HomeMy WebLinkAbout093092 CC Minutes MINUTES OF A JOINT MEETING
OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD SEPTEMBER 30, 1992
A joint meeting of the City of Temecula City Council and Planning Commission was called to
order Wednesday, September 30, 1992, 6:00 P.M., Temecula City Hall Main Conference Room,
43174 Business Park Drive, Temecula, California. The meeting was called to order by Mayor
Patricia H. Birdsall. Mayor Pro Tern Lindemans led the flag salute.
PRESENT: 5 COUNCIL MEMBERS: Lindemans, Moore, Mu~oz, Parks,
Birdsall
ABSENT: 0 COUNCIL MEMBERS: None
PRESENT: 3 COMMISSIONERS:
Blair, Chiniaeff, Hoagland
ABSENT: 2 COMMISSIONERS:
Fahey, Ford
Also present were City Manager David Dixon and City Clerk June Greek.
Commissioner Ford arrived at 6:05 P.M.
PUBLIC COMM!:NTS
None
COUNCIL BUSINESS
Mark Kramer, 40646 Calle Fiesta, Temecula, representing the Meadowview Homeowners
Association questioned if the City plans to condemn the association common area which the
City's proposed trails master plan enters into. Mr. Kramer advised that the association supports
its own recreation program and provides many amenities for the homeowners. Mr. Kramer
expressed concern that because of the rural environment in Meadowview, bringing the trail
system through the common area would be an invasion of privacy and a security problem for
the residents.
Mr. Kramer also expressed concern regarding the proposed lengthening and widening of North
General Kearney which would separate 75 homes from the association. Mr. Kramer stated that
he would like to see buffering of the proposed roadway and the houses addressed.
1. Introduction and Background
Planning Director Gary Thornhill provided an introduction and background of the
meeting.
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Discussion Regarding General Plan Issues
Senior Planner John Meyer presented a staff report briefly outlining each topic, followed
by Council and Commission discussion as follows:
A. Levels of Service for Police and Fire
Councilmember Parks questioned whether there is a need for increased levels of
service by law enforcement in areas of high density housing.
Police Chief Rick Sayre stated he is comfortable with the service level being
provided.
It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Councilmember Moore to
make no change to the service levels for police and fire.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 5 COUNCIL MEMBERS:
NOES: 0
AYES: 4
NOES: 0
ABSENT: 1
COUNCIL MEMBERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
Commissioner Fahey arrived at 6:15 P.M.
B. Trails Master Plan
Lindemans, Moore,
Parks, Birdsall
None
Blair, Chiniaeff,
Hoagland
None
Fahey
Mu~oz,
Ford,
John Meyer advised that the Parks and Recreation Master Plan Committee
approved the plan on September 29, 1992.
Mayor Birdsall questioned if the concerns expressed by the Meadowview
Homeowners Association have been addressed by the Committee.
John Meyer stated that there were two possibilities discussed: 1) take the trail
system through the common area or 2) take the trail system to the east
paralleling Meadowview.
Commissioner Hoagland supported the conceptual plan for trails, however, was
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not in support of the General Plan containing a map reflecting the conceptual
trail system.
Pat Ommert, 38951 Pauba Road, Temecula, representing the Rancho California
Horseroans Association of Temecula Valley, addressed the Temecula Creek and
expressed the need for a connector through Los Ranchitos to the area of the Pala
Park Site.
Mayor Pro Tern Lindemans stated that the Meadowview Homeowners have their
own trail system and if they do not want the City trail system going through
their common area their wishes should be complied with.
It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Councilmember Moore to
approve the concept of placing the trail system over public or private property,
whichever is most applicable and direct the Master Plan Committee to wait until
completion of the General Plan before establishing specific routes.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES:
4 COUNCIL MEMBERS:
Moore, Mu~oz, Parks, Birdsall
NOES: 1 COUNCIL MEMBERS: Lindemans
AYES:
4 COMMISSIONERS:
Blair, Chiniaeff, Fahey, Ford
NOES: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Hoagland
Mayor Birdsall declared a recess at 7:00 P.M. The meeting was reconvened at 7:10 P.M.
C. Community. Highway and Service Commercial Land Use Policies
Councilmember Parks stated this issue should be approached with the view that the
General Plan does not present a hardship to any property owner.
It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Mayor Pro Tern Lindemans to give
special consideration to property owners who have a hardship due to the land use
designations established in Assessment Districts 159 or 161.
