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HomeMy WebLinkAbout091090 PC Special Meeting Minutes MINUTES OF A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA HELD SEPTEMBER 10, 1990 A special meeting of the Temecula Planning Commission was called to order at Vail Elementary School, 29915 Mira Loma Drive, Temecula, California at 6:00 P.M. The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Dennis Chiniaeff. PRESENT: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Ford Hoagland, Chiniaeff ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Fahey Also present were Lois Boback, representative from the City Attorney's office for John Cavanaugh, Gary Thornhill, Acting Planning Director, John Middleton, Senior Project Manager and Gail Zigler, Minute Clerk. PUBLIC COMMENT None COMMISSION BUSINESS 1. MINUTES 1.1 COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF entertained a motion to continue approval of the minutes of August 20, 1990 to the meeting of September 17, 1990, moved by COMMISSIONER FORD, seconded by COMMISSIONER HOAGLAND and carried unanimously. AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Ford, Hoagland, Chiniaeff NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Fahey PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS 2. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2 2.1 Proposal to construct a multi-tenant automotive center with 10,024 square feet of retail area and 21,801 square feet of service area. MIN.9/10/90 -1- September 12, 1990 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES SEPTEMBER 10, 1990 GARY THORNHILL stated that the applicant has reguested that this item be continued to the next regular meeting of the Planning Commission scheduled for September 17, 1990. COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF questioned whether or not to open the public hearing at this time and continue the item to the next meeting or to open the public hearing at the time the item will be brought before the commission. LOIS BOBACK advised the Commission to open the public hearing and continue the item. IDA SANCHEZ, Markham & Associates, 41750 Winchester Road, Temecula, stated that the applicant was in the process of re-designing the project. GARY THORNHILL stated that staff had some concerns with parking and the applicant is addressing those concerns by reducing the size of the buildings and adding some loading spaces. COMMISSIONER FORD moved to continue Conditional Use Permit No. 2 to the September 17, 1990 Planning Commission meeting, seconded by COMMISSIONER HOAGLAND. AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Ford, Hoagland, Chiniaeff NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Fahey At approximately 6:30 P.M. COMMISSIONER FAHEY arrived at the meeting and was no longer absent. 3. TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 25538 3.1 Proposal to subdivide a 1.43 acre parcel on Estero Street into two parcels. DEBORAH PARKS provided the staff report on this item. She stated that the net proposed size of the parcels are within the one-half acre zoning of R/R. She stated that the project is consistent with the Southwest Area Plan and would be consistent with the city's forthcoming General Plan. MIN.9/10/90 -2- September 12, 1990 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES SEPTEMBER 10, 1990 MIKE BENESH, Benesh Engineering, 28991. Front Street, Temecula, representing the applicant, addressed guestions from the Commission. COMMISSIONER HOAGLAND expressed concern that Rancho California Water District was not listed as an agency reguired to give written clearance to the developer under Condition No. 19. JOHN MIDDLETON concurred that Rancho California Water District should be included in the ]~st of agencies under Condition No. 19. COMMISSIONER FORD stated that under SWAP, he understood there was an ordinance requiring parcels under 2 1/2 acres to be fully improved. Staff stated that county standards indicated that parcel maps can be septic systems but tract maps were to be sewered. Commissioner Ford expressed concern in approving the smaller lot sizes without a precise determination on the sewer requirements. COMMISSIONER HOAGLAND asked staff about the Resolution that was included as part of the item and it's relation to the Recommendation which did not include the Resolution. GARY THORNHILL advised the Commission that the Resolution should have been included in the Recommendation. COMMISSIONER HOAGLAND stated that he did not agree with the wording of the Section 1 Finding, No. 2(a). GARY THORNHILL stated that the city attorney's office constructed the Resolution. LOIS BOBACK stated that the Findings are necessary in order to make a Resolution. COMMISSIONER BLAIR moved to close the public hearing, seconded by COMMISSIONER FAHEY and carried unanimously. AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Ford, Hoagland, Chinieaff NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None COMMISSIONER FORD stated that he would like to see the item continued for clarification of the sewer improvement reguirements. COMMISSIONER CHINIEAFF and COMMISSIONER HOAGLAND also expressed concern regarding the improvements. #I~.9/10/90 -3- September 12, 1990 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES SEPTEMBER 10, 1990 COMMISSIONER BLAIR moved to continue Tentative Parcel Map 25538 to the regular meeting o~ the Planning Commission on October 1, ].990, seconded by COMMISSIONER HOAGLAND and carried unanimously. AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Ford, Hoagland, Chiniaeff NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None 4. CONDITIONAI. USE PERMIT NO. 4.1 Proposed C.U.P for an automobile sales lot and 528 sguare