HomeMy WebLinkAbout093092 PC/CC Jnt. Minutes MINUTES OF A JOINT MEETING
OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD SEPTEMBER 30, 1992
A joint meeting of the City of Temecula City Council and Planning Commission was called to
order Wednesday, September 30, 1992, 6:00 P.M., Temecula City Hall Main Conference
Room, 43174 Business Park Drive, Temecula, California. The meeting was called to order by
Mayor Patricia H. Birdsall. Mayor Pro Tern Lindemarts led the flag salute.
PRESENT: 5
ABSENT: 0
PRESENT: 3
ABSENT: 2
COUNCILMEMBERS:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
Linderoans, Moore, Mu~oz, Parks,
Birdsall
None
Blair, Chiniaeff, Hoagland
Fahey, Ford
Also present were City Manager David Dixon and City Clerk June Greek.
Commissioner Ford arrived at 6:05 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None
COUNCIL BUSINESS
Mark Kramer, 40646 Calle Fiesta, Temecula, representing the Meadowview Homeowners
Association questioned if the City plans to condemn the association common area which the
City's proposed trails master plan enters into. Mr. Kramer advised that the association
supports its own recreation program and provides many amenities for the homeowners. Mr.
Kramer expressed concern that because of the rural environment in Meadowview, bringing
the trail system through the common area would be an invasion of privacy and a security
problem for the residents.
Mr. Kramer also expressed concern regarding the proposed lengthening and widening of North
General Kearney which would separate 75 homes from the association. Mr. Kramer stated
that he would like to see buffering of the proposed roadway and the houses addressed.
1. Introduction and Background
Planning Director Gary Thornhill provided an introduction and background of the
meeting.
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2. Discussion ReqardinQ General Plan Issues
Senior Planner John Meyer presented a staff report briefly outlining
followed by Council and Commission discussion as follows:
A. Levels of Service for Police and Fire
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each topic,
Councilmember Parks questioned whether there is a need for increased levels
of service by law enforcement in areas of high density housing.
Police Chief Rick Sayre stated he is comfortable with the service level being
provided.
It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Councilmember Moore to
make no change to the service levels for police and fire.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 5 COUNCILMEMBERS:
NOES: 0
AYES: 4
COUNCILMEMBERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS:
ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONERS:
Commissioner Fahey arrived at 6:15 P.M.
Lindemans, Moore, Mu~oz,
Parks, Birdsall
None
Blair, Chiniaeff, Ford,
Hoagland
None
Fahey
Trails Master Plan
John Meyer advised that the Parks and Recreation Master Plan Committee
approved the plan on September 29, 1992.
Mayor Birdsall questioned if the concerns expressed by the Meadowview
Homeowners Association have been addressed by the Committee.
John Meyer stated that there were two possibilities discussed: 1 ) take the trail
system through the common area or 2) take the trail system to the east
paralleling Meadowview.
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Commissioner Hoagland supported the conceptual plan for trails, however, was
not in support of the General Plan containing a map reflecting the conceptual
trail system.
Pat Ommert, 38951 Pauba Road, Temecula, representing the Rancho California
Horsemarts Association of Temecula Valley, addressed the Temecula Creek and
expressed the need for a connector through Los Ranchitos to the area of the
Pala Park Site.
Mayor Pro Tern Lindemans stated that the Meadowview Homeowners have
their own trail system and if they do not want the City trail system going
through their common area their wishes should be complied with.
It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Councilmember Moore to
approve the concept of placing the trail system over public or private property,
whichever is most applicable and direct the Master Plan Committee to wait until
completion of the General Plan before establishing specific routes.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 4 COUNCILMEMBERS: Moore, Mu~oz, Parks,
Birdsall
NOES: 1 COUNCILMEMBERS: Lindemans
AYES:
4 COMMISSIONERS:
Blair, Chiniaeff, Fahey, Ford
NOES: I COMMISSIONERS: Hoagland
Mayor Birdsall declared a recess at 7:00 P.M. The meeting was reconvened at 7:10 P.M.
C. Communitv, Highway and Service Commercial Land Use Policies
Councilmember Parks stated this issue should be approached with the view that the
General Plan does not present a hardship to any property owner.
It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Lindemans to
give special consideration to property owners who have a hardship due to the land use
designations established in Assessment Districts 159 or 161.
