HomeMy WebLinkAbout120600 PC MinutesMINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
PLANNING COMMISSION
DECEMBER 6, 2000
CALL TO ORDER
The City of Temecula Planning Commission convened in a regular meeting at 6:00 P.M.,
on Wednesday December 6, 2000, in the City Council Chambers of Temecula City Hall,
43200 Business Park Drive, Temecula, California.
ALLEGIANCE
The audience was led in the Flag salute by Commissioner Telesio.
ROLLCALL
Present: Commissioners *Mathewson, Telesio, Webster, and
Chairman Guerriero.
Absent:
Commissioner Chiniaeff.
Also Present:
Deputy City Manager Thornhill,
Director of Planning Ubnoske,
Deputy Director of Public Works Parks,
Development Services Administrator McCarthy,
Attorney Curley,
Attorney Paula Gutierrez Baeza,
Fire Captain McBride,
Project Planner Saied Naaseh,
Associate Planner Donahoe,
Project Planner DeGange, and
Minute Clerk Hansen.
*(Commissioner Mathewson arrived at 6:20 P.M.)
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mr. John Lynn, 32237 Placer Belair, relayed his comments regarding Agenda Item No. 3
at this time since the item was not a public hearing item; read into the record his
comments (which were submitted to staff at the meeting) regarding his recommendation
for the Planning Commission to recommend a change to the City Code to eliminate
compact parking spaces for the following reasons: that vehicles of all sizes utilized the
compact spaces, the frequent damage to vehicles, and the narrowed access lanes.
For Commissioner Webster, Director of Planning Ubnoske relayed that staff would be
bringing forward a Development Code amendment in approximately two to three
months.
Commissioner Webster recommended that the Commission discuss this item at this time
in order to provide direction to staff, recommending that when Development Code
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Amendment is brought before the Planning Commission, that this matter could be
addressed at that time.
Commissioner Telesio relayed that primarily people are driving larger cars at this time,
concurring with Mr. Lynn that vehicles of all sizes do utilize the compact parking spaces;
and noted that he was not opposed to consideration of one standardized size for all
parking spaces.
Mr. Lynn relayed that there are existing compact parking spaces in the City that are
below the minimum size (per Code requirements).
Chairman Guerriero concurred with Mr. Lynn, recommending that after additional
investigation, that the Planning Commission consider making modifications with respect
to allowing compact parking spaces.
It was determined that the compact parking spaces issue would be agendized for a
future meeting.
Agenda
RECOMMENDATION:
1.1 Approve the Agenda of December 6, 2000.
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RECOMMENDATION:
2.1 Approve the minutes of October 4, 2000.
MOTION: Commissioner Webster moved to approve Consent Calendar Item Nos. 1,
and 2. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Telesio and voice vote reflected
approval with the exception of Commissioners Chiniaeff and Mathewson who were
absent.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
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Compact Parking Spaces
It was determined that this issue would be agendized for a future meeting.
Planning Application No. 98-0484 (Wolf Creek General Plan Amendment); No. 98-
0481 (Wolf Creek Specific Plan No. 12); No. 00-0052 (Wolf Creek Tentative Tract
Map No. 29305); No. 00-0029 (Wolf Creek Development Aqreement); and 98-0482
(Wolf Creek Environmental Impact Report) on parcels totaling 557 acres located on
the east side of Pala Road between Loma Linda Road and Fairview Avenue - Carole
Donahoe
RECOMMENDATION:
4.1 Adopt a resolution entitled:
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PC RESOLUTION NO. 2000-037
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA RECOMMENDING THAT THE
· CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE GENERAL PLAN
AMENDMENT FOR WOLF CREEK (PLANNING
APPLICATION NO. 98-0484), AND APPROVE THE
WOLF CREEK SPECIFIC PLAN NO. 12 (PLANNING
APPLICATION NO. 98-048t) ON PARCELS TOTALING
557 ACRES LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF PALA
ROAD, BETWEEN LOMALINDA ROAD AND FAIRVlEW
AVENUE, AND KNOWN AS ASSESSOR PARCEL NOS.
950-110-002, -005, -033 AND 950-180-001, -005, -006
AND -010.
4.2 Adopt a resolution entitled:
PC RESOLUTION NO. 2000-038
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA RECOMMENDING
APPROVAL OF PLANNING APPLICATION NO. 00-0052
- TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 29305, THE
SUBDIVISION OF 557 ACRES INTO 47 LOTS WHICH
CONFORM TO THE PLANNING AREAS, OPEN SPACE
AREAS, SCHOOL AND PARK SITES OF THE WOLF
CREEK SPECIFIC PLAN, LOCATED ON THE EAST
SIDE OF PALA ROAD, BETWEEN LOMALINDA ROAD
AND FAIRVlEW AVENUE, AND KNOWN AS ASSESSOR
PARCEL NOS. 950-110-002, -005, -033 AND 950-180-
001, -005, -006 AND -010.
4.3 Adopt a resolution entitled:
PC RESOLUTION NO. 2000-039
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA RECOMMENDING THAT THE
CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE WOLF CREEK
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DEAL POINTS
(PLANNING APPLICATION NO. 00-0029) AS NOTED IN
EXHIBIT A, ON PARCELS TOTALING 557 ACRES
LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF PALA ROAD,
BETWEEN LOMA LINDA ROAD AND FAIRVlEW
AVENUE, AND KNOWN AS ASSESSOR PARCEL NOS.
950-110-002, -005, -033 AND 950-180-001, -005, -006
AND -010.
4.4 Adopt a resolution entitled:
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PC RESOLUTION NO. 2000-040
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF TEMECULA RECOMMENDING
CERTIFICATION OF THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT REPORT PREPARED FOR THE WOLF CREEK
SPECIFIC PLAN AND RELATED ACTIONS (PLANNING
APPLICATION NO. 98-0482) AND RECOMMENDING
ADOPTION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL FINDINGS
PURSUANT TO THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY ACT, A STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING
CONSIDERATIONS, AND A MITIGATION MONITORING
AND REPORTING PROGRAM IN CONNECTION
THEREWITH FOR THE WOLF CREEK SPECIFIC PLAN,
LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF PALA ROAD,
BETWEEN LOMA LINDA ROAD AND FAIRVlEW
AVENUE, AND KNOWN AS ASSESSOR PARCEL NOS.
950-110-002, -005, -033 AND 950-180-00t, -005, -006
AND -010.
By way of overheads, Associate Planner Donahoe presented the staff report (of record),
noting that the project had been presented to the Planning Commission on September 6,
September 20, and October 4, 2000, advising that at the October 4th Planning
Commission meeting the Planning Commission moved to recommend denial of the
project; relayed that at the October 16, 2000 Planning Commission meeting the Planning
Commission considered the Resolutions of denial prepared by the City Attorney's office,
noting that during consideration of the Resolutions, the Planning Commission moved to
reconsider the project which was the rationale for the project being presented at this
time; advised that it had been the Planning Commission's request for the developer to
address the items specified in the Findings associated with the Resolutions of denial for
this hearing; noted that Attachment No. 6 (per agenda material) was the developer's full
written response regarding the resolutions, advising that she would be summarizing the
data; and relayed that Project Planner Naaseh would present the Development
Agreement points for the Planning Commission's consideration in order for the Planning
Commission to provide a recommendation and comments to the City Council.
