HomeMy WebLinkAbout092000 PC MinutesMINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 20, 2000
CALL TO ORDER
The City of Temecula Planning Commission convened in a regular meeting at 6:00 P.M.,
on Wednesday September 20, 2000, in the City Council Chambers of Temecula City
Hall, 43200 Business Park Drive, Temecula, California.
ALLEGIANCE
The audience was led in the Flag salute by Commissioner Telesio.
ROLLCALL
Present:
Commissioners Chiniaeff, Mathewson, Telesio, Webster,
and Chairman Guerriero.
Absent: None.
Also Present:
Deputy City Manager Thornhill,
Director of Planning Ubnoske,
Director of Public Works Hughes,
Attorney Curley,
Deputy Director of Public Works Parks,
Development Services Administrator McCarthy,
Fire Safety Specialist Davidson,
Associate Planner Donahoe,
Assistant Planner Anders,
Project Planner Thornsley, and
Minute Clerk Hansen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
No comments.
1 A.qenda
RECOMMENDATION:
1.1 Approve the Agenda of September 20, 2000.
2
Minutes
RECOMMENDATION:
2.1 Approve the minutes of August 1, 2000.
It was noted that Commissioner Webster abstained with regard to this item.
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3 Director's Hearin,q Update
RECOMMENDATION
3.1 Receive and File
MOTION: Commissioner Webster moved to approve Consent Calendar Item Nos. 1-3.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Chiniaeff and voice vote reflected approval
with the exception of Commissioner Webster who abstained with respect to Item No. 2..
COMMISSION BUSINESS
4 Date for Planninq Commission Workshop
In response to the Commission's desire to address certain topics of discussion (i.e., ex-
parte communications) via a Commission Workshop, Director of Planning Ubnoske
queried the Commission for a desired scheduled date.
After additional discussion the Planning Commission Workshop was scheduled for
October 18, 2000.
5 Topics for Discussion
Chairman Guerriero relayed that the Commission would forward any suggested topics
for discussion at the workshop via e-mailing staff.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
6 Planning Application No. 00-0261 (Specific Plan Amendment) located north of
Rancho California Road off of Promenade Chardonnay Hills and Meadows Parkway
south of Parducci Lane and ,qenerally north of Rue Jadot consistin,q of all lots in Tract
No.'s 23100-61 23100-7 and 23100-8 - Thomas Thornsley
RECOMMENDATION:
6.1 Adopt a Notice of Exemption for Planning Application No. 00-0261 pursuant to
Section 15061 (b) (3) and make a determination of consistency with a project for
which an EIR was previously certified (Section 15162 - subsequent EIRs and
Negative Declarations of the CEQA Guidelines); and
6.2 Adopt a resolution entitled:
PC RESOLUTION NO. 2000-
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA RECOMMENDING THAT THE
CITY COUNCIL APPROVE PLANNING APPLICATION
NO. 00-0261 (SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 5) TO
AMEND THE TEXT WITHIN THE MARGARITA VILLAGE
SPECIFIC PLAN'S DESIGN GUIDELINES, FOR
VILLAGE "B", RELATED TO THE SIZE AND
VARIATION OF RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS TO
BE BUILT IN PLANNING AREAS 8, 10, 11, AND 12,
GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF RANCHO
CALIFORNIA ROAD OFF OF PROMENADE
CHARDONNAY HILLS, EAST OF MEADOWS
PARKVVAY SOUTH OF PARDUCCI LANE AND NORTH
OF RUE JADOT CONSISTING OF ALL LOTS IN TRACT
NO'S. 23100-6, -7, AND -8.
Chairman Guerriero and Commissioner Mathewson advised that they would be
abstaining from this agenda item.
Commissioner Telesio relayed that he had received notice regarding this project at his
residence, querying the boundary radius of this project.
In response to Commissioner Telesio, Project Planner Thornsley relayed the boundaries
of the noticing for this project.
Attorney Curley advised that it would be appropriate to continue this matter until there
was further investigation to determine whether Commissioner Telesio's residence was
located within the noticed radius, noting that if Commissioner Telesio was required to
abstain, the Commission would not have a quorum, and the Rule of Necessity would
become applicable.
After additional discussion, Attorney Curley provided the parameters for determining
whether a Commissioner should abstain from an item, recommending that if it was the
Commission's desire, this item could be considered out of sequence in order for staff to
further investigate the distance parameters that encompassed this project.
MOTION: Commissioner Chiniaeff moved to consider Agenda Item No. 6 out of
sequence, after hearing Agenda Item No. 7. The motion was seconded by
Commissioner Webster and voice vote reflected unanimous approval.
Agenda Item No. 6 was considered after Agenda Item No. 7; see page 5.
7 Planninq Application No. 00-0350(Specific Plan Amendment) located in Old Town
Temecula - Patty Anders
RECOMMENDATION:
7.1 Adopt a Notice of Exemption for Planning Application No. 00-0350 pursuant to
Section 15061 (b) (3) of the CEQA Guidelines;. and
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7.2 Adopt a resolution entitled:
PC RESOLUTION NO. 2000-032
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA RECOMMENDING THAT THE
CITY COUNCIL APPROVE PLANNING APPLICATION
NO. 00-0350 (SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT) TO
AMEND THE SIGN STANDARDS IN CHAPTERS III AND
IV OF THE OLD TOWN SPECIFIC PLAN.
Via overheads, Assistant Planner Anders presented the staff report (via agenda
material), relaying the rationale for the modifications; noted that the revisions would be
inclusive of additional flexibility with respect to the following: 1) permitted monument
signage (for uses with a front setback of ten feet or greater), 2) allowance for signage to
be placed on a creative architectural element with an antiquated appearance (consistent
with the Old Town Western motif), 3) the increase of permitted sign colors from three to
four colors, and 4) the utilization of generic directional signage which would be brought
back to the Commission for review; and indicated that on page 2 of the staff report, in
Section A, the proposed amendment should be corrected to read as follows: Anyproject
that proposes to provide space for more than one tenant shall provide a comprehensive
sign plan prior to approval of a planning application.
For Commissioner Mathewson, Assistant Planner Anders confirmed that the above-
mentioned correction would also apply to the ordinance; relayed that clarification could
be added to the text of the ordinance in Section D to specify that the 16 square-foot
permitted size of the monument sign would apply to the signage being double-faced; and
noted that on page 14 of the resolution in Section 3.E. there was language regarding the
allowance of four colors on a single sign, relaying that the ordinance would also be
inclusive of this language.
In response to Commissioner Webster, Assistant Planner Anders confirmed that this
proposed amendment had been reviewed by the Old Town Local Review Board.
For Commissioner Chiniaeff, Assistant Planner Anders relayed that the Old Town
merchants' expressed comments had been the impetus for beginning the process of
amending the Old Town Specific Plan in order to meet their desire for additional flexibility
with respect to sign standards.
