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OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
PUBLIC/TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
DECEMBER 11, 1997
A regular meeting of the City of Temecula Public/Traffic Safety Commission was called to order
on Thursday, December 11, 1997, 7:02 P.M., at the City Council Chambers, 43200 Business
Park Drive, Temecula, California. Chairman Larry Markham called the meeting to order.
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: Johnson, Perry, Telesio, Markham
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Coe
Also present were Public Works Associate Engineer All Moghadam, Police Sergeant Rodney
Crisp, Battalion Chief John Winder, Administrative Secretary Anita Pyle, and Minute Clerk Pat
Kelley.
Commissioner Johnson led the flag salute.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Chairman Markham asked for public comments on non-agenda items.
Cecelia Axton, 30169 Sierra Madre Drive, representing the Temecula Valley Council PTA,
requested a review of the posting of a "No Left Turn" sign on Warbler Circle because the
alignment of Nicolas Road inhibits westbound traffic from seeing traffic at that intersection.
Ms. Axton thanked the Commission for recommending approval of the four-way "stop" at
Nicolas Road and North General Kearny as it has reduced the speeding motorist.
Commissioner Perry recommended the "No Left Turn" sign for Warbler Circle and Nicolas Road
matter be placed on January, 1998 agenda.
Chairman Markham asked staff to pull Conditions of Approval to determine if the striping plan
denotes a "No Left Turn". Ms. Axton suggested checking the City Council minutes relating to
this matter.
Ms. Axton also asked for an inspection of the trees around the June Street intersection as sight
is restricted because the trees need trimming.
COMMISSION CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes of October 23.1997 and Special Meeting of November 20. 1997
It was moved by Commissioner Johnson, seconded by Commissioner Perry to approve
the Minutes of October 23, 1997 and the Special Meeting Minutes of November 20,
1997, with the following amendment:
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Minutes of November 20, 1997, - Page 4, 3rd sentence - ...left-turns onto Ynez Road.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES:
4 COMMISSIONERS: Johnson, Perry, Telesio, Markham
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONER: Coe
Flashing Yellow Lights - Nicolas Road near North General Kearny'Road
Associate Engineer All Moghadam presented the staff report.
Chairman Markham asked about the status of the median construction. Mr, Moghadam
stated the median fronting the gas station up to the southerly boundary should be
constructed within a year, but he is unaware of any plans east of the driveway.
Cecelia Axton, 30169 Sierra Madre, representing the Temecula Valley Council Parent
Teachers Association (PTA), spoke in support of a permanent warning signal at Nicolas
Road near North General Kearny Road. It was her understanding the temporary flashing
signs would be in place for a minimum of six (6) months, but were in for only one (1)
week. She expressed the need for the temporary warning light for a longer period of
time.
Mr. Moghadam stated he talked to Forrest Thomas, Temecula Valley Unified School
District (TVUSD) and the TVUSD is in favor of flashing beacons and a crossing guard.
Commissioner Johnson asked if school children are crossing Nicolas Road. Ms. Axton
replied, because there are not proper sidewalks on Nicolas Road, the children are
currently being bused.
Chairman Markham noted since the school district determines the school sites and
develops those sites with very little infrastructure in place, it places children at risk, he
suggested Ms. Axton talk to Mr. Thomas of the TVUSD about the issue. Ms. Axton
replied she is working closely with TVUSD, individual developers, City and County staffs
regarding various traffic/school safety issues.
Bob Lopshire, 40244 Atmore Court, expressed concern about children crossing at
Nicolas Road and North General Kearny because motorists continue to speed along
Nicolas Road. He supported east and west warning lights on Nicolas Road, a crossing
guard, and a lower speed limit.
Commissioner Perry mentioned that Mr. Thomas, TVUSD, stated to this Commission the
school district would have cross guard stationed at this location when busing is
stopped. He noted temporary flashing yellow lights are put up to warn drivers of a
change in driving conditions at a particular location. He commented that since this
particular "Stop" sign can be easily seen, a flashing warning light will not stop
motorists. Commissioner Perry stated increased traffic enforcement might be a solution.
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He said in his opinion, a permanent flashing yellow light will set a precedent and he does
not support putting one at this location.