Associate Planner Donahoe recapitulated the recent modifications to the project, as
follows:
· Noted the revision from the planned high school site to the proposed 40-acre sports
park which triggered the following revisions: the modification of the Community
Park to the current proposed Neighborhood Park, and the Neighborhood Park
which was now proposed as an activity node.
· Relayed that the multi-family apartments were removed as one of the options,
noting that there still existed an option for senior multi-family housing in Planning
Area No. 18.
· Advised that the small lots (4,000-4500 square foot lots) have been eliminated,
noting that the minimum lot size would be 5,000 square feet.
Noted that the single-family dwelling Courtyard Housing in Planning Areas, 7, 10,
and 18 would come forward with Planned Development Overlay (PDO) zones.
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With respect to the implementation of narrower streets, noted the exhibit entitled
"Option 2 - Through Local Streets," advising that this element would be
implemented, where feasible, in the neighborhoods, noting that the parkway
landscaping would need to be maintained by an HCA.
With respect to the revisions to the Commercial Areas in Planning Area No. 12, and
13, noted that the applicant did provide a revised list of commercial uses in
response to the Commission's previously expressed comments.
Advised that the applicant updated the matrix with the Zoning Ordinance, reflecting
the lot size changes, noting that the lot coverage was not modified, advising that it
was the applicant's opinion that with the existing setback standards the lot
coverage would not be a significant factor.
Associate Planner Donahoe relayed that she would not address the issues which were
covered in the Development Agreement, while noting that the cul-de-sac length was
revised to reflect a 600-foot maximum in lieu of 1320 feet; with respect to the request to
have Energy Conservation Measures implemented into the Specific Plan, relayed that
Conditions of Approval were added to address this issue; with respect to the request for
coordination with Metropolitan Water District regarding the pipelines at the south end of
the project, noted that mitigation measures and conditions have been included to
address this matter; noted the request of the Temecula Community Services District to
add three additional conditions to the Specific Plan (presenting the conditions via
overheads), advising that these conditions would ensure that if the Development
Agreement was not approved, that there would be the ability to revert back to the original
format in terms of the Community Park and the Neighborhood Park in order to meet
Quimby requirements; and relayed that Development Services Administrator McCarthy
was available for questions from the Planning Commission regarding these particular
conditions.
For Chairman Guerriero, Associate Planner Donahoe clarified the rationale for the
language if feasible being added to the document, noting the need for flexibility.
Commissioner Webster queried why a joint City Council/Planning Commission workshop
regarding this project was never held, referencing comments from previous meetings. In
response, Director of Planning Ubnoske noted that staff did meet with the City Council
regarding the Development Agreement. Associate Planner Donahoe noted, additionally,
that there have been several meetings held with the Subcommittee, relaying that
Councilman Naggar and Councilman Pratt served on this Subcommittee, confirming that
no Planning Commissioners were on this particular Subcommittee.
For Commissioner Telesio, Associate Planner Donahoe clarified that the courtyard
option would not be restricted to seniors only, noting that these dwellings would be
single family units, advising that there was no language added which would preclude the
developer from designating this area for seniors only.
It was noted that Commissioner Mathewson arrived to the meeting at 6:20 P.M.
Project Planner Naaseh presented the Development Agreement Deal Points (per
supplemental agenda material), noting that staff has been negotiating with the applicant
for the past few months, advising that the City Attorney and the applicant's attorney are
still working out the legal details of the Development Agreement document; relayed that
the Deal Points represented in the data were sufficient information for the Planning
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Commission to make a recommendation to the City Council; presented a detailed
overview of the Deal Points of the Development Agreement; and for Commissioner
Telesio, clarified that the ten percent (10%) was added to the DIF component for the
parks, advising that the City would be receiving ten percent (10%) more than the current
DIF for parks, noting that this amount was included in the $2,800,000 figure.
For Commissioner Mathewson, Deputy City Manager Thornhill relayed that a DIF
component was adopted, advising that there was a component related to park
improvements.
With respect to the meeting held on Monday, December 4, 2000 with the Subcommittee,
Project Planner Naaseh relayed that the Subcommittee's comments had been added to
the Deal Point summarization data (per supplemental agenda material).
For Commissioner Webster, Project Planner Naaseh relayed that the proposed
Administrative Facility would be located adjacent to the Fire Station site, noting that the
specific plan for this site was undetermined at this point in time.
In response to Chairman Guerriero, Project Planner Naaseh relayed that the proposed
Fire station would enhance the emergency response times for the annexed Vail Ranch
area; and noted that the City was in charge of the construction of the Fires Station site,
advising that the project was conditioned to have the Fire Station be completed by the
400th building permit or the applicant would not be issued any additional building permits
due to the impact with respect to the 5-minute response time. Fire Captain McBride
relayed that the emergency response times for Vail Ranch would not effect this particular
project, advising that this proposed Fire Station would aid in the service of the Vail
Ranch area; and via overhead maps provided additional information regarding the
response times, which would only be improved with the proposed Fire Station with this
particular project.
For Commissioner Telesio, Project Planner Naaseh noted that the entities contributing to
the cost of the sound wall could potentially be Assessment District No. 159, the
Pechangas, or alternate sources.
In response to Commissioner Webster, Deputy Director of Public Works Parks relayed
that the 134' ROW improvement of Pala Road was a right-of-way dedication, noting that
the City would be in control of the improvement plans, advising that it had not yet been
determined whether Pala Road would be constructed as six lanes all the way to Wolf
Valley Road, noting that this issue would be addressed with the City Council.
For Commissioner Webster, Project Planner Naaseh provided additional information
regarding the Subcommittee's recommendation with respect to the applicant being
responsible to pay the future Multi-Species Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP) Fee
when it was adopted, noting that the impacts addressed were regional and not based on
a project by project basis; for Commissioner Telesio, clarified that various Subcommittee
comments had not been agreed to by the applicant; in response to Commissioner
Webster's queries, relayed that the Deal Points provided as supplemental agenda
material were the same Deal Points provided in the agenda packets with the exception
of the addition of the Subcommittee's comments; and clarified Condition No. 65
(referencing page 15), which stated no occupancies will be allowed that will result in a
service level of less than "D' on Pala Road, or at any of the Pala intersections from
Rainbow Canyon Road to Wolf Valley Road.
For Commissioner Webster, Deputy Director of Public Works Parks provided additional
information regarding the Deal Point regarding LOS Level D associated with Planning
Areas 20, 21, 22, and 23, noting that the alternate portions of the subdivision would be
developed within the limits of the LOS at this time; and noted that the casino's plans had
been taken into consideration in the traffic projections presented.