MOTION: Commissioner Webster moved to approve staffs recommendation inclusive of
staff's modifications. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Chiniaeff and voice
vote reflected unanimous approval.
It was noted that at 6:19 P.M. the meeting recessed, reconvening at 6:31 P.M.
At this time the Commission considered Agenda Item No. 6.
6 Planninq Application No. 00-0261 (Specific Plan Amendment) located north of
Rancho California Road off of Promenade Chardonnay Hills and Meadows Parkway
south of Parducci Lane and generally north of Rue Jadot consistinq of all lots in Tract
No.'s 23100-6, 23100-7 and 23100-8 - Thomas Thornsley
RECOMMENDATION:
6.1
6.2
Adopt a Notice of Exemption for Planning Application No. 00-0261 pursuant
to Section 15061 (b) (3) and make a determination of consistency with a
project for which an EIR was previously certified (Section 15162 -
subsequent EIRs and Negative Declarations of the CEQA Guidelines); and
Adopt a resolution entitled:
PC RESOLUTION NO. 2000-
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA RECOMMENDING THAT THE
CITY COUNCIL APPROVE PLANNING APPLICATION
NO. 00-0261 (SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 5) TO
AMEND THE TEXT WITHIN THE MARGARITA VILLAGE
SPECIFIC PLAN'S DESIGN GUIDELINES, FOR
VILLAGE "B", RELATED TO THE SIZE AND
VARIATION OF RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS TO
BE BUILT IN PLANNING AREAS 8, t0, 11, AND 12,
GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF RANCHO
CALIFORNIA ROAD OFF OF PROMENADE
CHARDONNAY HILLS, EAST OF MEADOWS
PARKWAY SOUTH OF PARDUCCI LANE AND NORTH
OF RUE JADOT CONSISTING OF ALL LOTS IN TRACT
NO'S. 23100-6, -7, AND -8.
Chairman Guerriero relayed that staff had determined that this matter would be
continued to the October 4, 2000 Planning Commission meeting.
At this time the Commission resumed the regular order of the Agenda and heard
Agenda Item No. 8.
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Planninq Application No. 98-0481 (VVolf Creek Specific Plan No.12); No. 98-0487
(Wolf Creek Environmental Impact Report); No. 98-0484 (VVolf Creek General Plan
Amendment); and No. 00-0052 (Wolf Creek Tentative Tract Map No. 29305) on
parcels totalinq 557 acres located on the east side of Pala Road, between Loma
Linda Road and Fairview Avenue - Carole Donahoe
RECOMMENDATION:
8.1 Adopt a resolution entitled:
PC RESOLUTION NO. 2000-
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA RECOMMENDING THAT THE
CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE GENERAL PLAN
AMENDMENT FOR WOLF CREEK (PLANNING
APPLICATION NO. PA98-0484), AND APPROVE THE
WOLF CREEK SPECIFIC PLAN (PLANNING
APPLICATION NO. 98-0481) ON PARCELS TOTALING
557 ACRES LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF PALA
ROAD, BETWEEN LOMALINDA ROAD AND FAIRVlEW
AVENUE, AND KNOWN AS ASSESSOR'S PARCEL
NOS. 950-tt0-002, -005, -033 AND 950-180-00t, -005, -
006 AND -010.
8.2 Adopt a resolution entitled:
PC RESOLUTION NO. 2000-
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA APPROVING PLANNING
APPLICATION NO. 00-0052 (TENTATIVE TRACT MAP
NO. 29305) THE SUBDIVISION OF 557 ACRES INTO 47
LOTS WHICH CONFORM TO THE PLANNING AREAS,
OPEN SPACE AREAS, SCHOOL AND PARK SITES OF
THE WOLF CREEK SPECIFIC PLAN, LOCATED ON
THE EAST SIDE OF PALA ROAD, BETWEEN LOMA
LINDA ROAD AND FAIRVlEW AVENUE, AND KNOWN
AS ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NOS. 950-110-002, -005, -
033 AND 950-180-001, -005, -006 AND -010.
8.3 Adopt a resolution entitled:
PC RESOLUTION NO. 2000-
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA RECOMMENDING
CERTIFICATION OF THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT REPORT PREPARED FOR THE WOLF CREEK
SPECIFIC PLAN AND RELATED ACTIONS (PLANNING
APPLICATION NO. 98-0482) AND RECOMMENDING
ADOPTION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL FINDINGS
PURSUANT TO THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY ACT, A STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING
CONSIDERATIONS, AND A MITIGATION MONITORING
AND REPORTING PROGRAM IN CONNECTION
THEREWITH FOR THE WOLF CREEK SPECIFIC PLAN,
LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF PALA ROAD,
BETWEEN LOMA LINDA ROAD AND FAIRVIEW
AVENUE, AND KNOWN AS ASSESSOR PARCEL NOS.
950-1'10-002, -005, -033 AND 950-'180-00'1, -005, -006
AND -010.
Commissioner Chiniaeff advised that he would be abstaining with respect to this matter,
and therefore left the dais at this time.
Associate Planner Donahoe presented the staff report (of record), noting that the
applicant has prepared a document report (provided via supplemental agenda material)
which outlined the responses to the Commission comments that were expressed at the
September 6, 2000 Planning Commission meeting; reviewed the memorandum provided
by staff (per supplemental agenda material) which was inclusive of the following 1)
Addendum No. 2 to the Final Environmental Impact Report by Cotton-Beland which was
inclusive of analysis related to the proposed park in lieu of the previously planned school
site, 2) Revised Conditions of Approval for Planning Application No. 98-0481-Wolf Creek
Specific Plan No. 12, which was inclusive of two revisions with respect to Condition No.
64 (regarding the Fire Station site), and the addition of Condition No. 63 (regarding
funding mechanisms), 3) Revised Conditions of Approval for Planning Application No.
00-0052 Tentative Tract Map No. 29305, 4)(Original) Mitigation Monitoring Program for
the Wolf Creek Final Environmental Impact Report which had not been revised, and 5)
Revised PC Resolution for Planning Application No. 00-0052 (Tentative Tract Map No.
29305), which had been modified per the City Attorney's advisement due to this approval
going before the City Council; noted the provision of a copy of a letter dated September
20, 2000 from Ms. Pamela Miod (her third correspondence) outlining her concerns
regarding the negative impacts of the project; relayed that the Pechanga Indian
Reservation had also provided a correspondence dated September 20, 2000 addressing
their comments regarding the Environmental Impact Report, noting that this was their
third correspondence; reiterated that the applicant's representatives would provide a
presentation to address the Commission's previously expressed comments; with respect
to the Development Code requirements for Water Conservation techniques regarding
Industrial and Commercial projects in the City, advised that with respect to residential
projects, the requirement was applicable to apartment complexes, as well as slopes,
medians, and common areas within a residential project, clarifying that the requirement
was not imposed on individual homeowners; noted that staff did request that one of the
model homes in a residential project demonstrate water conservation techniques, and
plantings to serve as an educational tool; relayed that on page 15 of the applicant's
report (which outlined the responses to the Planning Commission comments) there were
revisions to the Specific Plan regarding the design and the content of the private
recreation facility; and provided additional information regarding the Pala Road portion of
the project, detailing the design for the proposed meandering sidewalks.
