HomeMy WebLinkAbout030496 PC MinutesMINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
PLANNING COMMISSION
MARCH 4, 1996
A regular meeting of the City of Temecula Planning Commission was called to
order on Monday, March 4, 1996, 6:00 P.M., at the Rancho California Water
District's Board Room, 42135 Winchester Road, Temecula, California. Co-
Chairman Linda Fahey called the meeting to order.
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
Webster, Miller, Fahey, Slaven
None
Also, present were Community Development Director Gary Thornhill, Planning
Manager Debbie Ubnoske, Senior Planner John Meyer, and Principal Engineer
Steve Cresswell.
PUBLIC COMMFNTS
None given.
Approval of Agenda
Planning Manager Debbie Ubnoske requested an additional item be
placed on the agenda. Add (b) to item #8 Approval of Alcohol
License for: The Shell Station.
The motion carried as follows:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS: None
COMMISSIONERS: None
AYES: 4
NOES: 0
ABSENT: 0
COMMISSION BUSINESS
Miller, Webster, Slaven, Fahey
Co-Chairman Fahey stated that since this is a large agenda and there
are several requests to speak, modifications to the agenda would be:
Item #14 would be heard as Item #1; Item #15 would be heard by
7:30 PM.
It was moved by Commissioner Slaven and seconded by Commissioner Miller to
approve the agenda as modified.
The motion carried as follows:
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AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Miller, Webster, Slaven, Fahey
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
2. Oath of Office - Rich Soltysiak
Co-Chairman Fahey welcomed Rich Soltysiak to the Commission. She
stated the Oath of Office would be delayed pending the arrival of City
Clerk June Greek.
Appointment of a New Chairperson
Commissioner Slaven nominated Commissioner Fahey to serve as Chairman
seconded by Commissioner Miller, the vote was taken for appointment.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS:
Miller, Webster, Slaven,
Fahey
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
Appointment of a New Co-Chairperson
Commissioner Fahey nominated Commissioner Slaven as Co-Chairman seconded
by Commissioner Webster, the vote was taken for appointment.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Miller, Webster, Slaven,
Fahey
NOES:
0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
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4. Approval of Minutes from the November 6, 1995 Planning
Commission Meeting
The motion was made by Commissioner Miller, seconded by Commissioner Slaven
to approve the minutes of November 6, 1995, with the following modifications:
Item #5 and Item #6 - add Commissioner Slaven to an AYE vote and delete her as
absent; On page 3. Item 4 Change to exit locations to West Drive in and Fast drive
out.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS:
Miller, Webster, Slaven,
Fahey
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
Plant/Tree Species List
Senior Planner John Meyer presented the list of approved plants and
trees for the Temecula area.
MARCH 4, 1996
Appointment of a Representative to Serve on the Sign Ordinance Committee
It was duly moved and seconded to appoint Commissioner Miller as
the representative to the Sign Ordinance Committee.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Webster, Slaven, Fahey,
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: I COMMISSIONERS: Miller
Appointment of a Representative to Serve on the Joint
Temecula/Murrieta Traffic Committee
Chairperson Fahey requested that this appointment be acted on later
on the agenda.
A. Director's Hearing Case Update Report
None given.
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2. Oath of Office - Rich Soltysiak
City Clerk, June Greek, administered the oath of office to newly
appointed Commissioner Rich Soltysiak.
7. Appointment of a Representative to Serve on the Joint
Temecula/Murrieta Traffic Committee
Rich Soltysiak was appointed to serve as the representative to the
Joint Temecula/Murrieta Traffic Committee by unanimous consensus.
8. B. Approval of Alcohol license for:
1. Hog Wild (PA96-0001)
Senior Planner John Meyer presented the staff report.
Chairperson Fahey opened the public hearing at 7:00 PM.
Elliot Urlich, 37671 Van Gale Lane, Murrieta, represented the
applicant and stated that the allowable hours for the sale of alcohol is
6:00 AM to 2:00 AM, 7 days per week. He also stated that the name
Hog Wild would be changed to either the Long Branch or the Long
Horn Saloon. No games or game boards.
Assistant City Attorney Greg Diaz informed the Commission of the
criteria used to determine the request for the sale of alcohol.
It was moved by Commissioner Slaven and seconded by Commissioner Webster to
approve the Alcohol License for the Hog Wild Saloon.
Commissioner Fahey expressed opposition to this project as it does
not meet a convenience for the community.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Miller, Slaven, Webster, Soltysiak
NOES: I COMMISSIONERS: Fahey
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
2. Sports Grill (PA95-0123)
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Senior Planner John Meyer presented the staff report.