feet of office space. OLIVER MUJICA presented the staff report on this item. He stated that the office building is a modular unit on a permanent foundation and the applicant proposes to provide a tile roof and stucco walls. He also advised the Commission that the C.U.P. was being conditioned to come back to the Commission every two years, at a maximum of ten years, for review of C.U.P renewal. In addition, service of vehicles will not be permitted on this site as part of the approval. COMMISSIONER FAHEY expressed concern for the attention to the designated scenic highway along this project and how staff was addressing the view from the highway. MR. MUJICA stated that the improvements to the modular unit were what they had worked out with the applicant. COMMISSIONER HOAGLAND guestioned the reference to recreational vehicles throughout the staff report. GARY THORNHILL advised the Commission to disregard the reference. COMMISSIONER FORD stated that since the applicant was providing a minimum of 22 parking spaces, Condition of Approval No. 5 should reflect a minimum of 22 parking spaces rather than 20 parking spaces as it reads. #I!(.9/10/90 -4- September 12, 1990 PLANNING COI~ISSION MINUTES SEPTEMBER 10, 1990 JIM RAMSAY, applicant, advised the Commission that the site would be the location of a Hyundai dealership and that they would be arranoinq for service at another location. COMMISSIONER HOAGI,AND guestioned the two year review of the C.U.P and asked if the Commission could revoke the C.U.P at any t.~me. LOIS BOBACK from the City Attorney's office stated that every C.U.P is subject to revocation and that possibly the C.U.P could be written with a two year renewal and a maximum of five renewals. JOHN MIDDLETON stated staff's concurrence to this revision of the C.U.P. COMMISSIONER BLAIR moved to deny the issuance of Conditional Use Permit No. 1, and design a more permanent development for this location due to the proximity with regard to the scenic highway frontage, seconded by COMMISSIONER HOAGLAND. COMMISSIONER FAHEY stated that she would like the ].andscape design addressed as well. AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Hoagland, Chiniaeff NOES: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Fahey, Ford 5. PLOT PLAN NO. ].1604 5.] Proposal to construct a 93,735 square foot industrial business park on an approximately 6 acre site. DEBORAH PARKS provided staff's report on this project. She indicated that the project is currently being graded as an extension of Business Park Drive. The project is serviced by two driveways and has allowed for sufficient parking spaces. This project is consistent with other buildings in the business park. COMMISSIONER FORD requested clarification of Condition No. 28, and JOHN MIDDLETON advised that this was a standard Condition. COMMISSIONER FORD suggested that MIN.9/10/90 -5- September 12, 1990 PL~M~INING COMMISSION MINUTES SEPTEMBER 10, 1990 Condition No. 28 be written to read "but are not limited to" in place of "but are not subject to". Staff agreed to this revision. COMMISSIONER HOAGLA~D asked for explanation of Condition No. 52. JOHN MIDDLETON advised that Riverside County designs their storm drains for 100 year capacity as a standard requirement. COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF requested that the existing block wall be continued along the southeasterly side of the property and that the landscaping design be improved along the back of buildings A through E. ID~ SANCHEZ, Markham & Associates, 41750 Winchester Road, Temecu[a, representing the applicant, stated that the mod~t~cat~ons to the Conditions were acceptable. COMMISSIONER BLAIR moved to close the public hearing, seconded by COMMISSIONER HOAGLAND and carried unanimously. AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Ford, Hoagland, Chinieaff NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None COMMISSIONER FAHEY moved to adopt A Negative Declaration and approve Plot Plan 11604 subject to the attached Conditions of Approval including the improvements to the landscape design and extension of the block wall along the easterly property line and the amended wording of Condition No. 28 to say" but not limited to", seconded by CO~4MISSIONER FORD and carried unanimously. AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Fold, Hoagland, Chiniaeff NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None 6. PLOT PLAN NO. 50, AMENDED NO. 1 Proposal to construct a 4,120 sguare foot information center for the Paloma De] Sol Specific Plan on a 3.22 acre site. MI#.9/10/90 -$-- September 12, 1990 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES SEPTEMBER 10, 1990 OI, IYER MUJICA presented the staff report on this item. He stated that the site is located in Planning Area No. 34 which was originally approved for a Day Care Center/ Public/Quasi Public use facility. Staff interprets this as u~e for an informatJona] type center. The applicant, Mesa Homes, has stated that they intend to keep it as a information center for approximately 10 years. Mr. Mujica advised the Commission that the applicant was requesting a decrease in the minimum number of parking spaces requirement. He stated that staff based their calculation for parking requirements on a professional business office use. Mr. Mujica also stated that staff wanted to amend Condition No. 49 to read "and in conformance with Specific Plan No. 219". COMMISSIONER HOAGLAND requested modification of Condition No. 13 to state "all new and existing utilities less than 33KV should be placed underqround"~ and Condition No. 22 to include Rancho California Water District as an approving agency. DEAN MEYER, Project Manager, Mesa Homes, 28765 Single Oak