In response to Commissioner Webster, Deputy City Manager Thornhill relayed that the
park site had been discussed during Closed Session with the City Council, advising that
while he could not disclose specific details, that at this point in time the progress with the
applicant seemed to be moving along favorably, providing additional information
regarding the upcoming Developm, ent Agreement process, and the 40-acre size of the
park site; advised that once the deal points have been finalized, specific factors
regarding the agreement would be disclosed; for Commissioner Telesio, relayed that the
data the applicant would present would reveal a reduction in peak hour trips and
average daily trips with the proposed park site in comparison to the previously planned
school site; and relayed that staff was comfortable with the proposed densities of the
project.
For Commissioner Telesio, Associate Planner Donahoe relayed that on page 3 of the
Addendum (per supplemental agenda material), there was a revised Specific Plan table,
which represented the amount of dwelling units proposed with the park site proposal.
For Commissioner Webster, Associate Planner Donahoe relayed that on page 12 of the
Conditions of Approval for the Specific Plan that Condition No. 70 addressed cul-de-sac
lengths which had not been revised, relaying that the standards were also denoted on
page 18, Condition No. 103 of the Conditions of Approval for the map.
In response to Commissioner Webster's queries, Fire Specialist Davidson relayed that
additional research was conducted regarding the cul-de-sac length standards, providing
additional information regarding the associated City ordinance, advising that the Fire
Department's condition requiring that the maximum cul-de-sac length not exceed 1320
feet for this particular project was due to the area currently being in a high fire area,
noting that after this development project was completed, this area would no longer be
considered a high fire area; and noted that if it was the City's desire to reduce the length
of the cul-de-sacs on the individual maps to 660 feet, the Fire Department would have
no objections.
Commissioner Webster noted that it was his recollection that the City's ordinance
associated with cul-de-sac lengths had been linked to zoning classifications.
In response to Commissioner Mathewson's queries regarding Condition No. 64
(regarding the Fire Station site), Deputy City Manager Thornhill relayed that this issue
would most likely be addressed in the Development Agreement, providing additional
information regarding the possibility of the developer being reimbursed for a portion of
the associates costs; for Chairman Guerriero, advised that the City would likely
coordinate the development of the Fire Station, relaying that it could potentially be
constructed within a 1.5-2.5 year period.
Mr. William Griffith, representing the applicant, addressed the park issue, noting that the
applicant has made an offer to the City regarding the park site land; advised that this
particular project would meet the new park standards, and not be grandfathered with the
old park standards; relayed that the project would meet the Quimby requirements and
the Development Impact Fee obligations through a combination of dedication and
improvement of parks within the City, as well as, the land dedicated for the City to
develop the regional park; noted that Mr. Burnell would provide visuals to specify the
components of the proposed 40-acre regional park site; for Commissioner Mathewson,
provided additional information regarding the total project density of 2022 dwelling units
with the Senior Housing complex component verses a total project density of 1881 units
with the Courtyard or Patio home component, advising that under the Iow density range
of the General Plan (without the high school) the Iow density range would be 1889 units.
For Commissioner Mathewson, Mr. Camille Bahn, the applicant's representative,
clarified the calculation of the Iow-density range, noting the variables, Associate Planner
Donahoe confirming the applicant's utilized analysis to develop the Iow-density range.
Mr. Barry Burnell, the applicant's representative, presented a detailed overview of the
applicant's response to the Commission comments which had been relayed at the
September 6, 2000 Planning Commission meeting. (It was noted that via supplemental
agenda material, the applicant additionally provided a document report book outlining
the applicant's detailed responses to the Commission comments in written form.)
Mr. Burnell addressed the previous comments and queries of the Commission, as
follows:
Provided an overview of the Land Plan.
With respect to the queries regarding the potential regional park, provided a detailed
project plan of the City Sports Park on a 40.0 acre site in Planning Area 24, noting
that the City would be holding community workshops prior to the final design of the
park site; provided additional information regarding the revisions to the alternate
parks with the 40-acre park site; and provided data regarding the density changes if
the park proposal did not go forward. For Commissioner Webster, advised that there
was not a proposed collector road in between the residential area and the park site
along the north boundary, while relaying that there could potentially be roads
fronting the park site, noting that this would be addressed during the subdivision
planning.
With respect to the recommendation that Pala Road be constructed as six (6) lanes
to Wolf Valle,/Road, advised that the developer would provide the right-of way for a
6-lane road. Mr. Griffith provided additional information regarding the 6-lane road
dedication of Pala Road to Wolf Valley Road, noting that the applicant has
committed to participate in the improvements to Pala Road including noise
attenuation.
With respect to the feasibility of traffic circles on the project loop road, provided the
rationale for not proposing a traffic circle with this particular project; for
Commissioner Telesio, noted that traffic circles are most effective when the traffic
volumes are equal on both streets. Mr. Griffith provided additional information
regarding traffic circles located in alternate cities. Director of Public Works Hughes
relayed that the Public Works Department was of the opinion that traffic circles
would not be appropriate for this particular project plan, provided additional
information regarding the installations. Mr. Burnell noted that traffic calming would
be addressed in an alternate portion of the presentation.
With respect to the EIR issues, noted that the applicant's representative from Cotton
Beland and Associates (CBA) would address these matters at a later point in the
meeting.
With respect to the recommendation to update the SP Zone Ordinance, relayed that
the text has been revised to conform to the Zoning Matrix.
With respect to the recommendation to provide additional specificity in the lan.quaRe
of the Desi.qn Guidelines with respect to density bonuses, provided additional
information regarding the relationship between the potential senior housing
component and the density bonuses.
With respect to the recommendation to utilize narrower local streets and separated
sidewalks, relayed data noting the pros and cons of narrower streets, advising that
the City's Public Works Department was opposed to the use of narrower local
streets. For Commissioner Webster, Director of Public Works Hughes relayed
additional information regarding the City's adopted street standards for the various
classifications of streets, noting that the option for a 36-foot curb-to-curb width was
typically utilized on short cul-de-sacs, noting that the option for a 32-foot curb-to-
curb width was utilized with restricted parking on one site of the street, or if there
was no need to park on both sides of the street; advised that if this project was to
revise the street widths, there would be negative impacts with respect to emergen(~y
access issues; additionally provided data regarding the separated sidewalk issue,
noting that the primary concerns were the maintenance costs, and the liability
issues; in response to Commissioner Mathewson, relayed that even if there were
non-evasive rooting trees designated for planting in this area, that historically
various homeowners replace the trees with an alternate tree that would create the
negative impacts with respect to maintenance issues. For Commissioner
Mathewson, Mr. Burnell relayed that there was no plan to have the HO^ be
responsible for the neighborhood parkway maintenance. For Commissioner
Mathewson, Director of Public Works Hughes provided additional information
regarding the standard mailbox installation. Mr. Burnell clarified that in the locations
where the City allowed the narrow street widths, the applicant was proposing this
element.
