUARY 5, 1992 A joint meeting of the Temecula City Council and the Temecula Planning Commission was called to order in the Main Conference Room, Temecula City Hall, 43174 Business Park Drive, at 7:05 P.M., Mayor Patricia Birdsall presiding. ROLl CAll Temecula City Council PRESENT: 5 COUNCIL MEMBERS: Lindemans, Moore, Munoz, Parks, Birdsall ABSENT: 0 COUNCILMEMBERS: None Temecula Planning Commission PRESENT: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Chiniaeff ABSENT: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Fahey, Ford, Hoagland Also present were City Manager David F. Dixon, Planning Director Gary Thornhill and City Clerk June S. Greek. PLFDC~!: OF A! LI:GIANC!= The audience was led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Councilmember Karel Linderoans. PUBLIC COMMFNTS None COUNCl! BUSlNgSS 1. General Plan Progress Rel~ort Gary Thornhill reviewed the agenda and provided the Commission and the City Council with an update on the General Plan process. Jim Ragsdell of the Planning Center briefly outlined what has been happening with the General Plan over the past few months and where they are in the General Plan process. Mr. Ragsdell explained that the purpose of the meeting was to review and discuss some urban form alternatives, which will direct the overall growth pattern of the community. Minutea/2/5/92 - 1 - 2108/92 City Council Minutes February 5. 1992 2. Presentation of Alternative Urban Form Concepts Randy Jackson of the Planning Center explained that the intent of the slide presentation was to show some concepts to the Council and Commission, and then discuss how they can be incorporated in the overall growth plan for the community. Commissioner Ford arrived at 7:15 P.M. The slide presentation highlighted the urban core concept and the village center concept. The presentation included examples of good and bad design characteristics in various areas. 3. Discussion of Urban Form Concepts Councilmember Lindemans expressed a concern that what was being presented to the Commission and the Council is not what the citizens have stated they would like to see for the future development of the City. Gary Thornhill said that there are still some large areas within the City that are not developed and the Commission and the Council may want to intensify development in these areas. Commissioner Fahey arrived at 7:45 P.M. Jim Ragsdell said that in terms of the relationship to the concepts that were being presented, and the input that has been received from the citizens, circulation, traffic, intrusion into single family home zones, lack of park and recreation facilities and density, were key issues relayed many times during the meetings. Councilmember Munoz said that what he wanted to hear in the presentation was what could be done with Temecula and how to enhance what is already here. Jim Ragsdell told the Council and Commission that if development continues with no plan, the City will see what they have seen in the past, in terms of growth and design. Gary Thornhill stated that there are still opportunities in the City, especially in the areas of commercial, were some of the ideas presented can be incorporated. He added that the purpose of the meeting is to get direction from the Council and the Commission to take back to the technical subcommittees for further work and refinement. Councilmember Parks stated he feels the City needs to be open to unique planning solutions within the City of Temecula. He added that he felt that the City needs to look at tying residential with shopping and commercial areas through access to the trail system. Minutes/2/5/92 -2- 2/08/92 City Council Minutes February 5. 1992 Commissioner Chiniaeff said that the Planning Center has asked the City Council and the Commission to tell them what direction they wish to go in. The maps and slides were examples and now it is the Council and Commission's turn to give them their opinions. Commissioner Blair stated that she felt one of the objectives should be to preserve some of the unusualness of Temecula. Commissioner Fahey said that the Commission continues to hear projects every two weeks, and the Council and the Commission need to decide on concepts for development to assist with these decisions. Councilmember Munoz stated that it was his opinion that the people of the community do not want the urban core concept, they would rather see the village center concept. Commissioner Fahey said that what the City currently has is a strong urban core developing randomly and what has to be done is to give direction for a combination effect. She added that opportunities are available in future developments to enhance the village center concept and to remedy some of the problem areas that have been developed. Randy Jackson stated that some of the main concerns derived from the community meetings was that there is a lack of parks, trails, and continuity. Councilmember Parks said that with the understanding there are many approved Specific Plans that have not been developed within the City, tying them together with green spaces might get away from the walled community concept. Mayor Birdsall stated many cities that have found having the commercial and residential in the same complex is very convenient and looking forward, this may be an innovative way of looking at our City's alternatives. Councilmember Lindemans said that he liked the garden approach and particularly liked the idea of tying what we have now together with future development. Gary Thornhill asked that the Councilmembers and Commissioners submit their comments and suggestions to him as soon as possible. 4. Policy Regarding Change of 7ones While General Plan Program is in Process Gary Thornhill advised the City Council that a substantial number of re-zones are coming before the Commission and the City Council and re-zoning decisions could compromise some of the issues that have been addressed in the meeting tonight. Commissioner Fahey stated that it is becoming more and more difficult for the Planning Commission to make the findings that projects will be consistent with the future general Minut~a/2/5/92 -3- 2/08/92 City Council Minutes February 5. 1997 plan without specific direction from Council on how the general plan is going to be structured. Councilmember Munoz stated that he would feel more comfortable if the City did not approve any more zone changes until the General Plan process is complete. Larry Markham, 41750 Winchester Road, Temecula, asked if the Planning Director was still accepting zone changes, which Gary Thornhill responded yes to. Councilmember Parks stated that as the City moves further along in the General Plan process, the Planning Commission will be able to see more and more the direction the Plan is going in; however, unless non-conformance can be pointed out, the Commission will have to pass items on to the City Council. 5. Review of Next Joint City Council/Planning Commission Workshoo Gary Thornhill advised that the next joint meeting will be held Wednesday, February 26, 1992, 7:00 P.M. at the Main Conference Room at City Hall. CITY MANAC~;R RIrPORT None CITY ATTORNFY R;PORT None CITY COUNCl; RFPORT Councilmember Lindemans asked that someone check into the hours of the traffic directors. He stated that he had received complaints that their shifts appear to be irregular. Minutes/2/5/92 -4- 2/08/92 City Council Minutes February 5. 1997 ADJOURNM;NT It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Councilmember Lindemans to adjourn at 9:20 P.M. to the next regular City Council meeting on February 11, 1992, 7:00 P.M., Temecula Community Center, 28816 Pujol Street, Temecula, California. The motion was unanimously carried. It was moved by Commissioner Chiniaeff, seconded by Commissioner Blair to adjourn to a special meeting of the Planning Commission on February 24, 1992, 6:00 P.M., at Vail Elementary School, 29915 Mira Loma Drive, Temecula, California. The motion carried unanimously with Chairman Hoagland absent. ATTEST: [SEAL] Minutes/2/5/92 -5- 2/08/92