Drive, Temecula, addressed some of the Commission's concerns. Mr. Meyer also asked for clarification of Condition No. 46. JOHN MIDDLETON advised Mr. Meyer that the fee referenced in the Condition was undetermined at this time, therefore the requirement for a minimum $]0,000 deposit, and at such time the fee is established, the fee deposit will be adjusted. COMMISSIONER BLAIR expressed concern with this location as a day care facility due to the impacts on traffic. COMMISSIONER FAHEY moved to close the public hearing, seconded by COMMISSIONER HOAGLAND and carried unanimously. AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Ford, Hoagland, Chiniaeff NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None COMMISSIONER FAHEY stated that she was satisfied with the use as submitted and having the applicant bring it back to the Commission for approval of a change in use. MIN.9/10/90 -?- September 12, 1990 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES SEPTEMBER 10, 1990 COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF auestJoned if an information center would be in conformance with the specific plan. GARY THORNHILL stated that it was zoned R-3 and this type of facility would be permitted. COMMISSIONER FORD expressed concerns for the traffic problems that would be created if this was converted to a day care facility with no street improvements and also where the horse paths lead to and the parking requirements. COMMISSIONER BLAIR moved to continue the item to receive more information regarding the traffic circulation and street improvements, seconded by COMMISSIONER FORD. COMMISSIONER HOAGLAND stated that he would like to see the overalll plan for the eguestrian trail for the project. COMMISSIONER FORD added that he would like to see more information regarding the proposed entry sign (i.e. (implementation, scale and dimensioned) since this is part of the request for approval. COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF agreed with the overall concerns regarding traffic circulation and street improvements. GARY TI~ORN~ILL recommended that the item be continued 30 days or off calendar and re-notice the public hearing. COMMISSIONER BLAIR moved to continue the item off calendar and re-notice the public hearing, seconded by COMMISSIONER FORD. AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Ford, Hoagland, Chiniaeff NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None RECESS CHAIRMAN DENNIS CHINIAEFF declared a five minute recess at 7:55 P.M. The meeting was reconvened at 8:00 P.M. 7. TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 25443 7. L Proposed 105 unit condominium subdivision of 7.31 acres. MI)1.9/10/90 -8- September 12, 1990 PLANNING CONNISSION NINUTES SEPTENBER 10, 1990 OLIVER MUJICA presented the staff report for this item. He stated that this was previously approved as Tentative Tract 23211, by the County, to establish a 128 unit condominium development. The item went before the City Council for an extension of t~me, and the Council expressed concern regarding the density of this project. The Council ~ranted the extension of time subject to the condition that the project not exceed 16 units per acre. He stated that the applicant had reduced the development to ].4.5 units per acre. He also advised the Commission that the applicant was proposing 263 parking spaces which he understood would be acceptable under County standards; however, staff's calculations for parking indicated a reguirement of 269.75 spaces. Mr. Mujica stated that the developer had upgraded the units in sguare footage and provided for recreational areas for the property owners. COMMISSIONER FAHEY requested clarification of the density requirement of the project. GARY THORNHILL advised that the project was given an extension of time on the original approval subject to the condition that the project did not exceed 16 units per acre however they had one year to record the final map on the original approval. COMMISSIONER FORD asked staff if the applicant was aware of the reference to the project being gated. MR. MUJICA stated that the applicant had indicated that the project would be gated and that they could include that as a condition. COMMISSIONER FAHEY stated that homeowners in the surrounding area expressed a desire for some type of consistency to the appearance of these types of projects and asked if this project could be conditioned for future development along that corridor. GARY THORNHILL stated that design standards would be city guidelines and that this project could not be conditioned to establish these guidelines. COMMISSIONER FORD guestioned the block wall reguirement. MR. MUJICA stated that staff would be amending Condition No. 13 (E) to read "and along Margarita Road" instead of Via La Vida. MIN.9/10/90 -9- September 12, 1990 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES SEPTF~BER 10, 1990 COMMISSIONER HOAGLAND expressed his concern for the single access into the project and how it affects fire and safety protection. MR. MUJICA stated that there is a reguirement for secondary access and they have re~uested that the developer obtain an agreement from t.he adjacent property owner for this access. He advised that both property owners were working together to provide the fire and safety protection requirements. Commissioner Hoag]and also addressed the developers participation in the funding for parks. GARY THORNHILL stated that Condition No. 18 covers the fees for parks and recreation. COMMISSIONER BLAIR asked Jf staff had done any studies on the saturation of condominium housing in the city. GARY THORNHII,I, stated that this data is part of the study being conducted for land use inventory and upon completion of