In response to Chairman Guerriero's queries, Project Planner Naaseh noted that the
Wolf Valley 12' median installed between Pala Road and the easterly boundary of
Planning Area No. 14 would be landscaped, advising that if language was not included
in the Specific Plan document to address the landscaping issue, that it would be added.
Deputy Director of Public Works Parks noted that this issue was addressed in Condition
No. 26c. (of the Tentative Map) which required a raised landscaped median.
For Commissioner Telesio, Project Planner Naaseh provided additional information
regarding the permitted uses within Planning Area No. 12 addressed in the Deal Point
data.
With respect to the Neighborhood Commercial Zoning, Commissioner Webster noted
that he had previously recommended that taverns, and bar uses not be excluded,
querying the rationale for these existing exclusions; and relayed that during the previous
public hearing associated with this item, that there had been a verbal agreement
between the developer and the Pechanga tribe with respect to utilizing an Indian monitor
in lieu of an archeologist, noting that he did not see this agreement referenced in the
Specific Plan Condition No. 20, or in the Mitigation Monitoring Program. After additional
investigation, Associate Planner Donahoe relayed that it was determined to leave the
condition as stated, advising that staff was of the opinion that the applicant's agreement
to work with the Pechangas was sufficient; and provided additional information regarding
Condition No. 20 (of the Specific Plan) which addressed this matter.
With respect to the narrow road option, in response to Commissioner Webster's queries,
Associate Planner Donahoe relayed that the Public Works Department would make the
final determination with respect to this implementation, advising that it was anticipated
that, where feasible, this element would be installed in the local neighborhoods. Director
of Planning Ubnoske relayed that if certain criteria were met with respect to the Average
Daily Trips (ADTs) then this element would be implemented. Deputy Director of Public
Works Parks clarified the nexus between the ADTs and the feasibility of this option.
Associate Planner Donahoe relayed that the Planning Commission would have the
opportunity to review the street widths at the time the Tentative Maps are brought
forward for the particular planning areas.
For Commissioner Webster, Public/Traffic Safety Commissioner Edwards relayed that
the narrower streets for the Wolf Valley Project were discussed at a recent Public/Traffic
Safety Commission meeting, noting that it was a receive and file item, clarifying that no
action was taken with regard to this item; and provided additional information regarding
the negative impacts associated with the implementation of 36' wide streets (referencing
the public speaker comments where residents relayed concern with respect to the
impacts regarding the narrower streets implemented in their neighborhood), advising
that it was the consensus of the Public/Traffic Safety Commission that a wider street
width would be more appropriate for reasons of safety.
With respect to Condition No. 17 (of the Specific Plan conditions), regarding reclaimed
water usage, Commissioner Webster queried whether this would need to be in
compliance with Senate Bill 2095 which was the new law recently enacted which was
the Water Recycling and Landscaping Act. In response, Associate Planner Donahoe
relayed that this condition reflected comments received during the environmental review
process, advising that this element was encouraged, where feasible.
With respect to the Findings in the Resolutions for the Tentative Map, specifically
Finding No. G (regarding energy conservation), Commissioner Webster queried how this
issue was implemented in the Specific Plan. In response, Associate Planner Donahoe
noted that the applicant was required to address conservation issues, where feasible.
With respect to Commissioner Webster's queries regarding to the Mitigation Monitoring
Program included with the Findings for the Environmental Impact Report, Associate
Planner Donahoe noted staffs intent to have an inclusive condition in order to be able to
refer back to the General Plan EIR Mitigation Monitoring Measures without increasing
the Mitigation Program, advising that the condition in the Specific Plan referencing this
matter made it subject not only to the Mitigation Measures in the Program but also to the
General Plan.
With respect to Commissioner Webster's queries with regard to the revised densities,
Associate Planner Donahoe relayed that she had utilized the actual dwelling units per
acre of each of the planning areas to obtain the densities in the categories.
In response to Commissioner Mathewson's queries relayed to staff prior to the meeting,
Associate Planner Donahoe relayed that with respect to the densities data, that she had
utilized the net acreage in those areas in her density figure analysis, whereas the
applicant was utilizing a gross number, as opposed to a net figure, advising that she
could understand the rationale for the applicant's figure analysis.
With respect to the Pala Road improvements, Commissioner Mathewson queried
whether staff was of the opinion that the improvements denoted under the CFD were
consistent with the infrastructure improvements in the Conditions of Approval on Phase
I, and II, referencing Condition No. 87a, regarding this issue. In response, Deputy
Director of Public Works Parks relayed that it was the opinion of Director of Public Works
Hughes that if the CFD was formed and the City had control of the improvements, then
building permits would be issued based on the fact that the road system was in the
hands of the City at the time, and was fully funded which meant that the building of the
improvements could proceed, advising that staff was of the opinion that this would
constitute a process similar to bonding for subdivision improvements, ensuring that it
would be built; relayed that in the COAs there still was a requirement to have Pala Road
constructed as four lanes Prior to the Issuance of the first building permit; and advised
that the sound wall would be part of the funded improvements under the control of the
City at that time (via the CFD), noting that it would be completed with the widening and
the ultimate improvements of Pala Road.
It was noted that at 7:18 P.M. the meeting recessed, reconvening at 7:28 P.M.
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After additional investigation, Deputy Director of Public Works Parks relayed that the
project was conditioned so that the developer was required to have in place the interim
four-lane improvements (to Pala Road) prior to the issuance of the first building permit;
noted that there was a traffic study submitted to the City that revealed that in excess of
615 dwelling units could be built on this site without exceeding LOS D on Pala Road with
the four-lane improvement; advised that it was the intention of the City to have in place
the CFD to fund the Pala Road improvement (the ultimate improvements), noting that if
the CFD was in place prior to the issuance of the first building permit then the City would
be in control of the funding mechanism for the road, relaying that the improvements
plans were 70-80% complete at this time, advising that at this point bonds could be sold,
and under the direction of the City staff, the ultimate improvements of Pala Road would
be constructed inclusive of the median and the sound wall; relayed that it would take
approximately 3-6 months to obtain the funding, and approximately 12-18 months to
complete the improvements; confirmed that it was the plan to have these improvements
in place prior to the first occupancies at Wolf Creek, relayed that there was a stop gap in
the Specific Plan which required that prior to the 473rd building permit the fundin_~]
mechanism would have to be in place, and prior to beginning Phase B (the 823ru building
permit) the improvements would have to be completed; and noted that as the Tentative
Tract maps are presented that there would be the opportunity to revisit this issue.
With respect to Commissioner Webster's queries at to whether or not the Development
Agreement was an equitable deal, Associate Planner Donahoe noted that by
comparison, alternate Development Agreements have been set at $500 per dwelling
unit, and that this Development Agreement would be at $1500.
