HomeMy WebLinkAbout120197 PC MinutesMINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
PLANNING COMMISSION
DECEMBER 1, 1997
CALL TO ORDER
The City of Temecula Planning Commission convened in a regular session at 6:01 P.M., on
Monday, December 1, 1997, in the City Council Chambers of Temecula City Hall, 43200
Business Park Drive, Temecula, California.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Commissioners Miller, Slaven, Soltysiak, and Chairwoman Fahey.
Absent:
Commissioner Guerriero.
Also Present:
Planning Manager Ubnoske,
Principal Engineer Parks,
Attorney Curle¥,
Senior Planner Hogan.
Associate Planner Fagan, and
Minute Clerk Ballreich.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Chairwoman Fahey advised that although the Planning Commission will be considering the
continuation of Agenda Item No. 4 (Recreational Vehicle Storage), public input would be
welcomed.
For Ms. Betty Condren, 40741 Calle Katerine, it was clarified by Chairwoman Fahey that the
City Council had requested that the matter be addressed by staff and the Planning Commission;
that a staff recommendation be made to the Planning Commission for review and public input;
and that the Planning Commission would then be making a recommendation to the City Council
for review and public input.
Planning Manager Ubnoske advised that the City Council has requested that the City's Code
Enforcement Officers not pursue any action at this time with regard to recreational vehicles
stored on private property. She noted that any recreation vehicles, boats, etc. stored on streets
will fall under the 72-hour parking law, which will continue to be handled by the Police
Department, and that this portion of the Code will not be amended.
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COMMISSION BUSINESS
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Commissioner Slaven moved for the approval of the December 1, 1997, agenda with
the continuation of Agenda Item No. 4. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Soltysiak
and voice vote of those present reflected unanimous approval (Commissioner Guerdero absent).
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - OCTOBER 20, 1997
MOTION: Commissioner Slaven moved for the approval of the October 20, 1997, minutes as
written. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Soltysiak and voice vote of those present
reflected unanimous approval (Commissioner Guerriero absent).
3. DIRECTOR'S HEARING UPDATE
None given.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
4. PLANNING APPLICATION NO. PA97-0349
Planning Commission consideration to repeal Section 17.24(D){1)(f) of the
City's Development Code pertaining to Recreational Vehicle (RV) Storage in
residential areas.
This Agenda Item has been continued (see motion above).
5. PLANNING APPLICATION NO. PA97-0348
Planning Commission consideration to amendment the City's Development
Code pertaining to permitted uses for granny flats and guest houses, parking
standards for multi-family units, second units, granny flats, and guest houses
in residential areas and adding a definition of guest house.
RECOMMENDATION
To recommend approval based on the analysis contained in the staff report.
Associate Planner Fagan provided the staff report (as per written material of record),
highlighting the recommended amendments, which included "Schedule of Permitted Uses" and
"Parking Spaces Required." In response to the Commissioners, Mr. Fagan advised that a
covered parking space would be considered a carport, not an enclosed garage; that an
uncovered parking space would be considered a driveway; that a phone survey, conducted by
staff, reflected that multi-family housing does not have a vacancy problem throughout the City;
that existing multi-family housing projects indicated no problem with regard to insufficient
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parking spaces; that granny flats and guest houses will only be permitted for single-family
residences; that in order to construct a granny flat and/or guest house, specific design criteria
must be met; that it would be staff's intent to require one separate, uncovered parking space,
not including the driveway, for the granny flat; and that there are specific Code requirements
with regard to parking spaces and the construction of them.
Commissioner Miller suggested that staff's intent to require one separate, uncovered parking
space for the granny flat should be clearly reflected in the Ordinance. Mr. Miller expressed
concern with the enforceability of the Community Development Director's ability to waive the
requirement of one uncovered parking space for the granny flat in the event the current resident
of the flat were not a licensed driver.
Attorney Curley clarified that the verbiage for "Schedule of Permitted Uses" is existing in the
Code, noting that staff is proposing the addition of the Table (as per staff report). With regard
to the application for a granny flat/guest house, Mr. Curley advised that the applicant must be
able to meet all building requirements, noting that such developments would primarily be
restricted to single-family units. Mr. Curley advised that State law clearly distinguishes between
a guest house and a granny flat, noting that more restrictions are imposed on the granny flat.