With respect to the recommendation to include the "modified grid" in the Design
Standards., relayed that this element would be added to the Specific Plan as a
design guideline.
With respect to the recommendation to provide more options for qara.qe placement,
noted that the applicant has provided six options (included in the supplemental
agenda report) which would be included in the Specific Plan as samples for garage
placement.
With respect to the recommendation to provide a certain percentaqe of single story
homes., advised that there was a lengthy response included in the report document
addressing this issue on page 7.
With respect to allowance of granny fiats on larger lots, relayed that this provision
was denoted in the Design Guidelines. For Commissioner Telesio, Director of
Planning Ubnoske provided additional information regarding the permitting process
for construction of a second unit, noting that at times the granny fiats were attached.
With respect to the recommendation for lar.qer sin.qle family detached lots, and the
recommendation to provide alternating lot widths within a single tract, presented the
land plan for the first two tract layouts, providing additional information regarding the
proposed lot sizes, noting the goal to keep a range of values within the project. For
Commissioner Webster, Mr. Bahn provided additional information regarding "H-H"
Street represented on the site plan rendering (included in the supplemental agenda
report documents).
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With respect to the recommendation to coordinate the maximum home size with the
lot size., Mr. Burnell relayed the associated analysis, noting that it was standard to
provide requirements for a percentage of lot coverage.
With respect to the recommendation to provide standards re,qardinc~ (3ara(~es in lieu
of carports, noted that the Design Guidelines do encourage garages, relayed that
language had been added stating that if carports were planned the design element
should resemble garages from a visual perspective.
With respect to the recommendation to split the villaqe commercial areas relayed
the importance of ensuring a viable commercial center, providing additional
information regarding the proposed commercial centers; and advised that the
applicant was strongly opposed to separating the commercial centers. Mr. Griffith
provided additional data regarding the uses proposed in the centers and the goal to
provide synergy between the centers, noting that these areas would not be a
significant Citywide attraction to the site due to the scale of the project.
With respect to the recommendation to incorporate civic and public uses into the
village center, and to set aside land for a church and a village square, noted that the
Plan did provide for a neighborhood park, an elementary school, a l-ire Station site,
a private recreation facility, options for a public library, daycare facilities, community
halls, churches, and colleges (university branches).
With respect to the recommendation for provision of a raised landscape median on
Wolf Valley Road, via site plan overheads, relayed that there would be provision of a
median on Wolf Valley Road at the point where one is entering the village center,
noting the break in the median due to the location of the Fire Station, advising that
this design pan had not been finalized.
With respect to the recommendation for a raised median on Pala Road prior to build
out of Phase I, relayed that the design for Pala Road was inclusive of a median,
noting that the difficulty with installing the median at an early point in time due to the
need for the road to be cut and re-crowned to provide for the ultimate width.
With respect to recommendation for provision of an additional signal on Pala Road
between the project loop road and Wolf Valley Road, noted that signals would be
installed based on warrants, advising that there would be provision of merging lanes
(acceleration and deceleration lanes). Director of Public Works Hughes provided
additional information regarding the potential for this refuge area. For Commissioner
Telesio, with respect to the six lanes on Pala Road, Mr. Griffith noted the applicant's
desire to alleviate loading traffic onto Pala Road; and provided additional information
regarding the circulation plan.
With respect to inclusion of soccer fields in the regional park plan, noted the design
for four soccer fields on the preliminary plan; for Commissioner Mathewson, Deputy
City Manager Thornhill relayed that it was the Council's desire to get input from the
community prior to the development of the final plans on the park project. Mr.
Burnell provided an overview of the entire preliminary park plan.
With respect to the recommendation to provide enhanced corner monumentations,
relayed that the entry areas were set aside, advising that there were concepts for
this element included in the Specific Plan. Chairman Guerriero commented on the
importance of this element. In response, Mr. Gfiffith relayed that one of the most
significant monument elements of the project would be the grass-lined channel at
the entry to the project.
With respect to the recommendation to refer future density modifications to the
Planning Commission, noted that there would be no density increases in this project
without Commission review.
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With respect to AQMD requirements, advised that these requirements would be
met, noting that this data would be brought forward into the Final EIR.
With respect to the desire for an equestrian trail, which a resident had commented
on at the September 6th meeting, specified the location of the proximate equestrian
trails.
It was noted that at 8:13 P.M. the meeting recessed, reconvening at 8:27 P.M.
The applicant's representative from Cotton Beland Associates (CBA) addressed the EIR
issues which had been raised by Commissioner Webster at the September 6, 2000
Planning Commission meetinq, as follows:
With respect to the General Plan's requirement for a Transportation Demand
ManaRement (TDM) Plan for Specific Plans, relayed that TDM Plans are typically
required for non-residential plans to address employee trips, advising that since this
project was primarily residential, the EIR does not require a TDM Plan; noted that
Mitigation Measure Nos. 6, and 7 (on page 53 of the FEIR) and No. 10 (on page 68)
address transit needs; and relayed the elements the project incorporates to
encourage non-motorized transportation. Commissioner Webster clarified that his
query was based on the General Plan's requirement.
With respect to the recommendation to incorporate further definition in the Air
Quality Miti,qation Measure, specifically with respect to Ener,qy Conservation
measures and Southcoast Air Quality ManaRement District Rule Nos. 402, and 403,
noted that the FEIR refers to Rule Nos. 402, and 403 on page 53 of the document,
advising that the measure does not specify what the rules require since the rules
may be amended during the construction life of the project; advised that the manner
in which the mitigation is stated accommodates any potential rule changes; noted
that, additionally, Measures 3, 4, and 5 provide specificity regarding control of soil
amounts, unpaved areas, and dirty trucks; with respect to Energy Conservation,
relayed that City ordinances require compliance with Title 24 of the Health and
Safety Code, reiterating that the mitigation measure did not specify precise
requirements, but instead provided for flexibility in the event that those change in the
future; and with respect to Rule Nos. 402, and 403, advised that this was related to
any sort of noxious air emission, and to fugitive dust, noting the associated existing
requirement imposed on all projects within the Southcoast Air Basin.
With, respect to the recommendation to specify the time of the required studies for
Noise Miticlation No. 4, relayed that Condition No. 17 of the Specific Plan indicates
that such studies shall be required prior to an issuance of building permits.
With respect to queries regarding DrainaRe Miti,qation Measure No. 8, specifically
the timeframe for downstream improvements, noted that Measure No. 8 specifies
that the timing shall be specified by the director of Public Works, relaying that per
the City and County requirements, the developer will be required to construct any
and all improvements necessary for protection of the downstream properties; and
advised that this issue was addressed on Condition Nos. 31-38 of the Specific Plan.