Via overhead slides, Mr. Barry Burnell, representing the applicant, provided an overview
of the Village Center overlay from the General Plan, noting that this project plan was
consistent with the configuration; presented the park sites, and alternate recreational
facilities; specified the location of the canter median, the Fire Station, and the provisions
for turning motions; presented the option plan for the narrower streets, and the
separated parkways; reiterated that the 4,000-4500 square foot lots have been
eliminated which addressed numerous Commission concerns; clarified the use of the
phrase if feasible denoted in the documents, relaying that when there was a menu of
options that would address a particular issue, the phrase if feasible was utilized due to
the situations where it would not be an applicable element; in response to Commissioner
Webster's queries, referenced the section of the Specific Plan under Residential
Orientation where it was stated siting of buildings shall take advantage of natural
elements such as topography, soil orientation, and prevailing breezes, providing
assurance that there was language in the Specific Plan to address this matter, as well as
in the Conditions of Approval; with respect to the recommendation to add bars or tavern
uses to the permitted uses in the commercial area, relayed that the applicant would have
no objection to this addition; and provided additional information regarding the proposed
densities, noting the plan for approximately 1900 units unless the senior housing option
is constructed whereby the densities would be over 2,000 units.
Mr. William Griffith, representing the applicant, relayed that this project plan has had
significant amount of changes to the plan, noting the removal of the 4,000-4500 square
foot lots which was an issue of concern for the Commission and the community; and
clarified that the only apartment alternative would be for the senior housing option,
relaying that the courtyard housing would be units for sale, and not rental housing.
Mr. Griffith provided an overview of various issues addressed in the Development
Agreement, as follows:
· Relayed that with respect to the bullet point addressing the Deer Hollow
improvements, that it was the applicant's desire that this project not be accelerated,
noting that it was the applicant's opinion that the land dedication of 12.37 acreage
with a real value of $2.25 million was a generous and adequate gift to the City,
advising that in light of the alternate circulation priorities, the Deer Hollow project
should not be accelerated;
With respect to the Administrative Facility, noted that this element was included in
response to Commission recommendations for there to be opportunities for civic or
public uses within the Village core;
· With respect to the Fire Station, relayed that the dedication of 1.5 acres for a credit
of $114,000 represents an additional gift to the City of approximately $150,000-
160,000;
· With respect to the CFD description, advised that it would be his desire to amend
the description, as follows: The Pala Road improvements shall include pavement,
curb, gutters, sidewalk, lights, and median landscaping, with the addition of the
sound wall, and the underground utilities improvements, advising that this was a
vital issue as it pertains to the applicant's commitment to the neighborhood
concerns; with respect to the Subcommittee's comments regarding this issue,
noted that the developer offered to advance 100% of the cost of the sound wall in
relation to any interim improvements of Pala Road, noting that the applicant has
met with Mr. Lucier and other members of the community, advising that the
applicant was concerned with the interim improvements of Pala Road not including
the sound wall, providing the rationale for this commitment;
· With respect to the Commercial DIF fees, clarified that to the degree that available
credits are not utilized for the residential area, it would be the applicant's' desire to
have the benefit of applying any residual credits to the commercial area, thereby
reducing the cost of developing this particular area;
· With respect to the Subcommittee's recommendation regarding the Multi-Species
Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP) Fee, advised that at this point the applicant
was not in agreement with this request, relaying that this particular property has no
habitat issues, noting that it was the applicant's opinion that it would not be
equitable for the City to impose this fee since at this point did not exist, and since
this fee would be designed to share the cost of habitat among those developing
habitat;
With respect to the LOS D in Planning Areas No. 20, 21, 22, and 23, relayed that
as indicated by the Public Works Department, that via the current lien of $2 million
on this property, and the prior cash commitment to the development of Highway 79,
that the applicant has a right to certain capacities within this system; advised that
the applicant only anticipated those conditions being exceeded via development of
the County residential developments, clarifying that the applicant was not in
agreement that this issue should be part of the Development Agreement, noting
that the project was conditioned regarding the LOS Level D obligation, and would
not desire to have this project's development stopped via traffic capacity being
utilized by the County developments;
· With respect to the Wolf Valley median, advised that the applicant has agreed to a
12' landscaped median; and
Noted that the applicant has worked diligently with staff with regard to the Deal
Points, relaying appreciation to staff for their hard work, advising that this was an
excellent opportunity for the City to obtain improvements, financing, and
infrastructure upfront, and to address issues of concern with respect to fire stations,
schools, drainage, and parks.
For Commissioner Mathewson, Mr. Griffith clarified the applicant's concern regarding the
Commercial DIF, providing an example, noted that if the number of residential units
developed was reduced, that the applicant would desire to have the residual credits
considered for the commercial area.
In response to Commissioner Telesio, Mr. Griffith clarified that the Adminstrative Facility
would be a public use, noting the potential uses at this site. Attorney Curley clarified the
linkage of uses for this type of DIF fee, noting that this was a Corporate Facilities Fee
that was being negotiated; and relayed that this fee, as sefforth in the City's Ordinances
has limitations on its use which would be for government public, as opposed to a general
community type of use.
For Commissioner Telesio, Mr. Griffith relayed that in discussions regarding the sports
park, there has been discussions with respect to placing clubhouse meeting-type areas
at this site; and noted that one of the permitted uses in the Commercial area id Planning
Area No. 12 would be a church use.
Commissioner Telesio queried the legal issues associated with the Subcommittee's
recommendation that the applicant be responsible to pay the future Multi-Species
Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP) Fee when it is adopted. In response, Attorney
Curley relayed that this fee would be implemented at the point in time that the applicant
was building when the MSHCP was adopted, advising that the fee would not recapture
fees for dwellings that have been built prior to the adoption. For clarification, Deputy City
Manager Thornhill relayed that this fee would become applicable when building permits
were issued, confirming that prior construction would not be subject to the fee; noted that
there was an interim fee being proposed at this time, relaying that the fee was not solely
applied to development with habitat, but that all development paid into the program to
aid in the acquisition of the huge amount of land that would be required as part of the
MSHCP.
With respect to Commissioner Webster's previous recommendation to introduce civic
uses proximate to the Village core, Deputy City Manager Thornhill relayed that at the
Administrative Facility site there was the potential to place a police substation, a building
permitJPlanning Services facility, a Community Services facility (due to the proximity to
the parks), noting that there may be an opportunity to create a mini-annex to City Hall;
and relayed that as a fallback, if the City determined not to utilized this area, then the
type of uses Commissioner Telesio mentioned could be constructed in this area (i.e., a
church use, a daycare use).
Commissioner Webster clarified his recommendations at the previous meeting,
specifically to implement the Village Center Plan with a public use type of element in this
area, specifically recommending that there be a dedicated church site; relayed that with
the Zoning Codes and Laws, a church use is conditionally permitted in all zoning areas;
and advised that in his opinion it was unlikely a church would be developed in the
Commercial areas due to the lack of retail in this area, clarifying that it was his
recommendation to have a designated church site in the Village core, but not in the
commercial area.
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In response to Commissioner Webster, Mr. Griffith relayed that if a churc~ came forward
with an interest to develop a site, he would be willing to convert a portion of the
residential area for a church use, clarifying the impacts of designating a site for a specific
church use which would tie up the property if there was not a church interested in
locating at this particular site; and provided additional information regarding potential
sites for church uses.