Commissioner Hoagland stated he feels the City should address land uses based on the
needs of the City, and not what effects it has on the property owner.
Commissioner Blair stated she would not support the motion which she feels deals with
specific parcels and the Council and Commission are suppose to be dealing with
concepts.
Councilmember Moore stated she objects to the motion because it addresses a financial
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hardship, not good planning practices.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 4
NOES: 1
AYES: 3
NOES: 2
COUNCIL MEMBERS:
COUNCIL MEMBERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
Land Use Designations in the Chal;)arral Area
Lindemans, Mu~oz, Parks, Birdsall
Moore
Chiniaeff, Fahey, Ford
Blair, Hoagland
Councilmember Parks stepped down due to a conflict of interest.
Bev Stone, 43136 John Warner Road, Temecula, representing the homeowners in the
Chaparral area, supported a designation of very low density.
Tim Oreliana, 30695 Lolita Road, Temecula, stated that he supports the designation of
very low density.
Commissioner Hoagland stated he feels very low density is more appropriate due to the
lack of sufficient infrastructure to support higher densities and recommended that this
be designated as a special study area and establish criteria performance standards.
It was moved by Commissioner Chiniaeff, seconded by Commissioner Hoagland to
designate the Chaparral Area as "very low" density subject to a designated special study
area should be defined by staff and establish performance standards.
Larry Markham, Markham & Associates, 41750 Winchester Road, Temecula, stated that
he feels there are some areas in the Chaparral more suited to higher densities and the
area be defined as low to very low with policies.
Commissioner Blair called for the question, seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Lindemans.
The vote was unanimous with Councilmember Parks abstaining due to a conflict of
interest.
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The motion was carried as follows:
AYES: 4
NOES: 0
ABSTAIN: 1
AYES: 5
COUNCIL MEMBERS:
COUNCIL MEMBERS:
COUNCIL MEMBERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
NOES:
0 COMMISSIONERS:
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Lindemans, Moore, Mu~oz, Birdsall
Fahey, Ford,
None
Parks
Blair, Chiniaeff,
Hoagland
None
Mayor Birdsall declared a recess at 8:25 P.M. The meeting reconvened at 8:35 P.M.
F.
Ho
Fxtension of North General Kearney Road
It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Commissioner Blair to designate
the extension of North General Kearney Road as part of the circulation element and
direct staff to work with the property owners to address the issues of horses and double
frontages.
The motion was carried as follows:
AYES: 4 COUNCIL MEMBERS: Lindemans, Moore, Mu~oz, Parks
NOES: 0 COUNCIL MEMBERS: None
ABSTAIN: 1 COUNCIL MEMBERS: Birdsall
AYES: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Ford
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Chiniaeff, Fahey, Hoagland
Technical Subcommittees and Town Hall Meeting Summaries
Summaries were included in agenda packages.
Additional Topics Raised by Councilmembers or Commissioners
It was moved by Commissioner Blair, seconded by Commissioner Hoagland to schedule
Planning Commission public hearings as follows:
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October 19, 1992, 6:00 - 10:00 P.M., Public Hearing on six elements of the General
Plan
October 26, 1992, 6:00 - 10:00 P.M., Public Hearing to conduct Planning Commission
business
November 2, 1992, 6:00 - 10:00 P.M., Public Hearing on three elements of the General
Plan
November 16, 1992, 6:00- 10:00 P.M., Public Hearing to conduct Planning Commission
business
The motion was unanimously approved.
CITY MANAC-!=R'S R;PORT
None
CITY COUNCIL R!=PORTS
Mayor Birdsall advised of the following events:
* October 2 - 4, Temecula Tractor Race
* October 3, City Golf Tournament
* October 5, CRC Ground Breaking Ceremony
* October 16, Commission Recognition Banquet
pII ANNING COMMISSION REPORTS
None
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ADJOURNM;NT
It was moved by Mayor Pro Tern Lindemans, seconded by Councilmember Parks to adjourn to
a special City Council meeting on October 6, 1992, 7:00 P.M., Temecula Community Center,
28816 Pujol Street, Temecula. The motion was unanimously carried.
It was moved by Commissioner Chiniaeff, seconded by Commissioner Blair to cancel the
Planning Commission meeting of October 5, 1992_ and adjourn to the Planning Commission
meeting of October 19, 1992, 6:00 P.M., Vail Elementary School, 29915 Mira Loma, Temecula.
The motion was unanimously carried.
Patricia H. Birdsall, Mayor
ATTEST:
[SEAL]
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