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The applicant was not in attendance to answer questions.
It was moved by Commissioner Slaven and seconded by Commissioner Miller to
continue this request to March 18, 1996.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS:
NOES: 0
ABSENT: 0
3. Shell Station
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
Miller, Slaven, Soltysiak,
Webster, Fahey
None
Senior Planner John Meyer presented the staff report.
Larry Markham, 41750 Winchester Road, representing the applicant,
stated the requested hours for alcohol sales are 6:00 AM. to 2:00
AM.
Commissioner Soltysiak asked how critical is approval for the alcohol
license to the project.
Larry Markham responded this was a necessary component of the
application.
Commissioner Slaven expressed opposition to the concept that
service stations could not sell gas without selling alcohol.
Commissioner Miller spoke in support of this application stating he feels it is
monumentally unfair not to give Shell an equal footing with the other service
stations.
Commissioner Fahey expressed opposition to the concept that there is not a
need for public necessity and/or convinces and cannot make a finding.
Commissioner Webster spoke in support of this application stating he
feels this meets criteria for public convenience for the one-stop
shopping for alcohol and gas.
Commissioner Slaven expressed concern on the tentative hours of
sale and commented that other service stations have restricted hours.
Commissioner Fahey recommended that the hours be conditioned
when the Conditional Use Permit is heard by the Commission.
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It was moved by Commissioner Miller and seconded by Commissioner Webster to
approve the Shell Station:
The motion carried as follows:
AYES:
3 COMMISSIONERS:
Miller, Webster, Soltysiak
NOES:
2 COMMISSIONERS:
Slaven, Fahey
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
14.
Planning Application No. PA96-0019 (?oning Amendment. Specific
Plan) and Planning Application No. PA96-0070 (General Plan
Amendment) "Temeku"
Associate Planner Matthew Fagan presented the staff report.
Commissioner Webster requested clarification of the five-year cycle
for the housing element.
Assistant City Attorney Greg Diaz responded that the cycle had been
delayed from 1993 due to lack of funds. Although the State can mandate
cities compliance with certification of housing entitlements even without
providing funds.
Commissioner Slaven recommended the accounting for this
certification be kept in-house.
Planning Manager Debbie Ubnoske responded that this was a good idea and
staff could start doing so the process.
Commissioner Soltysiak expressed concern for the congestion impact
on parks and schools due to this project. Planner Fagan responded
that park provisions are included in the project and also Quimby fees
will be required.
Community Development Director Thornhill stated that the Temecula
School District has an internal agreement providing mitigation on this
project. He also stated that a subsequent application will be heard by
the Commission.
Chairman Fahey opened the Public Hearing at 7:00 PM
Barry Burnell, 3242 Halladay Street Santa Ana, T & 13 Planning
Consultants, representing McMillin Project Services, Inc., urged
approval of this project.
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Dennis O'Neil, 19900 MacArthur Blvd, Irvine, spoke as legal counsel
for the applicant, and stated he would answer any questions.
Samuel C. Alhadeff, 27555 Ynez Road, spoke in opposition to the
project and presented correspondence from the seller to indicate the
litigation now taking place.
Joseph R. Shekoski, Jr., 31999 Vineyard Avenue, spoke in opposition
to a change in zoning. He is against the construction of apartment
buildings.
James H. Hunter, 2727 Hoover Avenue, National City, representative
for the applicant, spoke in support of this project and stated that this
approval is needed to close escrow. He also stated that he was
available to answer any questions.
Dennis O'Neil, 19900 MacArthur BIvd, Irvine, explained the deed
restriction for senior housing and stated that the court ordered
responsibility would be upheld and worked out before it is heard by
the City Council.
The Public Comments were closed at 7:25 PM.
It was moved by Commissioner Slaven and seconded by Commissioner Miller to
approve Planning Application No. 96-0019 and Planning Amendment No. PA96-
0020.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 5
COMMISSIONERS:
Miller, Slaven, Soltysiak,
Webster, Fahey
NOES:
0 COMMISSIONERS:
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
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Planning Application No. PA96-0024 (Revised Permit-Master
Conditional Use Permit: PA94-0061). Planning Application No. PA96-
0025 (Revised Permit-Westside Specific Plan: PA95-0003). Planning
Application No. PA96-0026 (Revised Permit-Tentative Tract Map No.
98011: PA95~0004) - Old Town Redevelopment Project
Principle Engineer Steve Cresswell, presented the staff report. He
stated that approval could reduce costs for the city as well as the
applicant..