Commissioner Webster recommended that there be a church site designated for a
specific period of time. In response, Mr. Griffith relayed that the applicant would be
agreeable to a designated church site in Planning Area No. 12 for a reasonable period of
time as part of the Development Agreement.
Commissioner Telesio noted the potential need for a church site at this site.
With respect to the Pechanga archeological issues, Mr. Griffith relayed that the applicant
intended to work with the Pechangas regarding this issue.
With respect to Commissioner Webster's queries regarding the applicant's written
response to the Findings associated with the Resolutions (per agenda material),
specifically with respect to page 3, second paragraph, at the end where it stated itmust
be assumed that some relief from the City's Development Standards would be granted,
Mr. Burnell noted the following: the elimination of the smaller lots, that certain Open
Space standards have been added, that the Design Standards were extremely
comprehensive, and that the courtyard housing was implemented in lieu of apartment
complexes; and clarified that the applicant was requesting minor areas of relief form the
standards.
With the exclusion of the courtyard housing area, Commissioner Webster queried
whether zero lot lines would be permitted in the project. In response, Mr. Burnell relayed
that a zero lot line would be allowed, noting that it would typically not be utilized in this
project's lot sizes (5,000, 6,000, and 7200 square foot lots), relaying that the applicant
would be agreeable to prohibiting zero lot lines.
At this time Chairman Guerriero opened the public comment period.
It was noted for the record that the following individuals opted not to speak, filling out a
request to speak form solely to register that they were proponents of the project:
[] Mr. Doug Haserot
[] Ms. Lynette Dent
[] Mr. Hugh Young
[] Mr. Donald O. Lohr
[] Mr. Tony Terich
41976 Avenida Alvarado
24970 Carancho Road
45254 Esplendor Creek
43503 Ridge Park Drive
31132 Dog Leg Circle
The following individuals were opposed to the project:
[] Mr. Rick Barrera
[] Ms. Pamela Miod
[] Mr. Mark Broderick
45639 Corte Lobos
30995 Via Saltio
45501 Clubhouse Drive
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The above-mentioned individuals were opposed to the project for the following reasons:
Opposed to the proposed densities, specifically with respect to the Courtyard
Housing option.
Recommended limiting the density to a maximum of 1500 homes.
Queried the Councilman's recent argument with the County's plan to implement the
Morgan Hills project if this particular project with a higher density was being
considered for approval within the City limits.
Noted concern with respect to the cumulative impacts of this project not being
addressed.
Relayed concern regarding traffic impacts generated from this project without a plan
for alternate transportation plans.
Noted the lack of Open Space between the Redhawk area and this project for trails.
Advised that this project was not consistent with the Growth Management Action
Plan.
Applauded the developer for the reduction in densities.
Referenced an article in the Californian newspaper from September 10, 1999,
reading the following: Mr. Deputy City Manager Thomhill says a lot of things that are
going to impact us we don~t have a lot of control over, adding that City staff members
will have to talk with County officials to study the effects of projects outside City
limits,; and advised that the City did have control over this particular project.
For Mr. Barrera, Commissioner Webster clarified that with respect to the Councilman's
comments referenced, that his comments had been relayed as a private citizen, and not
as a representative of the City.
In response to Ms. Miod, Commissioner Webster relayed that the trail referenced was
located on the Redhawk side of the property line.
The following individuals were proponents of the project:
Mr. Jason Parks
Mr. John Stanlil
Mr. Wayne Hall
32828 Caseda Drive
45299 Paseo Durango
42131Agena Street
The above-mentioned individuals were proponents of the project for the following
reasons:
Relayed that the City of Temecula needs more space for children to be able to play
sports, noting the benefits of the sports park.
Noted that the traffic would be reduced with the sports park proposal due to families
traveling a shorter distance for sporting activities.
Complimented the City of Temecula for its exemplary park system.
Noted that the proposed Fire Station would be a great asset to this portion of the
city.
Applauded the developer for his agreement to work with the Pechangas regarding
the monitoring issues.
Noted opposition to any alcohol being sold in the permitted uses in the Commercial
area.
Relayed a desire for Pala Road to be constructed as six lanes.
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Mr. Joseph R. Terrazas, 31160 Lahontian Street, relayed his concern with respect to the
inadequate EIR and Traffic analysis; queried the ability to sell bonds for the necessary
road improvement projects; noted concern with respect to the additional traffic generated
due to the sports park proposal; recommended that Pala Road be constructed as six
lanes to Wolf Valley Road; and noted that he was pleased with the applicant's comments
regarding the sound wall issue.
Mr. Peter Lucier, 31257 Hiawatha Court, representing the Wolf Valley HOA, thanked the
Commission, staff, and the developer, for their diligent efforts with respect to this project;
relayed concern with respect to the potential sale of liquor at any of the uses in Planning
Area Nos. 12, and 13; noted the need to widen Pala Road to six lanes to Wolf Valley
Road; relayed that although the sound attenuation had been addressed in the Developer
Agreement, that there were no Conditions of Approval addressing this matter; and
relayed concern with respect to the traffic, specifically in conjunction with the casino
project.
Mr. Charles Hankley, 31745 Via Cordoba, applauded the developer for the project plan,
relayed his concern with respect to the traffic impacts associated with this project, noting
the heavy traffic flows existing on Loma Linda Road, and Via Cordoba, relaying the
additional traffic that the school would generate; and advised that the streets in this area
could not afford to be impacted negatively with respect to additional traffic.
For Mr. Lucier, Director of Planning Ubnoske relayed that the referenced permitted uses
of the Commercial area were excluded uses, clarifying that on page 15 (of the agenda
material) that this was a list of prohibited uses.
For Mr. Hankley, Commissioner Webster concurred that cut-through traffic on Via
Cordoba and Lorna Linda Road was a significant problem, noting that the proposed
improvements to Highway 79 South, the Pala Bridge, as well as the improvements to
Pala Road and Wolf Valley Road would direct traffic away from Loma Linda Road; and
advised that the City had no control over the location of the school sites. In response,
Mr. Hankley noted the need for additional Police enforcement in the Via Cordoba area.
At this time Chairman Guerriero closed the public comment portion of the meeting.
The applicant's representatives provided the following rebuttal comments in response to
the Commission and community comments:
Mr. Camille Bahri, representing the applicant, clarified the intent to have differentiated
permitted uses in the two commercial areas (Planning Area Nos. 12, and 13.)