Commissioner Telesio recommended the temporary flashing lights be installed for the
period the Commission approved, to daily acclimate motorists to a different driving
condition and he also expressed concern about setting a precedent.
Commissioner Johnson stated temporary flashing beacons were installed when "Stop"
signs were put in at the Del Norte/Calle Pina Colada and Via Norte/Del Rey intersections
and people still ran the "Stop" signs.
Chairman Markham inquired about any accident history since the "Stop" signs were
installed and Sgt. Crisp, Temecula Police Department, replied no accidents had been
reported.
Chairman Markham asked about the cost of permanent warning signs. Mr. Moghadam
replied the cost is approximately $15 to $20,000 for a new solar powered two-
directional permanent flashing light in both directions.
Chairman Markham noted on September 25, 1997, flashing lights were approved for 60
to 90 days at that location. Mr. Moghadam stated the initial lights had been stolen were
replaced, vandalized and stolen again within a three-to-four week period.
It was moved by Commissioner Perry, seconded by Commissioner Telesio, that
temporary flashing lights be erected for the remainder of the original 90-day period and
to formally request enhanced enforcement at that intersection,
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Johnson, Perry, Telesio, Markham
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Coe
Chairman Markham inquired about reviewing the intersection from a traffic signal
warrant basis. Mr. Moghadam replied it would be possible to do a new study in
approximately six (6) months and he will report back to the Commission after the study
is completed.
Proposed Driveway - Jefferson Avenue North of Winchester Road
Associate Engineer All Moghadam presented the staff report.
Commissioner Johnson asked if it would be worthwhile to make the present Arco
driveway a "Right-Turn-Only". Mr. Moghadam replied it does not seem feasible for
motorists to go to the north driveway to make a left turn during off-peak hours.
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Carliene Anderson, 41593 Winchester Road, Nichol Investment, representing the
property owners and tenants, stated since motorists cannot make a left-turn out of the
Center between 11:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m. and often cannot turn right due to blockage,
the owners are proposing this driveway for the safety of tenants and clients and it will
be paid for by the owners. She said it is recognized traffic will cut through the Center
and that this will be dealt with internally,
Commissioner Perry asked if the owners would participate in a "No Left-Turn" out of the
existing driveway between certain hours. It was Ms. Anderson's opinion they would be
amenable for specific restricted hours.
Dennis Jackson, 43180 Business Park Drive, representing the applicant, spoke in
support of the driveway.
Chairman Markham recommended enlarging the driveway to 40 feet to facilitate the
three (3) turning movements because with a 26 foot driveway, motorists making a left-
turn out will freeze right-turn movements and possibly even the ability to enter, and
making the driveway a curb-return style to maximize entrance speed.
Chairman Markham asked staff to make certain there is a "No Parking" restriction to the
north on Jefferson Avenue in front of Richie's Dinner, due to sight distance problems.
Mr. Moghadam will determine if the City Council has approved the red curbing on
Jefferson Avenue, if not, he will bring the matter to the January, 1998 Commission
meeting.
It was moved by Commissioner Johnson, seconded by Commissioner Perry, to
recommend the City Council adopt a resolution vacating a portion of restricted abutters
right-of-access to Jefferson Avenue. The own ,ers are to post a "No Left-Turn" sign for
the hours they deem appropriate at the existing driveway, and the driveway is to be
extended to 40 feet.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES:
4 COMMISSIONERS: Johnson, Perry, Telesio, Markham
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Coe
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Median Modifications - Rancho California Road between Ynez Road and Lyndie Lane
Associate Engineer All Moghadam presented the staff report.
Chairman Markham inquired about the timing on the modifications of the Town Center
driveway and the relocation of the crosswalk. Mr. Moghadam stated the Center's
consulting engineer has preliminary drawings and the work should be completed within
two (2) months. He noted all of these on-site improvements are to be paid by the
property owner.
Chairman Markham asked about the schedule for the signalization project of via Las
Colinas. Mr. Moghadam replied the signal is estimated to be operational by July 1998.
Chairman Markham questioned whether consideration had been given to extending the
left-turn lane on Rancho California Road at the Town Center driveway to provide
additional stacking room. If not, he suggested staff alert the Center's consultant to that
possibility. Mr. Moghadam answered he is unaware of any extension consideration
since no median modifications were recommended by the Joint Adhoc/Public Works
Committee.