With regard to how these Code amendments impacted a previously approved, multi-family
project, Commissioner Slaven expressed concern with the reduction of covered parking spaces
by 190 and with an overall parking space reduction of 78 spaces. Although not applicable to
this request, Commissioner Slaven questioned how these parking space reductions impacted
the design of this previously approved, multi-family project.
In response to Commissioner Slaven, Project Planner Donahoe advised that the Spanos
Apartment Project added additional handicapped parking spaces in order to meet the ADA
requirements but noted that the design of the previously approved project did not change in
terms of buildings, parcels, and square footage. She further clarified that the reduction in
parking spaces (190) was disbursed throughout the site and not all in one area; and that some
ADA parking spaces are covered as required and some are uncovered.
In light of the attorney's input and because of the potential conflict with a client's property,
Commissioner Miller noted that he would be abstaining with regard to this issue.
At this time, Chairwoman Fahey opened the public hearing. No comments were received.
Commissioner Slaven noted that, in her opinion, the reduction of internal parking spaces for
multi-family projects would not be in the best interest of the City. With regard to the granny
flats, she, echoed by Chairwoman Fahey, expressed concern as to the enforceability of the
Community Development Director's ability to waive the requirement for one uncovered parking
space in the event the resident did not possess a driver's license. Therefore, Commissioner
Slaven stated that an applicant should be required to provide the necessary parking
requirements independent of the resident's driving status.
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Because a granny flat would be a permanent structure and because such a structure could be
converted to a student flat, Commissioner Slaven reiterated her desire to require the applicant
of such a request to provide the required amount of parking independent of driving status.
Following Commission discussion, it was the consensus of the Commission to strike, because
of lack of enforceability, the provision allowing the Community Development Director to waive
the requirement of one uncovered parking space for a granny flat, dependent on the resident's
driving status.
Planning Manager Ubnoske suggested that additional clarification be provided, by way of
verbiage in the Code, relative to granny flat parking requirements, ensuring that the required
parking spaces are in addition to the parking spaces required for the single-family residence.
MOTION: Commissioner Soltysiak moved to close the public hearing and to adopt the Negative
Declaration for PA 97-0348 and to adopt Resolution No. 97-037. The motion was seconded
by Chairwoman Fahey and voice vote of those present reflected approval as follows:
RESOLUTION NO. 97 -037
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE AN ORDINANCE
ENTITLED AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
AMENDING PORTIONS OF TABLE 17.06.030, TABLE 17.24.040 AND SECTION
17.34.010 OF THE TEMECULA DEVELOPMENT CODE PERTAINING TO
PERMITTED USES FOR GRANNY FLATS AND GUEST HOUSES, PARKING
STANDARDS FOR MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, SECOND UNITS, GRANNY FLATS AND
GUEST HOUSES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, DRIVEWAY WIDTHS CONTAINED IN
SECTION 17.24.050(b) AND ADDING A DEFINITION OF GUEST HOUSE
AYES:
COMMISSIONERS: Fahey and Soltysiak.
NOES:
COMMISSIONERS: Slaven.
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS: Guerriero.
ABSTAIN:
COMMISSIONERS: Miller.
Clarifying her no vote, Commissioner Slaven reiterated that because these amendments
decrease the required number of parking spaces, she voted in opposition.
6. PLANNING APPLICATION NO. PA 96-0345 (DEVELOPMENT PLAN - REVISION)
Planning Commission consideration to erect a 55.3 square foot face graphic
wall sign on the Kentucky Fried Chicken/Shell Station building fronting
Margarita Road.
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RECOMMFNDATION
To provide direction to staff whether to revise previously approved plans.
Project Planner Donahoe reviewed the staff report (of record), noting that 17 signs have been
previously approved for the subject site and that staff had received two phone calls in
opposition to the request (Mr. Rob Van Kirk, Vice President of The Villages Homeowners'
Association, and Ms. Ruby Dirkson, 30551Holly Berry Lane).
At this time, Chairwoman Fahey opened the public hearing.
Apologizing for some of the confusion this project has encountered, Mr. Lee Richardson, 30044
La Primavera, representing the applicant, advised that it was always the applicant's intent to
provide the requested sign on the original application but because of the relocation of the car
wash and, therefore, the relocation of signage, this particular sign was inadvertently eliminated
from the original request. Mr. Richardson briefly reviewed existing signage at the location;
noted that the proposed sign would not have a negative impact on the neighborhood; and
advised that the major tenants of this Center (Long's and Lucky's) as well as the owner of the
shopping center have given their approval to this request.