Mr. William Griffith, representing the applicant, relayed the following:
In response to previously made comments, specified the differences between the
Wolf Creek Development and the Morgan Hill Development (which is in the
County), noting that the Morgan Hill Project was currently zoned for one unit per ten
acres, under the Regional County Plan, which would enable the Morgan Hill
Developer to develop 45 units, with a total of 1300 units, relaying that by
comparison, the target density under the General Plan for the Wolf Creek Project
would be for 2601 units, clarifying that the presented proposal was for
approximately 1900 units, or with the senior housing option, just over 2000 units;
relayed that the Wolf Creek property was currently zoned for a combination of Low,
Low Medium, Medium, and High densities, noting the applicant's determination to
comply with the Growth Management Plan, proposing the lower end of the density
range while still providing a broad spectrum of amenities (i.e., school site, fire
station, civic centers); advised that the Morgan Hills Project would not be inclusive
of an commensurate measure of amenities;
With respect to traffic, noted staff's review and support of the traffic analysis;
relayed that the road system in this portion of the City was designed based on the
General Plan's target density of over 2600 units, advising that due to this particular
project's proposal to develop substantially below that density that there was the
creation of a potential excess capacity;
Relayed that this property was not environmentally sensitive;
Advised that in his opinion this particular project plan meets the guidelines of the
City (per the General Plan documents, the GMP, and meeting all of the criteria with
respect to issues that staff has raised regarding the project over the past three
years);
Noted the applicant's previous involvement in the development of numerous award-
winning Master Planned communities;
Provided additional information regarding the circulation plan;
In response to Mr. Broderick's, comments, reiterated that the project was being
developed within the policies of the General Plan, and the GMP; in response to Mr.
Lucier's concerns, relayed that the applicant has held numerous meetings with Mr.
Lucier, noting that it was the applicant's desire to work in cooperation with both the
City and the neighborhood with respect to defining solutions to the noise on Pala
Road, the widening of Pala Road, and the associated congestion relief;
Advised that the assiduous efforts of the applicant, the staff, and the revisions
incorporated in response to Commission comments have culminated into this
proposed project plan;
Thanked the Commission for its consideration of this matter, relaying hopes of
support for this particular proposal.
At 8:45 P.M. the meeting recessed, reconvening at 8:54 P.M.
The Commission relayed the following closing remarks:
Commissioner Mathewson noted the following:
Relayed appreciation to the applicant for addressing the Commission's concerns
since this project was last visited;
For the record, noted that he had participated in ex-parte communications, meeting
with the applicant and staff on December 4th in order to discuss the proposed
modifications to the project plan;
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Advised that his primary concerns had been addressed with the proposed revisions
to the project.
With respect to the density issues, relayed that he was a strong advocate of
following the GMP and the General Plan, noting that in comparison to what the
minimum density designation allowed (per the General Plan), that this particular
project proposed a seven percent (7%) increase from the minimum density, noting
that if the senior multi-family element was implemented, the project would propose
a thirteen percent (13%) increase in density above the absolute minimum density
allowed; advised that he could support the proposed densities in conjunction with
the numerous amenities proposed (i.e., a 40-acre park, land dedication for the fire
station, the linear parkway), relaying that the proposed amenities would not solely
benefit the project itself, but the community, as a whole; relayed that the sole multi-
family area would be limited to senior housing, noting that the senior housing and
the courtyard homes would have a significantly less negative impact with respect to
school enrollment in this area;
With respect to lot sizes, clarified that the discussions pertaining to the smaller lots
were regarding the minimum lot size and not the average lot sizes, noting that in
the first two areas to be developed the average lot size would be dramatically
higher than the minimum;
With respect to the Village Center proposal, relayed that with the siting of the
courtyard housing around this center, this planning element aided in achieving the
ultimate purpose of a Village Center, as identified in the General Plan; advised that
the permitted uses that have been identified for the commercial areas were
adequate, noting that he could support Commissioner Webster's recommendation
for adding a tavern, or bar use in the Neighborhood Commercial area, noting that
with respect to the community concern expressed regarding excessive alcohol
consumption, that in his opinion this issue was an enforcement matter, advising
that to attract residents to the pedestrian center in the evening hours a tavern, or
bar use would be appropriate;
With respect to the architectural guidelines for the residences, and the issue of a
mix of one-story, and two-story dwellings, relayed that after additional investigation
of the voluminous Design Guidelines which were inclusive of language encouraging
one-story homes, that it was his opinion that the Specific Plan was not the
document best-suited for regulating these specific elements; recommended that if
this project goes forward and is approved, that all product reviews come back to the
Planning Commission for review and approval; with respect to Deputy City
Manager Thornhill's previous comments regarding the option to hire an architect
consultant for aid in the project review, recommended that this option be utilized;
noted that these provisions would address garage setback issues and alternate
architectural treatments that have been previously sited as concerns by the
Commission;
With respect to the proposed traffic improvements, advised that the data presented
earlier in the meeting by staff addressed this issue, ensuring that this matter would
be addressed adequately; noted that the Development Agreement (if it goes
forward, as proposed) provided him with a great level of confidence that the traffic
issues would be properly addressed (inclusive of the sound wall); in response to a
community resident's comments regarding concern with respect to funding issues
and the potential for the interim traffic improvements to not be completed, for
Commissioner Mathewson, Deputy Director of Public Works Parks provided
additional information. Commissioner Mathewson relayed that the funding would
ultimately be available due to the applicant's willingness to loan funds upfront for
these improvements; in response to Commissioner Mathewson's request for
confirmation of this agreement, the applicant's representative nodded affirmatively;
and
With respect to the previously expressed desire of the Commission to implement
smaller streets and sidewalk setbacks, advised that he strongly recommended that
these elements be incorporated into the project plan.
Commissioner Telesio noted the following:
Commended the applicant for continuing to work with staff and the Commission in
order to meet the goals of the Commission, the General Plan, and the GMP;
Noted that in his opinion, the applicant has met the standards relayed by the
Commission with the recent revisions to the project plan;
Relayed that he was comfortable forwarding this project to the City Council with a
recommendation for approval;
With respect to the community resident's expressed comments, noted that the
majority of these concems were based on misinformation, relaying hopes of the
Commission or staff providing clarification to the community;
Regarding the proposed courtyard homes, and the multi-family senior housing,
noted the need for diversity with respect to the provision of housing products;
Concurred with Commissioner Mathewson's recommendation with respect to the
product reviews being brought forward to the Planning Commission;
With respect to traffic issues, relayed that this matter had been adequately
addressed;
Regarding the concern with respect to allowing a bar or tavern use in the
commercial area, relayed that he concurred with Commissioner Mathewson that
the excessive use of alcohol was an enforcement issue, noting that in his opinion
these uses should be permitted under a Conditional Use Permit (CUP); and
Relayed that in his opinion, the applicant has done an excellent job planning a
project appropriate for this area, noting that the proposal was well under the
densities allowed for this area (per the General Plan).
Commissioner Webster noted the following:
For the record, relayed that he had not met with staff or the applicant to discuss the
project plan since the Planning Commission's workshop, which was held on
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October 18, 2000, noting that the sole staff member he had discussed this issue
with was the City Attorney.
Noted his extreme disappointment with staff due to the exclusion of the Planning
Commissioners in the Subcommittee that worked on this project.