With respect to the queries regarding the FEIR not respondinq to Comment 11-1
(Utilities Section), and the lack of inclusion in the MMRP, relayed that the Specific
Plan conditions would address MWD's concerns; noted that the MMRP only
contains mitigation measures from the FEIR, and not from Specific Plan conditions;
and advised that the City had a separate program for ensuring implementation of
Specific Plan conditions.
With respect to the queries regarding the September 6, 2000 letter from the
Pechan,qa Indian Reservation with respect to dissatisfaction with the mitigation
measure for Cultural Resources, noted that Mitigation Measure No. 1 of the FEiI~
responded directly to comments received from the Pechangas, relaying that the
measure was revised to include by name a representative of the Pechangas to be
on site monitoring and involved with recovery operations, as needed; provided
additional information regarding the developer's willingness to involve the
Pechangas in the pre-construction meetings; relayed that under CEQA
requirements, it was not necessary to include this element in the FEIR. Mr. Bahn
noted that the applicant desired to relay for the record his willingness and
commitment to work with the Pechangas with respect to monitoring. Chairman
Guerriero noted the Commission's receipt of a letter dated September 20, 2000 from
the Pechangas, relaying their desire to be involved in the initial excavation process.
Mr. John L. Macarro, attorney for the Pechanga Indian Reservation, relayed the
concern with respect to the desire for the developer to enter into a pre-excavation
agreement and construction-monitoring plan, providing additional information
regarding the FEIR. Commissioner Webster recommended that to address the
Pechangas' concerns that the developer contract with the Pechangas to provide
monitors. Mr. Griffith concurred with Commissioner Webster's comments, noting the
applicant's willingness to meet with the Pechangas, relaying that as a reciprocal
measure the applicant should also be asked to review development plans on the
Pechanga site in order to ensure that there would be no negative impacts on the
Wolf Creek project site.
With respect to the Cumulative Impact Analysis in the FEIR, which utilized the
General Plan EIR which incorporated 1989 SCAG baseline data, relayed that the
General Plan EIR assesses the impacts associated with full implementation of the
General Plan if all properties were to develop in accordance with General Plan Land
Use Policy, not SCAG Growth Policy; noted that the number of residential units
proposed in this Specific Plan was less than that allowed by the General Plan;
provided additional information regarding CEQA requirements. Commissioner
Webster relayed that his query was based on the baseline 1989 data that the
General Plan EIR utilized, recommending that the cumulative impacts should be
more adequately addressed due to the data the analysis was based upon being
inadequate. For Commissioner Webster, the applicant's representative relayed that
under CEQA requirements, the applicant could utilize the List Approach or the
General Plan.
At this time the Commission heard the public comments associated with this project, as
follows:
Mr. Mark Broderick, 45501 Clubhouse Drive, noted his opposition to the project based
on the following concerns: 1) the proposed lot sizes under 7200 square feet, 2) traffic,
air, and noise impacts, 3) the lack of an additional arterial route to Highway 79 South to
accommodate the project's traffic impacts.
Mr. Peter Lucier, 31257 Hiawatha Court, noted that he was neither opposed to nor a
proponent of the project; thanked the applicant for addressing concerns regarding noise
mitigation, and the elimination of the multi-family options in the subdivision; relayed
concern regarding the following: 1) the permitted uses in the commercial center,
specifically with respect to a gas station or convenience store selling alcohol, 2) traffic
and lighting impacts, 3) recommended that Pala Road be constructed as six lanes to
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Wolf Valley Road, 4) queried the gap in the signal installations, 5) recommended the
addition of a pool facility in the City Sports Park, 6) unresolved issues with the City
regarding the widening of Pala Road and the use of noise mitigation, and 7) concurred
with Mr. Broderick's recommendation for an additional arterial route to Highway 79
South.
For Mr. Lucier, Deputy City Manager Thornhill relayed that service station uses, and
liquor stores were not permitted uses in the commercial center; and advised that the
Commission could address whether mini-markets should be a permitted use.
Mr. William Kelley, 31542 Via San Carlos, noted that he was a proponent of this project,
relaying that the applicant has addressed three major concerns, as follows: 1) traffic
control, 2) densities, and 3) community planning; thanked the Commission, specifically
Commissioner Webster, for their thorough review of this project; and relayed that the
property rights of this property owner should be respected, and the project should move
forward.
The following individuals addressed the concerns of the Pechanga Indian Reservation:
Mr. John Gomez
Mr. Karl Fuller
Mr. John L. Macarro
30176 Pechanga Drive
28761VailBrook
31889 Vineya~ Avenue
The above-mentioned individuals relayed the following comments and concerns:
Noted that while there was no opposition to the project, that it was vital that impacts
to Cultural Resources be addressed, relaying a desire for the developer to work with
the Pechangas to develop a pre-excavation or treatment plan to address monitoring,
the manner in which artifacts will be dealt with, and the handling of native American
remains.
Queried how the change in densities would impact Air Quality, relaying concern with
this project exceeding the standard thresholds, noting the sensitive receptors on the
Pechanga property.
Queried the lack of reference in the EIR to the elementary school in Redhawk as a
sensitive receptor, and the lack of reference to the residences on the Pechanga
property being sensitive receptors.
Relayed concern regarding drainage impacts.
Noted that the Pechanga Indian Reservation has submitted three correspondences
which outline the desire for there to be a pre-excavation agreement prior to this
project's approval.
For Commissioner Telesio, Mr. Gomez provided additional information regarding the
potential for artifacts to be discovered at the project site.
Mr. Griffith responded to the comments expressed, as follows:
Relayed hopes that there was recognition of the work that staff, and the applicant
have accomplished to deliver a defining project for this part of the City of Temecula.
Noted that when the property was acquired it had been designated as a Town
Center in the City's General Plan.
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Noted the efforts to work with the neighborhood, the School District, and the various
City departments to develop a plan to address many of the needs of the community,
both locally, and as a whole.
Relayed the excitement regarding the regional park, noting that the commitment to
the land dedication was testimony to this fact; relayed that an additional benefit was
that the City had funds available to immediately implement the park plan.
Noted the elements (i.e., the open space, the greenbelts, and the drainage plan)
that the applicant has proposed to create an excellent project.
Advised that the applicant has made diligent efforts to cooperate with the City and
the surrounding development via the dedication of roads, and drainage easements.
Relayed that the applicant has created a plan that addressed many of the local
concerns, noting the support of Assessment District 159, the financial support of
Pala Road, the financial support of Highway 79, relaying the significant available
capacity for this project to develop with the widening of Pala Road, and with
Highway 79 South.