Commissioner Hoagland stated he feels the City should address land uses based on the
needs of the City, and not what effects it has on the property owner.
Commissioner Blair stated she would not support the motion which she feels deals
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with specific parcels and the Council and Commission are suppose to be dealing with
concepts.
Councilmember Moore stated she objects to the motion because it addresses a
financial hardship, not good planning practices.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 4
NOES: 1
AYES: 3
NOES: 2
COUNCILMEMBERS:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
Lindemans, Mu~oz, Parks, Birdsall
Moore
Chiniaeff, Fahey, Ford
Blair, Hoagland
Land Use Designations in the Chaoarral Area
Councilmember Parks stepped down due to a conflict of interest.
Bev Stone, 43136 John Warner Road, Temecula, representing the homeowners in the
Chaparral area, supported a designation of very low density.
Tim Oreliana, 30695 Lolita Road, Temecula, stated that he supports the designation
of very low density.
Commissioner Hoagland stated he feels very low density is more appropriate due to
the lack of sufficient infrastructure to support higher densities and recommended that
this be designated as a special study area and establish criteria performance standards.
It was moved by Commissioner Chiniaeff, seconded by Commissioner Hoagland to
designate the Chaparral Area as "very low" density subject to a designated special
study area should be defined by staff and establish performance standards.
Larry Markham, Markham & Associates, 41750 Winchester Road, Temecula, stated
that he feels there are some areas in the Chaparral more suited to higher densities and
the area be defined as low to very low with policies.
Commissioner Blair called for the question, seconded by Mayor Pro Tern Lindemans.
The vote was unanimous with Councilmember Parks abstaining due to a conflict of
interest.
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The motion was carried as follows:
AYES: 4
NOES: 0
ABSTAIN: 1
AYES: 5
COUNCILMEMBERS:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
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Lindemans, Moore, Mu~oz, Birdsall
None
Parks
Blair, Chiniaeff, Fahey, Ford,
Hoagland
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
Mayor Birdsall declared a recess at 8:25 P.M. The meeting reconvened at 8:35 P.M.
Extension of North General Kearnev Road
It was moved by Councilmember Parks, seconded by Commissioner Blair to designate
the extension of North General Kearney Road as part of the circulation element and
direct staff to work with the property owners to address the issues of horses and
double frontages.
The motion was carried as follows:
AYES: 4 COUNCILMEMBERS: Lindemans, Moore, Mu~oz, Parks
NOES: 0 COUNCILMEMBERS: None
ABSTAIN: 1 COUNCILMEMBERS: Birdsall
AYES: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Ford
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Chiniaeff, Fahey, Hoagland
Technical Subcommittees and Town Hall Meeting Summaries
Summaries were included in agenda packages.
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Additional Topics Raised by Councilmembers or Commissioners
It was moved by Commissioner Blair, seconded by Commissioner Hoagland to schedule
Planning Commission public hearings as follows:
October 19, 1992, 6:00 - 10:00 P.M., Public Hearing on six elements of the General
Plan
October 26, 1992, 6:00 - 10:00 P.M., Public Hearing to conduct Planning Commission
business
November 2, 1992, 6:00 - 10:00 P.M., Public Hearing on three elements of the
General Plan
November 16, 1992, 6:00 - 10:00 P.M., Public Hearing to conduct Planning
Commission business
The motion was unanimously approved.
CITY MANAGER'S REPORT
None
CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Mayor Birdsall advised of the following events:
October 2 - 4, Temecula Tractor Race
October 3, City Golf Tournament
October 5, CRC Ground Breaking Ceremony
October 16, Commission Recognition Banquet
PLANNING COMMISSION REPORTS
None
ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Mayor Pro Tem Lindemans, seconded by Councilmember Parks to adjourn
to a special City Council meeting on October 6, 1992, 7:00 P.M., Temecula Community
Center, 28816 Pujol Street, Temecula. The motion was unanimously carried.
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It was moved by Commissioner Chiniaeff, seconded by Commissioner Blair to cancel the
Planning Commission meeting of October 5, 1992 and adjourn to the Planning Commission
meeting of October 19, 1992, 6:00 P.M., Vail Elementary School, 29915 Mira Loma,
Temecula. The motion was unanimously carried.
ATTEST:
e S. Gree~-,, ~ty Clerk
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