HomeMy WebLinkAbout072291 CC/PC Jnt. Minutes MINUTES OF A JOINT MEETING
OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE TEMECULA
PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD JULY 22, 1991
A joint meeting of Temecula City Council and Temecula Planning Commission was called to
order in the Performing Arts Room at Temecula Valley High School, 31555 Rancho Vista Road,
Temecula, California at 7:16 PM, Mayor Ronald J. Parks presiding.
PRESENT 4
COUNCILMEMBERS Lindemans, Moore, Munoz,
Parks
ABSENT 1
COUNCILMEMBERS: Birdsall
PRESENT: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Chiniaeff, Fahey,
Hoagland
ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Ford
Also present were City Manager David F. Dixon, Assistant City Manager Mark J. Ochenduszko,
Planning Director Gary Thornhill, City Attorney Scott Field, and City Clerk June Greek.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Howard Reimer, 27600 Sunday Drive, Temecula addressed the need to control the dust being
generated from the Johnson + Johnson project adjacent to Rio Nedo Avenue in the vicinity of
Winchester and Diaz.
Mayor Parks requested that staff refer this matter to the Building and Safety Department.
COUNCIL/COMMISSION BUSINESS
Consideration of Proposed Handbill Ordinance
Chief Building Official Tony EImo presented the staff report.
Councilmember Mu~oz questioned if the ordinance addresses the placing of handbills on
mailboxes. Mr. Elmo responded that it does.
Mayor Parks asked about the provisions for fines and penalties.
Mr. Elmo stated that City staff would always look for voluntary compliance and would
only impose fines and penalties as called out in the ordinance after exhausting all
methods of seeking voluntary cooperation.
Commissioner Chiniaeff questioned if the posting provisions address the tacking up of
signs on trees and electric and telephone poles. Mr. EImo stated that posting of that
sort are considered signs, not handbills, and would be addressed in the sign ordinance.
Linda Cloghen 41304 Bravos Court, spoke in opposition to the proposed ordinance,
stating that many worthwhile, non-profit organizations use this method to disseminate
information. She suggested that provisions need to be added to deal with exemptions
for these kinds of organizations.
Councilmember Lindemans stated he is concerned that this is another form of effective
advertising and in the current economy, the City should be not be prohibiting businesses
from advertising in the most cost-effective manner. He suggested that this be
continued for at least a year.
Councilmember Mu~oz, spoke in favor of exemptions for non-profit organizations and
also for political activities.
Councilmember Moore explained that she requested this type of ordinance be considered
because the incautious placing of handbills on automobiles can cause property damage
to the vehicles as well as causing unsightly litter.
It was moved by Councilmember Lindemans, seconded by Mayor Parks to table
consideration of this matter.
Planning Director Gary Thornhill, in response to a question from Councilmember Moore,
advised that the staff is working on an interim sign ordinance.
Commissioner Steven Ford arrived at 7:35 PM.
Councilmember Mu~oz requested that the motion be amended to continue consideration
rather than table the matter.
Councilmember Lindemans and Mayor Parks withdrew the motion and second.
It was moved by Councilmember Mu~oz, seconded by Councilmember Linderoans to
continue this ordinance consideration for a period of 60 days to allow staff the
opportunity to address the concerns expressed by the Council and Commission.
The motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: 4
COUNCILMEMBERS: Lindemarts, Moore, Mu~oz,
Parks
NOES:
0 COUNCILMEMBERS: None
ABSENT: 1
COUNCILMEMBERS: Birdsall
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2. General Plan Process
Planning Director Gary Thornhill introduced the staff report and outlined the process
required by State statutes for adoption of a general plan. He introduced Susan
DeSantis, of the Planning Center who introduced the members of the consulting team
who will be making presentations during the workshop.
AI Bell, of the Planning Center defined the study area and explained that it was based
on the area of incorporation and the areas in the City's proposed sphere of influence.
He stated that the first stage of strategic planning, "establishing the program approach,
inventories of existing conditions, and identifying and analyzing issues" is the most
important step to be taken. He then explained the seven (7) mandated elements of the
plan.