With respect to the comments from the public, noted that Mr. Lucier, representing
his HOA has brought forward valid issues, reiterating his comments which stated
that if those issues were addressed he would support the project; advised that he
represented a significant amount of homeowners in this area; relayed that the
applicant had worked with Mr. Kelley to develop an interim parking facility to aid in
the impacts at Kent Hindergardt Park; advised that if Mr. Lucier's, and Mr. Kelley's
representation was combined with the representation of the acreage and entitlement
within the Wolf Creek site, this support for the project represents a majority of
landowners within this segment of the City; noted the efforts of the applicant to also
address the issues with respect to the County, relaying the commitment to mitigate
all of the environmental, traffic, and drainage issues.
With respect to the Pechanga comments, noted the applicant's willingness to work
with the Pechangas on Cultural Preservation.
In concluding, urged the Commission to support this project, noting that it
represented two years of rigorous work, expressing appreciation for the detail in
which the Commission has reviewed this project; and requested the Commission's
support in allowing this project to move forward to the City Council.
Chairman Guerriero noted for the record the receipt of Ms. Pamela Miod's letter dated
September 20, 2000.
Commission discussion ensued, as follows:
Commissioner Mathewson relayed that overall he was pleased with the data presented,
and the efforts of the applicant to address the issues raised at the prior Commission
meeting; expressed appreciation to staff for aiding in this compilation of information, and
to the residents for their comments which generally relayed the acceptance of this
proposal; with respect to the density issue, appreciated the commitment to a proposed
approximately 2000 dwelling units with the senior component; relayed a desire for
additional data regarding the average lot size in each Planning Area; noted a desire for
the elimination of the 4,000-4500 square foot lots, and to maintain a 5,000 square foot
minimum lot size; provided additional information regarding his opposition to the 4,000-
4500 square foot lots; noted his desire to ensure a mix of one-story, and two-story units;
commented on the front yard setbacks, noted that the request to reduce this to fifteen
feet was driven by the 4,000-4500 square foot lots, advising that if this element was
eliminated, the City's Development Standards could be maintained at a twenty-foot
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average; relayed his desire for there to be an agreement regarding the noise ,attenuation
along Pala Road; with respect to the Pechanga issues, noted concurrence with
Commissioner Webster's previous recommendation to utilize monitors from the
Pechangas; with respect to amenities, relayed that the overall development met the
expectations of the GMP, detailing the proposals; with respect to the Sports Park site,
noted that it had been relayed that the Quimby requirement would be met, advising that
this issue would be dealt with at the Council level as the Development Agreement
proceeds; noted that while the Linear Park did not meet the Quimby requirements in his
opinion, that the total park acreage would most likely satisfy the requirements; advised
that overall the project was sound, and a benefit for the City and the surrounding area;
relayed that the project did address major concerns in terms of traffic; and reiterated the
need to focus on the following: 1) the Design Guidelines in terms of a one-story, and
two-story mix, 2) to address the noise attenuation, and 3) to increase the minimum lot
size to 5,000 square feet.
Commissioner Telesio noted that he was pleased with the manner in which the applicant
has addressed issues regarding this project; relayed that the housing mix was consistent
with the GMP, specifically with the addition of the senior component, and the elimination
of the multi-family options; commented on the proposed signalization; with respect to Air
Quality issues, noted the efforts to address the associated traffic impacts and to
minimize the proposed densities; commented on the market issues with respect to the
sale of smaller homes verses larger homes; echoing Commissioner Mathewson's
recommendation, relayed that he would favor a minimum lot size of 5,000 square feet,
noting that it would be beneficial to have specific data related to the number of smaller
lots proposed; relayed that he was concerned with respect to the Linear Park and its
relation to the Quimby requirements; and advised that overall, he concurred with
Commissioner Mathewson that this project was a good plan that would be beneficial to
the City, noting that the infrastructure concerns have been addressed.
Noting the numerous revisions made to the documents recently, Commissioner Webster
relayed that in order for him to make a decision on this project he would need to have a
compiled, complete document, relaying that he would not be comfortable forwarding this
segmented data to the Council; recommended that the applicant bring back a final
document outlining the final proposal in order to clarify the project plan; with respect to
the CEQA issues, noted that there were some mitigation measures that needed to be
more detailed, and that the cumulative impact analysis needed to be revised;
recommended a continuance; and relayed a desire for staff to resolve the issue with
respect to the Commission's desire for implementation of narrow streets and parkways,
noting his desire to have these elements incorporated into the plan.
In response to Commissioner Webster's comments, Deputy City Manager Thornhill
recommended that this be passed on to the Council in order for that body to grapple with
the issues.
Chairman Guerriero advised that he was comfortable with this project, noting that the
proposal was the best use for this site; relayed that there would be negative impacts on
the surrounding area if the project was not developed (i.e., drainage impacts, traffic
impacts), noting the benefits this project setforth; with respect to the General Plan,
relayed that this developer has met and exceeded the requirements, noting the Iow
densities, the traffic improvements, the pleasing visual aesthetics which would relate to
increased property values; commended the applicant for the regional park proposal
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which would save the City an exorbitant amount of money; specified numerous elements
under the scrutiny of thorough review with this project, as follows: development of
parkland and trails, preservation of historic buildings or sites, additional open space,
preservation enhancement of natural habitat, additional community public facilities,
public spaces or plazas for community use, amenities in multi-family development,
transit facilities and additional right-of-way along future transit quarters, meeting the
needs of Iow-income households, provision of cultural facilities, bike paths, and
designated village centers, relaying the plethora of provisions this project would provide,
noting that the project had provisions for all the integral elements with the exception of
prevision for light rail; and advised that this proposal was one of the best projects he
had seen, commending staff and the applicant for a job well done, relaying that his vote
would support this project.
Commissioner Mathewson acknowledged Commissioner Webster's concern with
respect to obtaining an overall understanding of the project proposal with the compilation
of one document; relayed that the overall project was good, noting that there were some
issues that needed to be addressed (i.e., the one-story, two-story mix of housing units);
noted that he would not be opposed to continuing this matter in order for all the data to
be compiled; and relayed that the Commission should further discuss the expectations in
the residential units, and the permitted uses in the commemial areas.
Commissioner Telesio acknowledged that there were some details of the project which
should be addressed; concurred with Chairman Guerriero, that this was a high quality
project; relayed that in his opinion it would be helpful for the data to be incorporated into
one comprehensive document; and commended the applicant for the diligent work on
the project, and the cooperation with the Pechangas and the community.
Commissioner Webster reiterated the need for a complete document, which would
provide clarification, relaying that this provision would most likely expedite the review
process at the Council level.