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Commissioner Slaven asked why Rancho California Road, Winchester
Road and Overland Crossing would all be under construction at the
same time.
Community Director Thornhill responded that because of changes on
the Council, priorities were being considered. The Council ordered a
study on the construction priority and timeline. He also stated that
the Rancho California Road construction completion date is 12-13
months; Highway 79 interim improvements, including the Western-By-
Pass beginning in 5-6 months; and the connection to Front Street will
be completed in 12-13 months.
Commissioner Soltysiak asked if the condition in Issue #2 included
the requirement to pay the fair share. Engineer Cresswell responded
that CIP fees are to be used and also development fees.
Chairman Fahey opened the Public Hearing at 7:55 PM
Mike Scofield, 28601 Front Street, expressed concern with the
probable excessive traffic during the Rancho California Road
construction. He stated Front Street needs to be widened and
the Buffman Project is completed the traffic will be worse.
when
Karl Henning, 28713 Pujol Street, spoke as the owner of the property
on Pujol north of Main Street. He expressed concern with the grading
elevations for the Entertainment Center. He stated that he did not
intend to have the construction go down Pujol and encouraged the
Council and the Planning Department to confer with him as he could
stop this project.
Kay Cassaro, 31616 Paseo Goleta, spoke in opposition to deleting the
condition on the Rancho California Road completion prior to the
Entertainment Center. She stated our first priority should be traffic
issues, not the Entertainment Center.
Albert S. Pratt, 40470 Brixton Cove, representative of TOTAL, spoke
in opposition to the Revised Permit-Master Conditional Use Permit
because it is not consistent with Old Town Environmental impacts. He
requested copies of all engineer drawings, cost estimates, proposals
between the applicant and the City of Temecula. He stated the
spending by the City for one project was not right. He read from
correspondence he distributed to the Commission.
The Public Hearing was closed at 8:10 PM.
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Community Director Thornhill stated that he is confident the Highway
79 issues would work themselves out.
Commissioner Fahey asked if more thought was given to the traffic
on Rancho California Road and expressed concern about making a
decision without more information.
Commissioner Soltysiak spoke in support of these requests while
recommending an amendment to include "Prior to issuance of building
permits". He also expressed confusion on Issue //2 due to the timing
of the Overchange improvements.
Planner Dave Hogan responded with clarification on the project
issues.
Commissioner Miller spoke in support of Issue //1 and in opposition to
Issue//2, he recommended grading be permitted, with the condition
the map be recorded prior to issuance of the building permit.
It was moved by Commissioner Miller and seconded by Commissioner Webster to
approve Planning Application No.96-0024 (Revised Permit-Master Conditional Use
Permit: PA94-0061), Item 2, Issue #1.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 5
COMMISSIONERS:
Miller, Webster,
Soltysiak, Slaven, Fahey
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
Planner Dave Hogan informed the Commission of the original proposal
where traffic from the Entertainment Center would travel Front Street
to HWY 79 and Rancho California Road would not be involved, and
therefore mitigation would not be necessary.
Principal Engineer Cresswell stated that the original timing of the
construction is the responsibility of the Public Works Department,
which had been changed. He recommended this responsibility could
be returned to the Public Works Director and the timing for
construction would be given by the Council.
Commissioner Slaven expressed concern with Condition //83 - which
states "the following improvements completed prior to occupancy".
There will be considerable impact to the citizens of Temecula because
of the construction on Rancho California Road. She stated that there
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comes a time to say no when it is in one project's interest and we
need to take care of the citizenry of Temecula.
Commissioner Fahey agreed with Commissioner Slaven.
Commissioner Miller expressed concern with the confusion between
the Commission and the staff.
Commissioner Soltysiak supported the issue that the Entertainment
Center pay their fair share of the improvements.
Commissioner Miller spoke in support of the concept and
recommended improvements be completed prior to occupancy.
Development Director Thornhill recommended this item be continued
to March 18, in order to clarify all conditions for the Commission.
It was moved by Commissioner Slaven to deny PA96-0024, PA96-0025, PA96-
0026 Issue #2, seconded by Commissioner Fahey.
The motion failed by the following vote:
AYES: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Fahey, Slaven
NOES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Webster, Miller, Soltysiak
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
It was moved by Commissioner Miller, and seconded by Commissioner Webster, to
continue PA96-0024, PA96-0025, PA96-0026 Issue #2 to March 18, 1996.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS:
NOES: I COMMISSIONERS:
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS:
Chairperson Fahey called a recess at 8:45 PM.