Owen Wickstrand, 13062 Caminito del Rocio, Del Mar, representing GMS Realty who
is in the process of purchasing the Town Center complex, stated he had been led to
believe Radnor was offering the engineer's studies as their portion of the cost and the
City was paying for the signalization and other changes. He is in support of the left-turn
at Target Center drive to remain open.
Commissioner Perry stated it was his understanding, from a previous meeting, the
Center would pay for all on-site improvements and the City would pay for the street
improvements.
Mr. Moghadam said it was his impression the Center would pay for the proposed on-site
improvements. He commented these on-site improvements will help the Center as
outbound traffic flow will be improved, however, they will not solve the accident
problem on Rancho California Road.
Chairman Markham noted the original action item was to close the median openings at
both driveways. If that is denied or continued, until the signal at Via Las Colinas is
operational for 90 days, the issue can be reconsidered. In the interim, the on-site
improvements do not involve the City; the Cit,y's involvement is modifying the timing
of the signals and the loop detectors tieing into the signal.
It was moved by Commissioner Perry, seconded by Commissioner Johnson, to receive
and file the report of the Public Works Committee/Ad Hoc Committee meeting as
submitted. Second to table the matter until the Via Las Colinas signal has operational
for 90 days.
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The motion carried as follows:
AYES:
4 COMMISSIONERS: Johnson, Perry, Telesio, Markham
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Coe
5. Election of Public/Traffic Safety Commission Chairperson and Co-Chairperson
Commissioner Johnson nominated John Telesio to serve as Chairperson of the
Public/Traffic Safety Commission for the 1998 calendar year. The nomination was
unanimously accepted.
Commissioner Johnson nominated Ron Perry for Co-Chairperson, who will assume the
duties of the Chairperson in his absence, for the 1998 calendar year. The nomination
was unanimously accepted.
TRAFFIC ENGINEER'S REPORT
Mr. Moghadam reported the following:
The field work for the interconnection and timing of City traffic signals is near
completion. A consulting engineer is currently inputting the software and new
timing, and will provide one (1) year for training and monitoring the system.
Traffic signals in design and to be advertised soon: Fire Station No. 84 at Pauba
Road; Meadows Parkway at Rancho California Road; Santiago Road at Margarita
Road; and Rainbow Canyon Road at Pala Road. The design for the signal at Via
Las Colinas will begin shortly.
A preliminary design for signal and median installation on Winchester Road at
Enterprise Circle West and Jefferson Avenue will be presented to the
Commission in the near future.
Preliminary design for flashing warning beacons, which are to be installed near
schools on high vehicular volume streets, is complete.
Chairman Markham asked if the Intelligent Management System (ITMS) has the
capability to show the entire signal system and feedback capability regarding traffic
counts, etc. Mr. Moghadam stated this system will show a map of the City and all
signalized intersections which will enable staff to determine if a signal is malfunctioning
and timing, as needed, can be changed from the office. He mentioned there is the
possibility of adding options, such as counts, loops, etc. Chairman Markham asked staff
to demonstrate the system to the Commission after it is operational and Mr. Moghadam
indicated he will try for a February 1998 presentation.
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Chairman Markham reported Don Spagnolo, POE., Capital Improvements Principal
Engineer, has accepted a position in the California Central Coastal area.
Chairman Markham inquired about the status of the Overland Drive Bridge and Pala Road
Bridge. Mr. Moghadam replied he was not aware of a schedule for the Overland Drive
Bridge and design is completed for the Pala Road Bridge, with an anticipated completion
by the end of 1999.
Commissioner Johnson asked staff to look at the northbound left-turn signal at
Margarita Road and Winchester Road. Mr. Moghadam stated he will review the signal
and notify Caltrans.
Commissioner Perry asked about the locations for the permanent flashing lights on Ynez
Road. Mr. Moghadam replied exact locations have not been determined, but he is
comfortable with the present southbound location. Commissioner Perry expressed his
disagreement with that location because when the warning is seen, the "Stop" sign is
also visible. He would prefer a location just before the top of the hill; and for
northbound, just around the curve. Mr. Moghadam stated that proposed southbound
location was considered, but then the flashing light would be placed in front of a
residence. He mentioned the effectiveness is lost if located too far away from the
"Stop" sign.