Reiterating the Association's initial objection to the approval of this entire development,
Mr. Jim Contopulos, 42075 Humber Drive, Treasurer of the Villages Homeowners' Association,
commented that the applicant has not complied with conditions of approval originally imposed
on the project. Although he would still not be in favor of the requested sign, Mr. Contopulos
requested that if this sign were approved by the Commission, the applicant should be required
to comply with the previously imposed conditions, such as the following:
extensive landscaping along Margarita Road
berm (bordering Yukon Road not 36" high as initially required only 21" high
existing wall supposed to be 8' tall but is 7' tall
lights are not recessed
existing gate, along back side, should be removed for safety purposes
no light at Yukon Road and Margarita Road
Because previously imposed conditions of approval have not been adequately met, Mr. David
Micheal, 30300 Churchill Court, relayed his objection to this request and encouraged the
Commission to deny the request. In lieu of the proposed sign, he noted that he would not
oppose the installation of a KFC sign, similar to the one facing Rancho California Road.
Mr. Richardson apprised the Commissioners of compromises the applicant initially made in order
to get the existing facility approved and in order to be a good neighbor and advised that he
would apprise the applicant of the residents' concerns with regard to the conditions of
approval.
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In response to Chairwoman Fahey's suggestion, Mr. Richardson stated that because of identity
problems with the site of discussion, he relayed his opposition to the installation of a KFC sign,
similar to the one on Rancho California Road, in lieu of the requested sign.
Recalling several other large signs throughout the City such as the one being proposed,
Commissioner Miller expressed a concern with the proliferation of such large signs and his
opposition to them.
Commenting on the efforts undertaken by the Commission with regard to ensuring compatibility
of the existing site with the neighboring businesses and neighborhoods, Commissioner Slaven
commented the noncompliance issue with regard to the initially imposed conditions of approval;
noted that, in her opinion, the visibility of the proposed sign would be somewhat obscured by
the gas station canopy; and relayed her support for a KFC sign, similar to the one facing
Rancho California Road, in lieu of the requested sign.
During Commission discussion, it was determined that the proposed sign would not be
compatible with the existing development as well as with the construction of the surrounding
neighborhood because of scale and consistency with the design guidelines and, therefore, the
following motion was offered:
MOTION: Commissioner Miller moved to close the public hearing; to deny Planning Application
No. PA96-0345; and to revise the Resolution accurately reflecting the reason for the denial.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Slaven and voice vote of those present reflect
unanimous approval (Commissioner Guerriero absent).
PC RESOLUTION NO. 97-038
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
DENYING PLANNING APPLICATION NO. PA96-0345 -- DEVELOPMENT PLAN
REVISION TO ERECT A 55.3 SQUARE FOOT FACE GRAPHIC WALL SIGN ON
THE KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN/SHELL STATION BUILDING FRONTING
MARGARITA ROAD ON A PARCEL CONTAINING 0.794 ACRES LOCATED AT
THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF MARGARITA ROAD AND YUKON ROAD AND
KNOWN AS ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NO. 921-700-017
PLANNING APPLICATION NO. PA97-0305 (DEVELOPMENT PLAN)
WINCHESTER MEADOWS AND PLANNING APPLICATION NO. PA97-0368
(TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 28697) WINCHESTER MEADOWS\
Planning Commission consideration to design, construct, and operate a
144,000 square foot, 14-building, commercial retail center in three (3)
phases on 15.3 acres and to subdivide 15.3 acres into three parcels zoned
Community Commercial.
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Project
RECOMMENDATION
To adopt the Negative Declaration for PA97-0305 and PA97-0368; to adopt
the Mitigation Monitoring Program for PA97-0305 and PA97-0368; to adopt
Resolution No. 97-039 and to adopt Resolution No. 97-040.