MOTION: Commissioner Telesio moved to continue this matter in order for the data to
be compiled into one document, and for the applicant to address the Commission
comments. (Ultimately this motion died for lack of a second,)
In response to Chairman Guerriero, Attorney Curley relayed that there were several
elements comprising the Final EIR, noting the Specific Plan document, and the alternate
planning documents; relayed that it was typical for the EIR to be comprised of more than
one element; acknowledged the Commission's discomfort with receiving updated data
and new information at the meeting tonight, noting that even though the data had been
reviewed with great detail, the Commission was relaying a desire to read through the
material; noted the Commission's desire for one comprehensive document, relaying that
there would not be additional analysis or alternate conclusions, but simply a re-
packaging of the information; noted that it was the Commission's charge to make a
recommendation to Council; relayed that the Commission was to make
recommendations regarding the proposed plan, as presented, advising that the
Commission could recommend approval, denial, or changes, noting that this
recommendation would go to the Council for consideration; clarified that the Commission
was not obligated to re-craft the development proposal in any way, but to comment on
what has been presented; relayed that if it was the consensus of the Commission that
there should be no small lots, that this could be the Commission's recommendation - to
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approve the project subject to no small lots; and relayed that if the compilation of the
data into one uniform document would provide clarification to the Commission, then
recommendations could be relayed with respect to that document.
Deputy City Manager Thornhill clarified that in order for the applicant to address all the
comments relayed at the last meeting, the information could not be provided soon
enough for early distribution to the Commission; and relayed that if it was the
Commission's desire to continue the matter, staff was of the opinion that the information
could be re-packaged in a two-week period, advising that at that point the Commission
could provide direction to the Council regarding the small lot issues.
Director of Planning Ubnoske noted that October 4, 2000 was the next scheduled
Planning Commission meeting; and suggested that if it was the Commission's desire to
continue the matter that since most of the comments had been clear and would not
require additional discussion, she would recommend that the comment regarding
concern with respect to the permitted uses within the commercial centers be specified in
order for this information to be incorporated into the document presented.
Chairman Guerriero relayed that after numerous hours of reviewing this project, the
matter would be continued in order for the Commission to receive a comprehensive
document, and make a final determination.
Mr. Sam Alhadeff, attorney representin,q the applicant responded to the Commission
comments, as follows:
Requested that the public comment portion of the meeting be closed.
Requested that at the October 4, 2000 meeting the Commission move this project
forward to the City Council for review.
Relayed that there had been Herculean efforts expended by the applicant in order to
address the previous Commission comments in a two-week period; requested
assurance that the new document would be distributed to the Commission at a point
in time where there would be adequate time for review. In response, Deputy City
Manager Thornhill noted that as soon as staff received the data it would be hand-
delivered to the Commissioners' residences.
Reviewed the comments expressed by the Commission that would need to be
addressed by the applicant, as follows: 1) the Quimby requirements for the Linear
Park, 2) the question of the mix between one-story and two-story homes, and 3) the
issue of lot size; noted that it was his understanding that Deputy City Manager
Thornhill had clarified the issues related to permitted uses in the commercial
centers.
Queried whether there were other concerns the Commission desired to have
addressed, noting the desire to have a complete understanding of the Commission's
concerns.
The Commission relayed concluding comments, as follows:
Commissioner Mathewson sympathized with the applicant's diligent efforts to address
the Commission's previously expressed comments (which had been addressed via an in
depth review presentation and via a report document book which outlined in written form
the applicant's response to those comments with additional data, and attachments),
noting his concurrence that the Commission should clarify and conclude the comments
that needed to be addressed; with respect to the permitted uses in the Community
Commercial area, relayed his recommendation that liquor store uses not be permitted,
noting that in his opinion, hotels, motels, and auditoriums should not be permitted uses,
requesting input with respect to these permitted uses.
For Commissioner Mathewson, Deputy City Manager Thornhill relayed that he had erred
in a previous comment, noting that in the Community Commercial area liquor store uses
were not prohibited; in response to Commissioner Mathewson's queries, relayed that it
was his opinion that drive-throughs, liquor stores, car washes, and automotive repair
facilities should not be permitted uses within this particular Village Center.
With respect to his concerns regarding the residential area, Commissioner Mathewson
reiterated his recommendation to maintain a minimum 5,000 square foot lot size; with
respect to the Development Standards in terms of setback maximum lot coverage,
relayed that it was his understanding that if the smaller lots were eliminated the City
Development Standards would satisfy the 5,000 square foot lots and greater; and with
respect to the one-story, and two-story mix of units, noted that this was a vital concern of
his, relaying a desire for assurance of a certain percentage of one-story units, Chairman
Guerriero relaying that he would support this recommendation.
Commissioner Webster relayed that in order to approve a Village Center complex, he
would recommend that with respect to the Community Commercial uses that taverns
and pubs be permitted uses; advised that there needed to be additional dedicated public
use areas in the Village Center area, noting the desire for a dedicated site for a church,
or similar use; noted that in his opinion the church use did not belong in the commercial
area, but should be placed in the public, civic center.
In response to Commissioner Webster's comments, Associate Planner Donahoe relayed
that the Public Facilities Planning Area was to follow the Public Institutional Development
Code Zone which would allow church uses with a Conditional Use Permit (CUP).
Commissioner Webster relayed his desire, if feasible, to have a dedicated site for a
church on the property. In response, Director of Planning Ubnoske relayed that the
concern with this recommendation was that if there was a required dedicated church site
and subsequently there was no church desiring to locate to this area, the requirement
would tie up the property.
Commissioner Telesio relayed his recommendation that the developer have a clear
understanding of what issues should be addressed; and queried what percentage of
one-story homes would satisfy the desire of the Commission. In response,
Commissioner Mathewson relayed that a thirty-three percentage (33%) of one-story
units would satisfy his concerns.
With respect to the commercial area, Commissioner Telesio relayed that the scale of the
center needed to be considered; relayed that he would not be opposed to a pub, tavern,
or specialty wine shop use in this area; relayed a desire for a clearer definition regarding
the scope of the proposed establishments; with respect to lot sizes, concurred with the
recommendation to maintain a minimum lot size of 5,000 square feet, noting that the
units in the courtyard homes could be increased to compensate for the loss of housing
units; and reiterated that it was vital that the Commission provide clear direction as to the
issues needing to be addressed in order for this project to move forward with
recommendations to the City Council at the next Commission meeting.
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Commissioner Mathewson concurred that the taverns, and nightclub uses should remain
as permitted uses in the Community Commercial area; relayed that the continuance was
based on Commissioner Webster's recommendation to compile the data into one
document; noted that his concerns were related to the Design Guidelines, the specifics
of the commercial element, and the residential; in terms of the proposed lighted Sports
Park, recommended that there be a commitment that the buyers of homes within a
quarter mile radius of that Sports Park be notified that the Sports Park would be lighted;
and reiterated that the alternate issue of concern was with respect to a noise attenuation
agreement.
In response to Chairman Guerriere, the applicant relayed that the Sports Park Plan (with
lights) would be conveyed to homebuyers in this area.
Chairman Guerriero relayed that he had no desire to over-review this project, advising
that when the documents were accumulated the data should be satisfactory; requested
the Commissioners to fax or e-mail any additional concerns to the applicant by
September 24, 2000; and relayed a desire to move this project forward to the City
Council as soon as possible, with Commission recommendations.