The meeting was reconvened at 8:50 PM.
Miller, Fahey, Webster,
Soltysiak
Slaven
None
Chairperson Fahey requested that due to limited time Item 9 - Planning Application
No. 95-0125 and Item 13 - Planning Application No. PA96-0003 (Tentative Tract
No. 28309) be continued to March 18, 1996.
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A consensus of the Commission was taken and the amended agenda and
continuance of these items were approved.
12. Planning Application No. 96-00?7 (Zoning Amendment, Specific Plan)
A request to speak was filed on Item 12. The Commission will hear this comment
but will not act due to the lateness of the hour.
Public Comment opened to the floor at 8:55 PM.
Robert House, 32175 Plaza Bel Air, spoke in opposition to the project
as proposed. He stated originally 600 homes were planned when this
project was abandoned. This builder could also abandon the project
leaving the east and west perimeters vacant. He recommended that
common areas be complete prior to the issuance of permits.
10. Planning Application No. PA95-0140, (Rancho Baptist Church)
Senior Planner John Meyer presented the staff report.
Public Comment opened to the floor at 9:10 PM.
Mike, pastor of the Rancho Baptist Church, spoke to request approval
of the temporary buildings being deemed permanent.
Commissioner Webster requested the specific requirements the wall.
Commissioner Miller asked about the location of restrooms and if the
air-conditioning units could be made less conspicuous.
Pastor Mike, responded that the wall is 530' and is painted grey. He
also responded that the air-conditioning units were similar to other
temporary buildings in the area and restrooms are located in building
A.
Victor Jones, 44255 Cabo Street, shared photos of the view from his
home of the temporary buildings at the church. He spoke in
opposition to the request to make these buildings permanent because
they are not compatible with the area.
Commissioner Webster asked if additional landscaping would solve
this problem. Mr. Jones responded that it would not.
It was moved by Commissioner Slaven and seconded by Commissioner Miller to
deny the reversal of conditions of approval to allow temporary modular buildings
to become permanent and directed the applicant to return with landscape plans
and permanent building plans.
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The motion failed as follows:
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AYES:
2 COMMISSIONERS:
Slaven, Miller
NOES: 3
COMMISSIONERS:
Webster, Fahey,
Soltysiak
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
It was moved by Commissioner Webster and seconded by Commissioner Miller to
continue this item off calendar. Community Development Director Thornhill
requested a maximum timeframe. The Commission agreed on a two month
timeline.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 5
COMMISSIONERS:
Webster, Fahey,
Soltysiak, Slaven, Miller
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS:
None
11.
Planning application No. PA95-0138. Conditional Use Permit, (Shell
Station)
Senior Planner John Meyer presented the staff report. He stated that
additional landscaping had been added to the plan.
Chairperson Fahey called for public comments at 10:02 PM.
Larry Markham, 41750 Winchester Road, representing the applicant,
requested the following modifications to the use permit: deletion of
parking space #10; deletion of Condition #14, the tile roof; and if the
hours of sale of alcohol are to be conditioned, he requested 6:00 am
to 12:00 midnight.
Chairman Fahey closed the public comments at 10:20 PM.
It was moved by Commissioner Slaven and seconded by Commissioner Miller to
approve PA95-0138, Conditional Use Permit (Shell Station) with the following
modifications: Delete Condition #14, the tile roof is not required; Delete parking
space #10; evergreen landscaping along the eastern elevation of the building to
create an additional screen from the retail space; and the time limit on alcohol
sales is 6:00 AM to Midnight.
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The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS:
NOES: 0
ABSENT: 0
MARCH 4. 1996
Miller, Slaven, Webster,
Fahey, Soltysiak
COMMISSIONERS: None
COMMISSIONERS: None
It was moved by Commissioner Slaven and seconded by Commissioner Miller to
continue Items 9, 10, 12, and 13 to March 18, 1996.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS:
NOES: 0
ABSENT: 0
DIRECTOR'S REPORT
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
Miller, Fahey, Webster,
Slaven, Soltysiak
None
None
Planning Manager Debbie Ubnoske reminded the Commission of the
League of California Cities Workshop.
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Commissioner Miller expressed concern on the time limit for speakers
addressing the Commission. He reiterated it should be enforced at
the three minute limit.
The next meeting of the City of Temecula Planning Commission is scheduled for
March 18, 1996 6:00 P.M. at Rancho California Water District's Board Room,
42135 Winchester Road, Temecula, California.
ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Commissioner Slaven and seconded by Commissioner Miller to
adjourn the meeting at 10:30 PM.
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