HomeMy WebLinkAbout042793 CC/Murrieta Jnt. Minutes MINUTES OF A SPECIAL JOINT MEETING
WITH THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
AND THE CITY OF MURRIETA
TUESDAY APRIL 27,1993
A special joint meeting with the Temecula City Council and the Murrieta City Council was
called to order Tuesday, April 27, 1 993, 6:1 0 P.M., at the Temecula Community Center,
2881 6 Pujol Street, Temecula, California, Mayor J. Sal Mufioz presiding.
PRESENT: 5 TEMECULA COUNCILMEMBERS: Birdsall, Parks, Roberts,
Stone, Mufioz
ABSENT: 0 TEMECULA COUNCILMEMBERS: None
PRESENT: 5 MURRIETA COUNCILMEMBERS: Allen, Smith, Walsh,
VanHaaster, Peery
ABSENT: 0 MURRIETA COUNCILMEMBERS: None
Also present were Temecula City Manager David F. Dixon, Murrieta City Manager Jack Smith,
Temecula City Attorney Scott Field, Murrieta City Attorney Naomi Silverglide, Temecula City
Clerk June S. Greek, Murrieta City Clerk Kay Vinson and Recording Secretary Gail Zigler.
INVOCATION
Mayor J. Sal MuFioz gave the invocation.
PRESENTATIONS/
PROCLAMATIONS
Mrs. Ralph Love presented the City of Temecula with an unfinished painting by her husband,
the late Ralph Love, to the City of Temecula.
Mayor J. Sal MuFioz presented the Ralph Love family with a proclamation, proclaiming April
18, 1 993 as Ralph Love Day.
PUBLIC COMMENT
None
NEW BUSINESS
1 .Presentations by U.R.G.E. and the Riverside County Flood Control District -
Channelization Oi)tion for the Murrieta Creek
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Ken Edwards, representing the County Flood Control District, provided an overview of
the County Flood Control Plan process and outlined the plan goals. Mr. Edwards stated
that the recommended project for the Murrieta Creek is a Mitigated Trapezoidal
Channel.
Frank Pierce, Chief Engineer with the County Flood Control District, provided exhibits
on watershed and rainfall durations, peak flow estimates, and discussed concerns with
the URGE alternatives for the creek channel.
Murrieta Councilmember Walsh questioned the time involved in obtaining the 404
permit from the Army Corp of Engineers and completing the improvements to the
Murrieta Creek channel.
Frank Pierce advised that if the process went well, the permit could be issued within
a year, however, it would be several years before the channel would be completed.
Mr. Pierce advised that only one-fifth of the financing is available at this time.
Ken Edwards stated that if the financing was in place, the channel could be built in 3 -
4 years and the project would be built in several phases. Mr. Edwards added that in
order to minimize future flood damage during the process, County Flood Control would
need to maintain the natural stream.
Murrieta Councilmember Allen questioned if the County Flood Control Plan could be
altered.
Ken Edwards advised that changes usually get made through the permit process, not
by the applicant. If the applicant decides to make changes in the application, the
application would need to start the process over again, however if the Army Corp of
Engineers wants to make changes, then the applicant makes these changes and the
process continues.
Mayor Mufioz declared a recess at 8:00 P.M. The meeting was reconvened at 8:25 P.M.
Joseph Phelps, Zone 7 Flood Control Commissioner, advised the Council that the Flood
Control Commissioners review the budget annually and have been recommending work
begin on the Murrieta Creek channel without delay. Mr. Phelps asked that the two
Councils approve a plan to build the Murrieta Creek channel and that the plan best
serve the interest of the citizens of the City of Temecula and the City of Murrieta.
Willie Gale, Chairwoman of U.R.G.E., stated that the U.R.G. E. organizers are concerned
with Riverside County Flood Control District's proposed design for channelization of the
Murrieta Creek. Ms. Gale stated that the U.R.G.E. vision is that the community have
something more than cement blocks as flood control, and the proposed channel design
by Riverside County Flood Control will diminish the quality of life that makes southwest
Riverside County unique.
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U.R.G.E. representatives Willie Gale and Chris LeBrand presented the Mayors of both
Councils with a commemorative plaque acknowledging "Make A Difference Day",
Saturday, November 14, 1 992, where 50 business and 500 residents of both cities
spent the day cleaning the Murrieta Creek.
