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HomeMy WebLinkAbout110193 PC MinutesMINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA PLANNING COMMISSION MONDAY, NOVEMBER 1, 1993 A regular meeting of the City of Temecula Planning Commission was held on Monday, November 1,1993, 6:05 P.M., at Vail Elementary School, 29915 Mira Loma Drive, Temecula, California. Chairman Steve Ford called the meeting to order. PRESENT: 4 ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Hoagland, Ford COMMISSIONERS: Chiniaeff Also present were Planning Director Gary Thornhill, Assistant City Attorney Mary Jo Shelton, Principal Engineer Raymond Casey and Recording Secretary Gail Zigler. PUBLIC COMMENT Former Planning Commissioner Dennis Chiniaeff announced his resignation effective Friday, October 29, 1993, due to a conflict of interest with his new employer. Mr. Chiniaeff thanked the Commission for the pleasure of serving with them for the past four years. COMMISSION BUSINESS 1. Approval of AQenda It was moved by Commissioner Blair, seconded by Commissioner Fahey to approve the agenda. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Hoagland, Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None 2. APproval of Minutes of October 4, 1993 It was moved by Commissioner Hoagland, seconded by Commissioner Fahey to approve the minutes of October 4, 1993. The motion carried as follows: AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Hoagland, Ford None PCMIN 11/0/193 -! - 11/15/93 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: 3. Director's Hearing Urndate No report. NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS 4. PA93-0163, First Extension of Time None NOVEMBER 1. 1993 Proposed first extension of time for Tentative Tract Map No. 24172, Amendment No. 1. East side of Ynez Road, approximately 200 feet south of Calle Halcon. Planning Assistant Craig Ruiz presented the staff report. It was moved by Commissioner Fahey, seconded by Commissioner Hoagland to Re- Affirm the previously adopted Negative Declaration for Tentative Tract Map No. 24172, Amendment No. 1 and Adopt Resolution No. 93-24 approving PA93-0163, First Extension of Time for Tentative Tract Map No. 24172, Amendment No. 1, based upon the Analysis and Findings contained in the staff report and AoDrove PA93-0163, Tentative Tract Map No. 24172, Amendment No. 1, First Extension of Time subject to the Conditions of Approval. The motion was carried as follows: AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Hoagland, Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None Vesting Tentative Tract MaD No. 23372, Second Extension of Time Proposed second one (1) year extension of time for Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 23372. Northwest corner of Rancho California Road and Meadows Parkway. Assistant Planner Matthew Fagan presented the staff report. He advised the applicant is now called Margarita Village Retirement Communities, Inc. Planner Fagan said Conditions 23, 24 and 26 have been deleted by staff. Ray Casey explained these conditions originally were added to the project to bring about discussions with the applicant regarding certain underlying specific plan conditions, specifically the construction of Margarita Road. He said the developer is scheduled to meet with staff to discuss moving forward with the construction of Margarita Road. PCMIN 11 I01193 -2- 11/15/93 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 1. 1993 Commissioner Hoagland said he feels uncomfortable deleting these conditions. He said he does not believe the conditions hamper the developer of this project. He said previous erosion from this site resulted in a lawsuit. Commissioner Hoagland said he felt the conditions were appropriate at this time. Commissioner Fahey asked if this development impacts Margarita Road. Ray Casey said the primary access to this development will be from Rancho California Road. He said this development is part of an underlying specific plan which has been conditioned for the construction of Margarita Road, however these two tracts will not directly benefit from the construction of Margarita Road. There are several other access points which serve as secondary access one of which leads to Margarita Road, although there is some distance between these tracts and Margarita Road. Commissioner Hoagland said he feels this entire development contributes to the erosion problems in this area. Commissioner Ford asked if there was a date certain for completion of the erosion control conditions. Ray Casey responded thirty (30) days from the approval of the extension would be appropriate. Commissioner Hoagland said he could agree to delete Conditions of Approval 23 and 26 with the understanding that staff would work with the developer to come up with a timing constraint for the Specific Plan as a whole. It was moved by Commissioner Hoagland, seconded by Commissioner Fahey to approve staff recommendation. Planning Director Gary Thornhill said there was a discrepancy in the park fees. Item 5, Condition of Approval 32 of Page 18, was a previously approved Condition and is not consistent with Condition of Approval 18 of Page 4 of the new Conditions. Mick Ratikin, architect for the developer, said the property has not been graded and asked if the developer was being conditioned for erosion