POLICE CHIEF'S REPORT
Commissioner Johnson expressed his satisfaction in seeing the radar trailer throughout
the City. Sgt. Crisp reported there had been 189 hours of use in November.
Commissioner Johnson mentioned enforcement is needed at the southbound off-ramp
at Winchester Road and Interstate 15. Sgt. Crisp stated enforcement has been present
during peak hours at this location.
Commissioner Telesio reported 20 to 25 skateboarders are skating through the Town
Center in the off-hours creating potential accidents. Sgt. Crisp stated he will pass the
information to the swing shift officers as well as the Center's security.
Chairman Markham inquired about the status of reviewing other cities' ordinances
relative to false alarms. Sgt. Crisp stated he had been conducting a study shortly after
the issue was raised. Chairman Markham suggested the Fire Department could hand out
an awareness flyer about false alarms when undertaking the annual building permit
inspections. Chief Winder stated Temecula needs a more flexible policy.
FIRE CHIEF'S REPORT
Chief Winder stated he will make arrangements for a tour of the new fire station for the
Commissioners.
Chairman Markham inquired into the status of staffing a fire station at French Valley
Airport. Chief Winder stated that the County is looking into the staffing of this facility.
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Chairman Markham reported at the Tuesday, December 9, 1997 City Council meeting,
staff was directed to consider obtaining a consultant to review the southbound off-ramp
at Rancho California Road and Interstate 15. He noted the southbound Winchester Road
ramp is presently being designed. Chairman Markham clarified traffic controllers being
are proposed to direct traffic at Hwy 79S/I-15 Interchange during construction.
Chairman Markham stated at the December 2, 1997 Murrieta Council meeting, Council
selected three (3) representatives to serve on an interview panel to select a firm to
update the Circulation Element of the Temecula General Plan. Mr. Moghadam explained
that due to the proposed mall the City of Temecula and invited members of the City of
Murrieta staff to participate in the consultant selection process. Chairman Markham
asked about Temecula's representation on the panel. Mr. Moghadam responded a
Councilmember, Planning Commissioner Guerriero, and Public Works Director Kicak have
been designated to serve. Chairman Markham asked that the City Engineer be strongly
encouraged to request the City Council appoint Commissioner Johnson to the panel.
Chairman Markham noted a letter received from Mr. "Curt" Curtsinger expressing his
appreciation for the Commission's action and responsiveness regarding the "Stop" signs
at Ynez Road and La Paz Street.
Commissioner Perry asked staff to review the idea of monitoring intersections with
cameras for red light violations and suggested a field trip to a city where they are used
effectively. Mr. Moghadam reported they are effective where some of the cameras are
portable so motorists are not aware of the day-to-day locations.
Commissioner Telesio asked for clarification from an enforcement viewpoint of the "25
MPH when children are present" sign. 'Sgt Crisp stated the 25 MPH is enforced one (1)
hour before and one (1) hour after school and whenever school guards are present.
Commissioner Johnson noted the flashing yellow lights, to be erected around schools,
will flash one (1) hour before and after school.
Chairman Markham commented the City of Temecula came through the recent rain in
good shape and Chief Winder indicated he had not heard of any problems.
Chairman Markham asked staff to look into the paving of Santiago and John Warner
Roads.
Chairman Markham asked staff to develop a schedule for the studies, such as
Winchester Road/Jefferson Road, Meadowview and Los Ranchitos areas.
Chairman Markham discussed changing the time of the meeting to 6 PM.
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It was moved by Commissioner Perry, seconded by Commissioner Johnson, to adjourn
the Public/Traffic Safety Commission meeting to the third Thursday of January 1998 at
6 PM, and requested staff to prepare a resolution to the Commission, establishing the
third Thursday of each month at 6:00 PM as the scheduled meeting time for the
Public/Traffic Safety Commission.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES:
4 COMMISSIONERS: Johnson, Perry, Telesio, Markham
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Coe
It was moved by Commissioner Telesio, seconded by Commissioner Perry, to adjourn the
meeting at 9:06 PM. The motion carried unanimously.
The next regular meeting of the Public/Traffic Safety Commission will be held on Thursday,
January 15, 1998, at 6:00 P.M., Temecula City Hall Council Chambers, 43200 Business Park
Drive, Temecula, California.
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