The applicant responded to the Commission's concludin.q comments, as follows:
Mr. Griffith relayed that with respect to the density issue, it was the applicant's goal to
look 5-10 years into the future, noting the increasing energy costs, relaying that the small
lot. proposal came forward as a distinct and viable project niche as a replacement for
community concerns regarding a multi-family component, advising that this element
would provide young families an opportunity to purchase a single-detached home; noted
that with architectural and site planning some of the ills of the small lots have been
corrected, relaying that most builders had an established and well-defined product line
that suits the size of the lots; noted that the applicant had made numerous concessions
in order to increase the open space areas (i.e., the grass-lined channel), relaying the
need to cluster; advised that the differential from a visual perspective between 4,000-
5,000 square foot lots would be minimal, providing additional information regarding the
potential streetscape; relayed that this site was fiat, with no habitat issues, noting that
the site provided an opportunity to densify without substantial hillside grading; relayed
the marketing issues associated with the proposal of smaller lots; advised that the
narrower streets worked well with the smaller lots; for Commissioner Telesio, clarified
that the 4,000-4500 proposed lots were minimums, relaying that at some point in the
future, based on market conditions, the plan may be revised to increase the minimum lot
sizes to 5,000-6,000 square feet; noted that in the areas that encompassed the smaller
lot sizes, the average lot size would most likely be between 5,500-6,000 square feet,
relaying that on the 6,000 square foot lots there would be an opportunity to provide
single story units; advised that rather than focusing on the minimum lot size, it may be
more appropriate to focus on average lot sizes; with respect to the alternate issues that
have been expressed, noted that these matters could be addressed, relaying that it was
the applicant's goal to create a City-friendly Town Center, concurring with the
recommendation to include a pub use in the center; with respect to the single-story
element, advised that this would fit within the lot mix category; and apologized for the
plethora of data the applicant recently provided, noting the need to address multiple
Commission comments.
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Chairman Guerriero applauded the applicant for the continued diligent efforts to address
additional comments, accepting one more delay in order to compile the data for the
Commission's consideration.
Mr. Burnell clarified that with respect to the CEQA document, that the applicant would
not be dissecting the EIR and re-packaging this element with all the fine details of the
evolved project; relayed that the design concepts in the provided booklet (per
supplemental agenda material) could be incorporated into the Specific Plan document; in
response to Commissioner Webster, relayed that it would not be feasible to provide a
detailed layout of every Planning Area at this point in time, relaying that this level of
detail would come when the tracts came forward.
Commissioner Mathewson reiterated that he still was concerned with the proposed
smaller lot sizes, providing additional information regarding this issue; and with respect
to the separated sidewalk issue, queried the Commission for input regarding this
element.
In response, Chairman Guerriero referenced the City's Land Use Element, specifically
Policy No. 5.3 which stated to encourage a variety in the design of sidewalks and trails
with respect to alignment and surface materials to provide a convenient and enjoyable
experience for the users, noting that landscaped medians separating the sidewalks was
a safer method of foot transportation, relaying that if the concern was maintenance, then
there could be a Iow maintenance groundcover installed (i.e., junipers), advising that this
element improved the streetscape. Commissioner Mathewson concurred with
incorporating this element in the plan.
In response to commissioner Mathewson's queries, Commissioner Telesio relayed that
he could understand that from a marketing perspective the 4,000-4500 square foot lots
would create a saleable, desirable product; noted that if the lots could be addressed via
design elements and lot widths he would not oppose the smaller lots; and advised that
breaking up the uniformity of the visual appearance would alleviate his concern with
respect to the smaller lots.
Commissioner Mathewson relayed that there would be no guarantee that the smaller lots
would be treated with appropriate design concepts, and lacking that assurance he could
not support proposed lot sizes less than 5,000 square feet,
Chairman Guerriero relayed that in the Land Use Element under Policy 5.6 it stated
encourage higher density mixed use development and supporting public and community
facilities within a Village Center, recommending that the Council should consider
amending this policy point if this was not the desired implementation; advised that he
had seen projects incorporate smaller lots with a pleasing visual appearance, noting his
concurrence with Commissioner Mathewson that he would be opposed to all two-story
units.
In response to Commissioner Telesio, Commissioner Mathewson relayed that he would
consider elements that would alleviate his concern regarding the smaller lots; noted that
in his opinion the senior housing and courtyard components address the previously
mentioned policy statement.
Mr. Griffith clarified that the unique feature of this property was that the 4,000-4500
square foot lots would not have slopes included; and noted that the applicant was willing
to consider a single-story unit commitment; relayed that the specific details of the tracts
would be provided when the City approved the individual housing developments in the
future; noted that street scene and architectural elements could be reviewed at the stage
that the project was approved for housing, relaying that the Master Plan could not be
inclusive of the design of every house in each tact; and provided additional information
regarding the impacts of the implementation of street trees, noting the applicant's
proposal for large tree plantings in the paseo areas.
Deputy City Manager Thornhill relayed that in the Specific Plan various product types
demonstrated varied front elevations; and advised that varying height, elevations,
setbacks, and architectural elements may alleviate the'concern of the Commission with
respect to the smaller lots.
MOTION: Commissioner Mathewson moved to continue this matter to the October 4,
2000 Planning Commission meeting. Commissioner Webster seconded the motion and
voice vote reflected approval with the exception of Commissioner Chiniaeff who
abstained..
COMMISSIONER REPORTS
With respect to the Promenade Mall area, Commissioner Webster relayed that
there was a weed abatement issue that needed to be addressed, specifically
around the Iccp road, in the area between North General Kearny and the Power
Center.
With respect to the previously mentioned issues at the mall site, Commissioner
Webster queried whether these matters needed to be agendized.
In response, Director of Planning Ubnoske relayed that staff was aware of the
issues, noting that with the current workload there had not been time to address
the matters, providing assurance that staff would come back to the Commission
with additional information at a future point in time.
Chairman Guerriero relayed that he had attended the Inland Empire Economic
Development Luncheon held on September 20, 2000, noting that the key
speakers were from the Metropolitan Water District, relaying that he had provided
the Commissioners with a copy of the handout which had been supplied at the
meeting, which describes the proposals around the Diamond Valley Lake;
provided additional information regarding the potential for significant negative
impacts on Winchester Road due to a lack of adequate infrastructure, noting that
there were efforts in the County to address some of the traffic impacts; advised
that these impacts should be considered by the City Council due to the potential
negative impact this project could have with respect to traffic in the City of
Temecula.
PLANNING DIRECTOR'S REPORT
No input.
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ADJOURNMENT
At 10:42 P.M. Chairman Guerriero formally adjourned this meeting to Wednesday,
October 4, 2000 at 6:00 P.M., in the City Council Chambers, 43200 Business Park
Drive, Temecula.
Ro n 'G u~e r'r{e o¢~,~'-- -
Chairman
Debbie Ubnoske,
Director of Planning