Advised that in order for this project to receive his support for conformance with the
City's General plan, General Plan EIR, the Development Code, the Design
Guidelines, and the GMP, that the project would need to incorporate the following
elements:
· With respect to Condition No. 6a, and 6b (regarding the mitigation measures
within the Specific Plan conditions), recommended that the language if
feasible be deleted from the conditions due to violating the intent of the CEQA
Act, noting that either this language could be deleted, or there would need to
be provisions for a performance standard, recommending the deletion of this
language;
· With respect to Condition No. 17 (regarding the feasibility of a reclaimed water
system within the Specific Plan conditions), recommended that there be
assurance that this condition was in accordance with Senate Bill 2095;
· With respect to traffic impacts and accumulative impacts, relayed that in order to
agree with the analysis, that there should be assurance that the Deal Point
Item (per the Development Agreement) stating that no additional occupancy is
allowed when traffic reaches levels less than a Level of Service (LOS) D, for 1-
15 Interchanges, as well as Highway 79 South (between the freeway and Pala
Road), recommending that this requirement should be placed on all phases of
the project; advised that if the project's EIR analysis, and the City's traffic
analysis is correct, this is a mute point, while noting that in order to alleviate
the concerns and issues expressed with respect to traffic impacts and
cumulative impacts, it was his opinion this Deal Point should be included.
· Noted that this project should have a complete Mitigation Monitoring Program
inclusive of the applicable portions of the General Plan EIR;
· With respect to the Specific Plan, regarding the street options referenced in
Condition Nos. 12, 12a, 31 and 75, recommended that there should be one
option for this element (rather than the two street options indicated),
recommending that the one option be for narrower streets, specifically with a
thirty-six foot (36') road right-of way which would provide for two eighteen foot
(18') lanes, a four foot (4') sidewalk, and a six foot (6') parkway (with the
sidewalk separated from the curb);
With respect to the CFD Deal Point (within the Development Agreement),
regarding the Pala Road improvements, concurred with the inclusion of the
requirement to widen Pala Road to six lanes to Wolf Valley Road, noting the
applicant's requirement to provide the dedication of the right-of-way, and not
to pay for all the improvements.
Concurred that an architect consultant should be hired by the City to review the
PDO, noting that an independent review would be beneficial.
· With respect to the Land Use Plan map, regarding Planning Area No. 24 (the
proposed regional park area), recommended that if the park plan did not go
forward, the option to construct 5500 square foot lots should be revised to
require 7200 square foot lots; with respect to Planning Area No. 23,
recommended that this be revised to require a 6,000 square foot lot minimum
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to provide a better transition between the Village Center core to less dense
residential; with respect to Planning Area No. 21, recommended revising this
to require 7200 square foot lot minimums, noting the lack of 7200 square foot
lots which should be implemented to create consistency with the Development
Code.
· Noted that he was pleased with the applicant's previous expressed response
regarding the agreement to include a church site designation for a specified
period of time, recommending that staff and the applicant work together to
establish an appropriate period of time for this designation.
· Recommended that there be no allowance for zero lot line houses for the single-
family residential area.
· With respect to the Zoning Ordinance, regarding the 5,000 square foot lots which
stated the request to use the Zoning Ordinance of Medium Density
Residential, noting that the City's Development Code for Low Medium Density
is basically 5, 000 square foot lots and above, recommended that this be kept
at the Low Medium Density zoning in order to be consistent with the
Development Code.
· With respect to the minimum sideyard requirements, within the Residential
Development Standards, relayed that for the 5,000 square foot lots, it was his
recommendation that this standard be revised to be consistent with the City's
Low Medium requirement which is a five foot (5') minimum sideyard, with a
fifteen foot (15') minimum for the sum of the two sideyards;
· With respect to lot coverage, regarding the 6,000 and 7200 square foot lots,
recommended that there be a maximum thirty-five percent (35%) lot coverage
for the lots with two-story dwellings, and forty-five percent (45%) maximum for
the lots with one-story dwellings; regarding the 5,000 square foot lots,
recommended that there be a maximum lot coverage of forty percent (40%)
for the lots with two story dwellings, and forty-five percent (45%) for the lots
with one-story dwellings;
· With respect to architectural forward requirements that the Commission
addressed in the past, recommended that on the exhibits denoting the garage
options, that the split garage option be deleted which does not comply with an
architectural forward element, noting that with this configuration the front door
was tucked inside the house; and
· With respect to the Design Standards, regarding the option for multi-family senior
housing in Planning Area No. '18, recommended that if this option is
implemented that garages be a requirement for this development, in lieu of
carports.
Chairman Guerriero noted the following:
Thanked all the citizens who came forward during the past months to address the
Wolf Valley Project, noting that their comments were appreciated by the
Commission, and specifically by him;
Thanked the applicant for taking the time to meet with the community residents;
and
Advised that all of his concerns have been addressed by staff, the applicant, and
the citizens that have relayed their comments, noting that in his opinion this was a
good project, and his recommendation would be to pass it on to the City Council,
recommending approval.
Commissioner Telesio requested the applicant to address the recommendations
setforth by Commissioner Webster.
Addressing Commissioner Webster's previously mentioned recommendations (See
pages 17-19 of the minutes.), Mr. Griffith, representing the applicant, relayed the
following:
With respect to the street option recommendation, and the church designation
issues, relayed that the applicant had agreed to incorporation of these elements.
Relayed that at this stage of the process, he would be reluctant to revise the Land
Uses, noting that these elements have been carefully planned, advising that the
4,000-4500 square foot lots had been eliminated due to Commission concern;
reiterated that the lot sizes denoted were minimums, noting that in the 8,000 square
foot lot area, that the average lot size would be approximately 8,000 square feet.
In response, Commissioner Mathewson noted that his concern was regarding
Planning Area No. 24 (the potential sports park site).
For Commissioner Mathewson, Mr. Griffith relayed that he was convinced that the
City would go forward with the proposed sports park, noting that to accommodate
the Commission's concern he would agree that for an alternative (if the sports park
plan did not go forward) that Planning Area No. 24 could be revised to maintain a
minimum lot size of 7200 square feet, reiterating that it was not his desire to revise
Planning Area Nos. 21, and 23, providing additional information regarding the
rationale for his reluctance.
With respect to the church site designation, reiterated that the applicant would work
with staff for an appropriate period of time for this designation.
With respect to the Design Standards, specifically, regarding the recommendation
for sideyard requirements, noted that he would be reluctant to agree to this
element, relaying that the Design Standards are consistent from product category
to product category.
With respect to maximum lot coverage requirements, noted that it was the
applicant's opinion that the critical variables are the setbacks which are internally
consistent, relaying that he would not desire to agree to a lot coverage reduction
without a clear understanding of the impact this element would have on other
variables.
With respect to the recommendation for narrower streets, relayed that the courtyard
area would be a great opportunity for this element since the streets could be
reduced further, noting that with respect to the neighborhood streets, the applicant
would support the thirty-six foot (36') section that Commissioner Webster
recommended.
Advised that it was his opinion that this project package was well-defined, noting
the new and modified criteria, recommending that the project go forward with the
recommendations he has relayed.
MOTION: (Ultimately the following motion died for lack of a second.) Commissioner
Webster moved to dose the public hearing; and to approve staffs recommendation,
adopting PC Resolution Nos. 2000-037, -038, -039, and -040 with the following
modifications:
Add-
That the three added Community Services conditions be added to the
Conditions of Approval (as per supplemental agenda material via a
memorandum from the Community Services Department).