control which is not part of this map. Additionally, Mr. Ratikin said the developer has a Development Agreement with the County for park fees and feels the appropriate acreage which the developer should dedicate in lieu of fees is zero acreage. Mr. Ratikin said this tract is approximately one mile from Margarita Road. It was moved by Commissioner Hoagland, seconded by Commissioner Fahey to withdraw the original motion and continue this item to allow staff to work with the developer on these unresolved issues. PCMIN 11/0/193 -3- 11/15/93 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 1, 1993 Planning Director Gary Thornhill suggested the Commission recess to allow staff and the City Attorney to discuss the impact of a continuance on the time extension. Chairman Ford declared a recess at 6:40 P.M. The meeting reconvened at 6:45 P.M. Director Thornhill advised the Council the City Attorney has determined that because the application has been filed, it places a stay on the time frame and therefore recommends continuing this item and directing staff to bring it back with the 3rd Extension of Time. The motion was carried as follows: AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Hoagland, Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None 6. Vesting Tentative Tract MaD No. 23373, Second Extension of Time Proposed second one (1) year extension of time for Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 23373. Northwest corner of Rancho California Road and Meadows Parkway. It was moved by Commissioner Fahey, seconded by Commissioner Hoagland to continue this item to allow staff to work with the developer on unresolved issues relating to the Conditions of Approval. The motion was carried as follows: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Hoagland, Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None 7. PA93-0175. First Extension of Time Proposed First Extension of Time for Tentative Tract Map No. 26845, Amendment No. 1. Located at the northeast corner of Ynez And Santiago Roads. Assistant Planner Matthew Fagan presented the staff report. He stated staff has added Condition of Approval No. 32 as follows "The developer shall design and bond for Street A per the rural street development standards of the draft general plan". He said the NPDES condition has been added to this project. PCMIN 11/0/193 -4- 11/15/93 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 1, 1993 It was moved by Commissioner Hoagland, seconded by Commissioner Fahey to Adopt Resolution No. 93-25 Re-affirming the previously adopted Negative Declaration for Tentative Tract Map No. 26845, Amendment No. 1 subject to the Conditions of Approval with the modification to Condition No. 32 and the addition of the NPDES condition. The motion was carried as follows: AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Hoagland, Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None PUBLIC HEARING ITEM 8. PA93-0179, Second Unit Permit Proposal to construct a new 2,195 square foot dwelling unit. New unit will become the primary unit and the existing 1,536 square foot structure will become the secondary unit. Located at 31550 Calle Girasol. Assistant Planner Matthew Fagan presented the staff report. He advised Condition No. 10 has been deleted by staff. Commissioner Hoagland said he feels the City should require for improvement of these roads at the time of development or the City will have to go back and do the permanent road improvement in the future. Chairman Ford opened the public hearing at 7:10 P.M. Paul Toomey, attorney representing the Derobert family, 34664 County Line Road, Suite 6, Yucaipa, said the road improvement conditions would make this project "unaffordable". Mr. Toomey said he found a discrepancy in how the County fire agency applies the paving issue to the different types of projects. He explained in their schedule of maps, they extablish a sub-division with four or less parcels of the 2 1/2 acre size, they require a twenty-eight foot wide Class 2 base material road as an acceptable method of pavement. Mr. Toomey asked that permanent road improvements be applied to any development on this parcel. Mr. Toomey said the approval is for a temporary application and the owner would have to come back in five years and re-apply. It was moved by Commissioner Hoagland to approve staff recommendation. Commissioner Blair seconded the motion for discussion. PCMIN 11/0/193 -5- 11/15/93 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 1, 1993 Director Thornhill asked if the Commission wants to leave determination of the base road material with the County fire agency. Commissioner Hoagland said he feels it is the City's obligation to bring areas up to urban standards. Commissioner Fahey said the City is an urban area however, there are several rural areas in the City that want to remain rural. Commissioner Fahey said she favors some leniency, however if it was to be an all weather road. If it is going to be a public right- of-way, the Commission should approve it with the appropriate conditions based on the ordinance. It was moved by Commissioner Hoagland, seconded by Commissioner Blair to close the public hearing at 7:20 P.M. and Adopt Resolution No. 93-26 approving PA93- 0179, Amendment No. 1 based on the analysis and findings contained in the staff report and