Ruth Planey, representing U.R.G.E., provided a slide presentation on flood control
alternatives and distributed books by the National Park Service.
Ray Johnson, representing U.R.G.E., presented arguments in opposition to the
Riverside County Flood Control District channelization plan; outlined U.R.G.E.'s
proposed Flood Control Channelization Plan and alternatives; and provided information
on the Southwestern Pond Turtle which may be listed as an endangered species and
will require additional mitigation. Mr. Johnson stated that U.R.G.E. is not requesting
that the permit process be stopped, however, U.R.G.E. would like the two Councils to
direct the County Flood Control Agency to address all the issues raised by U.R.G.E.
Councilmember Walsh asked that the Councils consider proceeding with the County
Flood Control plan and the 404 permit incorporating in that plan accommodations of
U.R.G.E.'s plan for the environmentally sensitive areas.
It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Councilmember Stone to extend
the meeting at 1 0:00 P.M. to 1 1:00 P.M. The motion was unanimously carried by the
Temecula City Council.
It was moved by Mayor Perry, seconded by Councilmember Allen to extend the
meeting at 1 0:00 P.M. to 1 1:00 P.M. The motion was unanimously carried by the
Murrieta City Council.
Mayor Mufioz opened the public hearing at 1 0:00 P.M.
John Bell, representing the Temecula Valley Chamber of Commerce and Hudson RCI,
requested that the two Councils act immediately and approve the Riverside County
Flood Control District's plan.
David Crowder, 27720 Jefferson Avenue, Temecula, representing Rancon Financial,
endorsed Council's approval of the Riverside County Flood Control plan and the 404
application.
Frank Spencer, President of the Old Town Merchants Association, advised that he was
instructed of the O.T.M.A. to send a recommendation of support for the Riverside
County Flood Control plan and support the issuance of the 404 permit.
Bill Harker, 31 1 30-8 5 South General Kearney Road, Temecula, General Manager of the
Temecula Town Association and on behalf of that organization, expressed support of
the Riverside County Flood Control Plan.
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Bob Pipher, 41825 Green Tree Road, Temecula, a building owner in Old Town
Temecula, asked that the Council support the Riverside County Flood Control Plan and
asked that the Council address drudging the creek annually until the channel is
complete to prevent future damage to Old Town from flooding.
Russell Rumansoff, 27349 Jefferson Avenue, Temecula, representing the Temecula-
Murrieta Economic Development Corporation as Chairman of the Expediting Committee,
advised the Councils that there are business along the creek which cannot make any
plans based on the current situation and encouraged the Councils support of the
Riverside County Flood Control Plan.
David Barlett, 2771 1 Diaz Road, Temecula, representing Hudson RCI, expressed a
concern for the potential for a flood disaster if a channel is not built and asked for the
Councils support of the Riverside County Flood Control Plan.
Bonnie Reed, 42050 Main Street, Temecula, expressed her support of the Riverside
County Flood Control Plan.
Trudy Thomas, 41386 Magnolia Street, Murrieta, representing Assemblyman Ray
Haynes - 66th District, read a letter by Assemblyman Haynes supporting the Riverside
County Flood Control Plan. Ms. Thomas advised that Assemblyman Haynes is working
on getting state funding for the construction of the channel.
Francis Ehmann, 4562 Elmdale, Scottsdale, Arizona, expressed support of U.R.G.E.'s
channel design.
Rici Peterson, expressed support of U.R.G.E.'s channel design.
Stephen Boyer, 25205 Via Las Lomas, Murrieta, representing Citizens For Historic
Murrieta, expressed support of the U.R.G.E. plan.
Bill Cosearelli, 391 65 Silktree Drive, Murrieta, representing Murrieta Greenways
Committee, expressed support for the U.R.G.E. plan.
Henry Johnson, 25845 Hayes Avenue, Murrieta, suggested the Councils consider a
plan which would incorporate flood control, recreation and a north/south parkway.