PC RESOLUTION NO. 97-039
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
APPROVING PLANNING APPLICATION NO. PA97-0305 TO CONSTRUCT AND
OPERATE A 144,000 SQUARE FOOT, 14-BUILDING, COMMERCIAL RETAIL
CENTER IN THREE PHASES ON PARCELS CONTAINING 15.3 NET ACRES
LOCATED NORTHEASTERLY OF THE INTERSECTION OF WINCHESTER ROAD
(STATE HIGHWAY 79 NORTH) AND MARGARITA ROAD AND KNOWN AS
ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NOS. 911-170-091, -094, AND -087
PC RESOLUTION NO. 97-040
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
APPROVING PLANNING APPLICATION NO. PA97-0368 TO SUBDIVIDE A 15.3
ACRE PARCEL INTO THREE PARCELS LOCATED NORTHEASTERLY OF THE
INTERSECTION OF WINCHESTER ROAD (STATE HIGHWAY 79 NORTH) AND
MARGARITA ROAD AND KNOWN AS ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NOS. 911-170-O91,
-094, AND -087
Planner Donahoe reviewed the staff report, as per written material, noting the following:
that the applicant has proposed a color change from primary colors to teal;
that a pedestrian plaza is being proposed near the main Center entrance off
Winchester Road;
that for pedestrian safety, bollards are being provided;
that two other pedestrian plazas are being proposed -- one at each end of the
project;
that because Caltrans has not permitted landscaping along the median on
Winchester Road, staff is recommending to delete this condition;
that Caltrans has not agreed to permit a break in the median in order to make a
left-hand turn into the project off Winchester Road;
that the applicant revised the site plan to eliminate the break and that if Caltrans
were to approve this in the future, staff would support such a break;
that enhancements to the water well site are being proposed;
that the Rancho California Water District will enter the well site from an interior
aisle way versus the existing driveway;
that no sign program has been submitted for the subject site;
that Phase II will include Shop 1 and Retail A and Phase III will include Shops 3
and 4 and Retail B and C;
that a separate Development Plan will be required for Phase III.
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Mr. Tom Bergerson, Nadel Architects of Costa Mesa, representing the applicant, clarified the
location of fencing for Area 2, noting that the proposed 6' fence, utilized to screen Phase II,
was proposed by staff and clarifying that the applicant would prefer landscaping only. Because
Area 3 is approximately 8 acres in size, Mr. Bergerson advised that no fencing has been
recommended for this area, only landscaping will be provided. In response to Commissioner
Miller, Mr. Bergerson advised that no shade covers are being built but advised that the proposed
palm trees will provide shade as will the structural canopy and the mobile umbrellas of the patio
furniture. It was noted by Mr. Bergerson that the locations of the vending machines have been
designated as requested by staff.
In response to the location of the vending machines, Commissioner Miller requested that a
condition be imposed reflecting the exact location of them.
Although commending the applicant on the proposed color change, Commissioner Slaven
relayed her concern with regard to the close proximity of the pedestrian plaza to the main
entrance of the Center.
Commenting on the lack of synergy among the buildings of the entire Center, Commissioner
Slaven expressed concern with pedestrian movement throughout the parking lot for the entire
Center to which Mr. Bergerson briefly reviewed the travel path, noting that the meandering
public sidewalk will be incorporated in the travel path. She also expressed a concern with the
phasing of the Center and commended the applicant on the water well site enhancements.
Planning Manager Ubnoske relayed her support of utilizing landscaping versus the installation
of a 6' high chain-link fence. Because the construction of this Center will depend on market
conditions, Ms. Ubnoske encouraged the Commissioners not to view phasing as a problem.
In detail, by way of Exhibits, Ms. Dolores Marquez, landscape architect, representing the
applicant, reviewed the materials which comprise the solid buffer on both sides of the driveway
entrance; advised that the interim Phase I landscaping will include landscaping for the well site;
and noted that the proposed permanent landscaping along Winchester Road will be consistent
with existing landscaping on Winchester Road. Commissioner Miller requested that the
proposed condition of approval accurately reflect the noted landscaping plans.
With regard to phasing, Mr. Cary Nobel, SPT Holdings, owners of Area 2 and 3, assured the
Commissioners of the owners' intent to proceed as quickly as possible with their project.
It was the consensus of the Commission to eliminate the installation of the §' high chain-link
fence.
Chairwoman Fahey expressed concern with regard to the circulation of this project and with
the close proximity of the bike path to the truck driveway entrance. In response to
Chairwoman Fahey, Principal Engineer Parks advised that a separate bike path would be
designated along Margarita Road.
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With regard to Ralph's grocery store potentially selling liquor, Planning Manager Ubnoske
advised that this issue will be considered at the December 15, 1997, Planning Commission
meeting, noting that the high school is farther than 600' from the grocery store.