subject to the Conditions of Approval, deleting Condition No. 10. The motion was carried as follows: AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Hoagland, Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None PA 93-0145 (SPecific Plan No. 164, Amendment No. 2) PA 93-0144 (Tentative Tract Mao No. 27827) A proposed request for Approval of Amendment No. 2 to Specific Plan No. 164 in order to Change the Zoning for Planning Areas 7 (22.5 acres) and 8 (10.1 acres) from Very High Density Residential (20 Dwelling Units Per Acre) to High Density Residential (12 Dwelling Units Per Acre), to add a three (3) acre park and adjust the boundaries between Planning Areas 7, 8 and 9 and approval of Tentative Tract Tract Map No. 27827, a 162 single family lot subdivision plus a three (3) acre lot for a public park within Planning Area No. 7. Planner Saied Naaseh presented the staff report. He advised the Commission the applicant does not wish to form a Homeowners Association. He said staff has worked with the applicant to resolved many issues. Changes to the Conditions of Approval were distributed by memorandum dated November 1, 1993 from the Planning Department. Chairman Ford opened the public hearing at 7:40 P.M. Sanford Edward, 110 Newport Center Drive, Newport Beach, representing the applicant, provided an overview of the project's history. PCMIN11/0/193 -6- 11/15/93 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 1. 1993 Commissioner Fahey suggested the formation of a Homeowners Association would make maintenace of the block walls more cost-effective to the individual homeowner. Patrick Callahan, landscape architect for the project, explained his discussions with the Community Services Director regarding the wall materials and how to handle potential vandalism of the wall. Commissioner Hoagland said he agrees once the vegetation grows and covers the wall, the wall will require very low maintenance however, it will take approximately 3 to 5 years for that plant material to grow and cover the walls. Commissioner Hoagland said a Homeowners Association would cost the individual property owners very little and allow them an avenue to resolve their problems without involving the City. Director Thornhill said the City now owns graffiti removal equipment and can appropriately remove graffiti from public view. Commissioner Blair said she does not recall the Planning Commission reviewing any other project this complex that did not have a Homeowners Association. Commissioner Blair said she is not pleased by the reduction in the parkway from 10' to 6' on one side of the street, and would like to see consistency on both sides of the street. She said she feels the City is giving up several qualities that are important to a Temecula project and she does not feel the project is at the appropriate stage for approval. Commissioner Hoagland said he feels that a Homeowners Association is important to the project. He said he feels the concept is good; however, he cannot support the project without the Homeowners Association. He said he is concerned with the berm outside the wall; however, he said he does not feel it is important to the approval. Director Thornhill explained the purpose of the berm was to reduce the apparent height of the wall as viewed from the street. It was moved by Commissioner Hoagland, seconded by Commissioner Blair to close the public hearing at 8:20 P.M. and Recommend Adoorion of Resolution No. 93-27, recommending approval for: Planning Application Nos. 93-0144 and 93-0145 (Specific Plan No. 164, Amendment No. 2, and Tentative Tract Map No. 27827 based on the analysis and findings contained in the staff report and subject to the Conditions of Approval as modified by staff and Recommend Adoorion of Negative Declaration for PA93-0144 and P93-0145 and direct staff to draft conditions necessary to require the applicant to provide a community or homeowners association. Sanford Edward, the applicant's representative, concurred with the addition of a condition requiring the formation of homeowners association. Ray Casey said because there was no homeowners association, staff included maintenance of the alleys in Zone R of the Community Services Facilities Districts. He PCMIN 11/O/193 -7- 11/15/93 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 1. 1993 suggested that maintenance of the alleys be placed under the homeowners association. Commissioner Hoagland said he feels the City is better equipped to make a determination on when maintenance should be done on the alleys, therefore, the motion was not amended as Mr. Casey suggested. The motion was carried as follows: AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Blair, Fahey, Hoagland, Ford NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None PLANNING DIRECTOR'S REPORT Director Thornhill advised the Commission a workshop on implementing the General Plan Village Concept is proposed for November 18, 1993. Mr. Thornhill advised the Commission of a proposal by Zev Buffman for the Old Town area. PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION None OTHER BUSINESS None ADJOURNMENT The next regular meeting of the City of Temecula Planning Commission will be held on Monday, December 6, 1993, 6:00 P.M., at Vail Elementary School, 29915 Mira Loma Drive, Temecula, California. PCMIN 11/O/193 -8- 11/15/93