Robert Wheeler, 24280 Washington Avenue, Murrieta, President of the Elsinore-
Murrieta-Anza Resource Conservation District, read from a press release issued on April
22, 1 993 announcing the launching of a joint effort by the committee to contain the
major problem affecting the Santa Margarita River System working in conjunction with
the municipalities, two counties, Camp Pendleton, to minimize storm water runoff from
development sites and the severe erosion that goes with it. Completion is set for a
target date of September 30, 1 993, with two additional months for growth of re-
vegetation and ground cover.
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Vic deforest, 29675 Cantrell Road, Temecula, expressed opposition to the Riverside
County Flood Control District creek design.
Mike Matteson, 41 820 Blett Lane, Murrieta, Second Vice President of Murrieta County
Water District Board of Directors, offered detention/retention programs as a solution
to the problem. Mr. Matteson stated that he was in support of the County Task Force
Flood Control Plan.
Dr. Robert LaRosa, 51 73-1 0 Brighton Avenue, Murrieta, a real estate developer and
Director of The Nature School, stated that he is currently campaigning to have the
Southern Run Steel Head Trout declared an endangered species, and which has been
using local waterways for several years and expressed opposition to the Riverside
County Flood Control District plan.
Pat Keller, 39201 Santas Drive, Murrieta, representing U.R.G.E., asked that the
Councils approve both organizations working together towards a plan for the creek
channel.
John Cruzen, 3441 5 Pauba Road, Temecula, expressed opposition to the plan by
Riverside County Flood Control.
Herb Smith, 42545 Kalmia, Murrieta, expressed support of both organizations working
together to get a plan approved and constructed which addresses both the community
needs and legal obligations.
Supervisor Buster asked the representatives of the County Flood Control District if,
after hearing the concerns regarding water resource and environmental resource, would
it be better for both communities to refine the plan at this level rather than proceed
with a project that minimizes environmental concerns.
Ken Edwards advised that Riverside County Flood Control must address all federal
agencies when applying for the permit and presenting a plan.
Mayor Muiioz declared a break at 1 1:05 P.M. to change the tape. The meeting was
reconvened at 11:07 P.M.
It was moved by Councilmember VanHaaster, seconded by Councilmember Walsh to
extend the meeting at 1 1:00 P.M. to 1 1:30 P.M. The motion was unanimously carried
by the Murrieta City Council.
It was moved by Councilmember Stone, seconded by Councilmember Parks to extend
the meeting at 1 1:00 P.M. to 1 1:30 P.M. The motion was unanimously carried by the
Temecula City Council.
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Councilmember Parks stated that he feels both the Councils need to send a message
of concern to the business owners in their communities by supporting the Riverside
County Flood Control Plan.
It was moved by Murrieta CouncilmemberWalsh, seconded by Murrieta Councilmember
VanHaaster and moved by Temecula Councilmember Parks, seconded by Temecula
Councilmember Birdsall to adopt a resolution in support of the Riverside County Flood
Control District Flood Control Plan with the caveat that the City desires that the parties
work to reach consensus on the recreational and environmental issues raised during the
public input hearings.
RECOMMENDATION:
1.1Adopt a Resolution entitled:
RESOLUTION NO. 93-32
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
SUPPORTINGTHE MITIGATED PLAN FOR MURRIETA CREEK FLOOD CONTROL
PROJECT
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 5 MURRIETACOUNCILMEMBERS: Allen, Smith, Walsh,
VanHaaster, Peery
NOES: 0 MURRIETA COUNCILMEMBERS: None
ABSENT: 0 MURRIETA COUNCILMEMBERS: None
AYES: 5 TEMECULA COUNCILMEMBERS: Birdsall, Parks, Roberts,
Stone, Muiioz
NOES: 0 TEMECULA COUNCILMEMBERS: None
ABSENT: 0 TEMECULA COUNCILMEMBERS: None
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Mufioz declared the meeting adjourned at 1 1:30 P.M.
The next regular meeting of the City of Temecula City Council will be held on Monday, May
1 1, 1 993, at the Temecula Community Center, 2881 6 Pujol Street, Temecula, California.
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The next regular meeting of the City of Murrieta City Council will be held on Monday, May 4,
1993, in City Council Chambers, Murrieta City Hall, 26442 Beckman Court, Murrieta,
California.
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Mayor J. Sa(mufioz/
J@u @. Greek, City Clerk
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