Mr. Bell outlined the steps in the land use planning phase including developing alternate
plans and selecting the preferred plan. He described the third major step in the process
as the document preparation phase which requires the preparation of an environmental
impact report. The final step he outlined as preparing for and conducting the public
hearings.
Councilmember Lindemans expressed his frustration with having so much prior approval
of projects by the County which does not permit the Council to make changes for the
better.
Commissioner Fahey questioned if the City has the ability to correct any previously
approved land uses.
Commissioner Chiniaeff asked if the City has the ability to use discretion on the ultimate
use of property prior to the adoption of the general plan, or must they approve or
disapprove projects as they come up.
Mr. Bell responded that this is at the option of the Planning Commission and City
Council and they can approve or disapprove projects during the process on the basis of
substantial conformity to the future general plan.
Jim Ragsdale, of the Planning Center spoke regarding the tools the consultants will be
utilizing during the process. He explained that the working notebook, distributed for this
meeting, will be kept up to date and on file in the office of the City Clerk. He also
addressed the guidance package contained in the notebook and requested that the
Commission and Council review this information and make any comments they might
feel appropriate. He also briefly outlined the citizen participation program and the types
of meetings which will be taking place during the process to elicit citizen input.
Councilmember Lindemans asked if a fiscal impact report will be a part of this general
plan process. Mr. Ragsdale responded that a report of this type will be included.
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RECESS
Mayor Parks called a recess at 8:55 PM, the meeting was reconvened at 9:10 PM.
AI Bell explained the preliminary vision statement contained in the workbook. He
pointed out the dimensions of the community vision which will be used in defining the
ultimate community.
Commissioner Blair requested that the Planning Commission be provided with copies of
the City's mission statement.
Mayor Parks suggested altering the agenda to permit the Public Comments portion to
take place at this point rather than at the end of the presentations.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Joe Ashcraft, 40397 Calle Medusa, spoke regarding the traffic and safety problems on
Calle Medusa and asked that these be addressed and corrected by the general plan. He
referred to two maps provided to the meeting participants, labeled Exhibit A and B and
stated that this is no present viable alternative to this street being used as a major
arterial road.
Frank Klein, 30180 Santiago Road, stated that he was speaking as a private citizen and
he addressed the fact that he knew of no action being taken to clean up the creekbed
and homeless problem. He also stated that bike paths are needed and that traffic lights
need to be synchronized. He added that the City's infrastructure is not keeping up with
the demands of its growth, and that the rural character of the community needs to be
preserved. He also spoke in opposition to high density housing, citing increased crime
in these areas and he suggested that this use should be limited to senior citizen
facilities.
Steve Sander, 40213 Holden Circle, also speaking as a private citizen stated that he
welcomes this process and he also discussed the varying demographics figures which
are being reported by various agencies in the valley.
Bob Pipher, 41825 Green Tree Road, addressed the need to establish a rural residential
area along Green Tree in the form of a specific plan for that area.
Bill Perry, 28645 Front Street, addressed the need to prioritize the specific planning of
Old Town. He also encouraged additional public input in the process.
Don Peterson, 29915 Los Nogales, spoke in favor of the City of Temecula and the City
of Murrieta working together to develop their general plans.
Councilmember Mu~oz requested that staff look into the possibility of a joint planning
process with the City of Murrieta.
AI Bell stated that the Planning Center is hoping to establish a partial list of the key
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issues the City Council and Planning Commission want to have them address. He cited
incompatible land uses and rural/suburban development as examples.
Susan DeSantis suggested that the document provided the participants regarding the
vision statement and used in conjunction with the City's mission statement can serve
as the guidelines for the Council and Commission to provide this input to the consultants
in written form.
At the suggestion of Mayor Parks, Mr. Ragland requested that the deadline for providing
this input be August 15, 1991.
ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Councilmember Moore, seconded by Councilmember Mu~oz, to adjourn
the meeting at 10:04 PM, to a regular meeting to be held on Monday, July 23, 1991 at
6:30 PM at the Temporary Temecula Town Center, 27475 Commerce Center Drive,
Temecula, CA 92590. The motion was unanimously carried.
Ronald J. Parks, Mayor
ATTEST:
Clerk
[SEAL]
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