MOTION: Commissioner Miller moved to close the public hearing; to adopt the Negative
Declaration for PA97-035 and PA97-0368; to adopt the Mitigation Monitoring Program for
PA97-0305 and PA97-0368; to adopt Resolution No. 97-039; to adopt Resolution No. 97-040;
and to add and delete the following conditions of approval:
that no vending machines will be permitted outside of the designated areas as
per the submitted map;
that the 6' high chain-link fence be deleted and that hedging be provided;
that perimeter landscaping be completed along Winchester and Margarita Roads.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Soltysiak. Prior to the voice vote, additional
Commission discussion ensued. (Voice vote of the motion reflected a split decision; see
below.)
Project Planner Donahoe requested Commission clarification as it relates to the location of the
landscaping along Winchester and Margarita Roads to which Commissioner Slaven noted that
the landscaping should be placed up to the hedge versus the outside of the meandering
walkway.
Commissioner Slaven reiterated her concern with regard to the close proximity of the pedestrian
plaza to the main Center entrance as well as the lack of synergy between the buildings and
suggested that the project be redesigned to address these concerns, making the project more
pedestrian friendly.
Concurring with Commissioner Slaven's comments, Chairwoman Fahey commented on the
unclarity of pedestrian movement through the Center and suggested the addition of another
pedestrian plaza, possibly between the market and shop 2.
At this time voice vote on the eadier motion reflected a split decision; therefore, the motion did
not carry.
With regard to circulation, Principal Engineer Parks noted that staff would envision vehicular
traffic to enter the Center by way of Margarita Road and exit by way of Winchester Road. He
further elaborated on pedestrian/vehicular circulation throughout the Center, noting that no
substantial amount of foot traffic would anticipated to Ralph's market.
Chairwoman Fahey advised that she could support the project, if the applicant were willing to
add an additional pedestrian plaza between the market and shop 2.
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In response to Chairwoman Fahey, Mr. Bergerson expressed concern with the construction of
an additional pedestrian plaza because of the parking spaces that would be eliminated for
Ralph's. With regard to the location of a second plaza, Mr. Bergerson suggested that, if
requested, it be located farther north of shop 2. Mr. Bergerson commented on the spacing of
the proposed buildings to ensure clear visibility of Ralph's from the street.
Being unable to approve this project this evening, Chairwoman Fahey suggested that this
matter be continued to the December 15, 1997, Planning Commission meeting at which time
Commissioner Guerriero will be in attendance and noted that she would not be attending that
meeting.
MOTION: Commissioner Slaven moved to continue this matter to the December 15, 1997,
Planning Commission meeting. The motion was seconded by Chairwoman Fahey. (The voice
vote reflected a split decision; therefore, the motion did not carry; see below.)
With regard to the construction of a second pedestrian plaza, Planning Manager Ubnoske
suggested that the square footage of shop 2 be decreased, which would eliminate the need to
decrease the parking spaces for Ralph's.
Having listened to the Commission's comments, Mr. Bob Cahan, developer of the project,
advised that the location of the buildings for this Center are based on Ralph's approval. With
regard to the reduction in square footage for shop 2, Mr. Cahan stated that such action would
be financially infeasible. He suggested decreasing the pedestrian plaza at the south end and
constructing a smaller plaza at the north end and expressed a willingness to further pursue this
possibility.
At this time, a voice vote on the previously made motion reflected a split decision; therefore,
the motion did not carry.
In response to Commissioner Miller, Mr. Bergerson expressed the applicant's desire to continue
this matter to the December 15, 1997, Planning Commission meeting.
MOTION: Commissioner Slaven moved to continue this matter to the December 15, 1997,
Planning Commission meeting. The motion was seconded by Chairwoman Fahey and voice
vote reflected unanimous approval.
PLANNING MANAGER'S REPORT
Planning Manager Ubnoske informed the Commissioners that staff will be meeting in order to
discuss the submittal of agenda packets to the Commissioners and that Commission input
would welcomed.
In order to provide more time to staff as well as more time to the Commissioners to obtain
information from staff, Commissioner Slaven suggested moving the Commission meeting date
to another night of the week. Planning Manager Ubnoske noted that she would review the
availability of the Conference Room.
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PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION
In response to Commissioner Slaven's concern that specific conditions of approval have not
been adhered to with regard to the Shell station/KFC at the Palomar Village Shopping Center,
Project Planner Donahoe noted that staff would follow up on the matter.
OTHER BUSINESS
None.
ADJOURNMENT
At 9:48 P.M., the Planning Commission meeting was formally adjourned to Monday, December
15, 1997, at 6:00 P.M., to City Council Chambers, 43200 Business Park Drive.
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