the study the Planning Department would have a better idea of the degree of saturation of this type of development. He stated that the study whou]d be completed at the beginning of October. Commissioner Blair also expressed concern for the grading of this site as it relates to the overall grading being done in the city. Mr. Thornhill stated that there are no guidelines established at this time regarding grading. GARYMARTIN, 30601Cabrillo Street, Temecula, developer of the project, discussed the design of his project. He added that in working with the City Council to develop a desireable project while addressing their concerns, he volunteered to reduce the project to 14.5 units per acre. He stated again that he feels the proposed 263 parking spaces is adequate for the proposed number of units. Mr. Martin requested the following modifications to Findings in the Staff Report and to Conditions of Approval: Finding No. 11 amended to read "must be in accordance with FEMA"i Condition No. 35 amended to read "prior to the grading plan being approved and street improvement plan and final map being substantially completed."; Condition No. 60 amended to read "shall be designed by a registered civil engineer"; and Condition No. 61 amended to read "Provide in-street plans and conduit for future interconnect routing". MIN.9/10/90 -10- September 12, 1990 PLANNING CO~4I$SION MINUTES SEPT~BER 10, 1990 COMMISSIONER FORD asked Mr. Martin if they were in fact gating this development. MR. MARTIN stated that they would be putting Jn a hate. GARY THORNIIII, L stated that staff was not looking at this as a gated project and may have some concerns w.~th traff]c safety. SAL MUNOZ, 41823 Humbert Drive, Temecula, expressed his objection to the high-density development of the corridor which this project is located in, traffic problems Jn this area, erosion of natural landscape and the need for each development to support itself J~n the needs of parks and recreation area for the property owners rather than paying fees to create these areas. MR. M~RTIN stated that the development did address the needs of recreation within the project by including a pool and spa area as we][[ as two tot lots. COMMISSIONER FAHEY expressed concern for approving this project w~thout the forthcoming ]and use and map studies. COMMISSIONER BLAIR expressed concerns for the lack of sufficient park and recreation space in the project and the impacts another high density project such as this, would have on the already over-populated schools. COMMISSIONER FORD stated that he felt the developer has looked at the needs of the co~unity and attempted to provide the necessary recreation areas within the project. Commissioner Ford also expressed concern for the parallel parking and access of the project. COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF a]so expressed concern for emergency vehicle access in the project. He suggested that the trash bins be relocated to make them more accessible. He also expressed concern for the potential traffic problem that may be created at the gated entrance and for landscape design along Margarita Road. COMMISSIONER FAIiE¥ moved to continue the item to the October 15, 1990 Planning Commission meeting, to address the issues of parkJ. ng, turn-around locations for trash trucks and landscape and design of the Margarita Road frontage, seconded by COMMISSIONER BLAIR. MIN.9/10/90 -11- September 12, 1990 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES SEPTEMBER ]0, 1990 AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Chiniaeff NOES: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Ford, Hoagland NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS 8. SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE NO. 2, TO SPECIFIC PLAN NO. 164 8.]. Proposal to delete the Class 1 bike trail which traverses the park and open space area located adjacent to residential planning area no. 4 of the Roripaugh Estates Specific Plan. GARY THORNHILL stated that issues had arisen that warrant the continuance of this item and recommended that the Commission open the public hearing and continue the item to October 1, ].990. COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF opened the public hearing and entertained a motion to continue the item. DAVE JAMES, Ranpac Engineering, 27447 Enterprise Circle West, Temecula, stated his concurrence with staff to continue thi. s item to the meeting of October 1, 1990. COMMISSIONER FAHEY moved to continue Item 8 to the meeting of October ], 3990, seconded by COMMISSIONER FORD. AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Ford, Chiniaeff NOES: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Hoagland DISCUSSION ITEMS 9. OTHER BUSINESS 9.]. COMMISSIONER HOAGLAND guestioned the order which the Commission is seeing the Substantial Conformance items and questioned the time frame for completion of the General Plan. COMMISSIONER BLAIR expressed concern for the completion of the Genera] Plan as well. MIM.9/10/90 -12- September 12, 1990 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES SEPTEMBER 10, 1990 COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF asked that the Commission look at the size of the compact car spaces being submitted in the proposals and determine i~ they feel that these dimensions are acceptable. ADJOURNMENT COMMISSIONER CHINIAEFF entertained a motion to adjourn the meeting at 9:40 P.M. COMMISSIONER HOAGLAND moved to adjourn the meeting, seconded by COMMISSIONER FORD and carried unanimously. Next scheduled meeting to be held Monday, September 17, 1990, 6:00 P.M. at Vai3 Elementary School, 99935 Mira I,oma Drive, Temecula. Secretary F._~B~nnis Chiniaeff, Chai~.~ MIN.9/10/90 -13- September 12, 1990