That all of his previously mentioned recommendations (see pages 17-19 of
the minutes) be incorporated into the project plan.
That Commissioner Mathewson's recommendation for the product review to
be conducted at the Planning Commission level be implemented.
It was noted that this motion was not seconded and therefore died.
In response to Commissioner Mathewson's queries, Commissioner Webster relayed
his desire to include the Land Use revisions for Planning Area Nos. 21, 23, and 24 in the
motion for approval, providing additional information regarding the rationale for his
recommendation.
Commissioner Telesio reiterated that the minimum lot sizes would not be the average
lot sizes, noting that Commissioner Webster's Land Use recommendation may restrict
the variability in the housing products, and may additionally discourage the development
of one-story homes.
Commissioner Webster was not in agreement that his recommended Land Use
revisions would have an impact on the development of one-story homes.
With respect to the one-story verses two-story dwelling units issues, Commissioner
Mathewson noted that he, too, was of the opinion that the recommended lot coverage
requirements would negatively impact the potential for one-story homes, although he
shared Commissioner Webster's concerns, it was his desire to provide the flexibility in
order to encourage the development of one-story dwellings, relaying that in his opinion
the additional lot coverage issue could be addressed in the Design Guidelines.
Commissioner Webster reiterated that the Development Code standard was basically
a thirty-five percent (35%) maximum lot coverage, noting that he was opposed to some
of the existing development in the City where there were houses filling the entire lot,
located proximate to the neighboring houses (i.e., the Temeku Hills Development),
relaying that in these developments the residents were unable to park their vehicles in
their own driveway due to the housing unit filling the lot; and advised that his
recommendation was to ensure that the general policy goal for design excellence on all
developments be implemented, while still providing flexibility.
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Commissioner Telesio advised that by limiting the lot coverage, this standard would be
encouraging the development of two-story homes.
MOTION: (Ultimately the following motion was amended.) Commissioner Telesio
moved to close the public hearing; and to approve staff's recommendation, adopting PC
Resolution Nos. 2000-037, -038, -039, and -040 with the following modifications:
Add-
That the three added Community Services conditions are added to the
Conditions of Approval (as per supplemental agenda material via a
memorandum from the Community Services Department).
That all of Commissioner Webster's previously mentioned
recommendations (see pages 17-19 of the minutes) be incorporated into the
project plan with the exception of the revisions to Planning Area Nos. 21,
and 23.
That Commissioner Mathewson's recommendation for the product review to
be conducted at the Planning Commission level be implemented.
Commissioner Webster seconded the motion.
In response to Mr. Griffith's queries, Commissioner Telesio confirmed that the motion
on the table was inclusive of the recommended revision in lot sizes in Planning Area No.
24 (to a minimum lot size of 7200 square feet) if the proposed sports park did not go
forward, noting that Planning Area Nos. 21, and 23 would not be revised, additionally,
noting that the lot coverage and the setbacks would not be revised.
Commissioner Mathewson queried what the Commission's action should be with
respect to the Development Agreement, which had not been finalized at this point in
time.
Commissioner Telesio relayed that the Development Agreement was still in the draft
mode.
Commissioner Mathewson noted that there were certain issues addressed in the Deal
Points of the Development Agreement that he had strong opinions about, querying what
action was expected by the Planning Commission with respect to this document.
Commissioner Webster relayed that it was his opinion that the Planning Commission
recommendation to the City Council should not be inclusive of the Development
Agreement since the Planning Commission was not involved in the process, and due to
the Development Agreement going before the City Council at a future point in time.
Attorney Curley relayed that it was recommended that the Planning Commission provide
comments in response to the Deal Points of the Development Agreement (as per the
supplemental agenda material) in order to provide Planning Commission input to the City
Council.
For Commissioner Mathewson, Attorney Cudey relayed that the Development
Agreement would be a consensual document, noting that if the document was agreed to,
it would become a legal document; and advised that proposing the Deal Points as
Conditions of Approval would be problematic.
Commissioner Mathewson noted that he would support the Development Agreement
as proposed to the Planning Commission, strongly encouraging that the habitat fee be
included in the Deal Points, providing additional information regarding previou~
comments the Commission presented regarding the Deal Points.
With respect to the Development Agreement, Chairman Guerriero noted that the
applicant had expressed several concerns, as follows: 1) the applicant was not in favor
of accelerating on Deer Hollow, and 2) with respect to the CFD, the applicant had
expressed concerns.
Commissioner Webster relayed that during the ensuing process, these points of
disagreement would be worked out.
Commissioner Telesio requested confirmation that the Planning Commission was not
supporting all of the Deal Points in the Development Agreement.
Chairman Guerriero, echoed by Commissioner Telesio, relayed that this document
should be excluded in the Planning Commission recommendation due to the existing
contention on certain points, and since it was still a work in process.
Director of Planning Ubnoske relayed that the Planning Commission to the City Council
should relay a recommendation regarding the Development Agreement.
Attorney Curley relayed that the numerous motions have become convoluted, advising
that when there is a consensus to move forward with a motion, that the Planning
Commission should provide clarification so that all parties had a clear idea of the
Planning Commission's recommendation to the City Council, noting that it would be
recommended that Commissioner Webster's recommendations be articulated in the final
motion.
Mr. Samuel Alhadeff, attorney for the applicant, specified his understanding of the
motion.
Attorney Curley relayed that as the Planning Commission discussed the motion it was
clear that the specificities included in the motion needed to be clarified prior to the vote
being taken.
Commissioner Webster relayed that the motion was inclusive of all of his previous
recommendations with the exception of revising the lot sizes for Planning Area Nos. 21,
and 23.
Commissioner Telesio relayed that the setback standards and lot coverage
requirements were also excluded.
Commissioner Webster noted that the setback standards and lot coverage
requirements were not excluded from the motion, clarifying the motion that he had
seconded.
For clarification, Attorney Curley provided the following elements included in the motion
that he had noted, requesting that the Commission add additional input if there were
alternate conditions desired to have included in the recommendation to the City Council,
listing the elements, as follows:
That staff's recommendation be approved with the attached modifications.
With respect to Condition No. 6a, and 6b, to delete the phrase iffeasib/e.
With respect to Condition No. 17, to review conformance to S.B. 2095.
With respect to the traffic and cumulative impacts, to ensure that the Deal
Point in the Development Agreement was followed through regarding the
maintaining of the Level of Service "D.'
The Mitigation Monitoring Program would be augmented.
With respect to the street option concerns, requested specificity regarding
these particular associated recommendations.
In response, Deputy Director of Public Works Parks relayed that the
recommendation was to not have options, but to implement a thirty-six foot
(36')standard.
To incorporate the Land Use Map revisions to Planning Area No. 24; and
That the three added conditions from TCSD be added (per supplemental
agenda material).
Commissioner Webster relayed that the following recommendations were also
included in the motion:
The recommendation that the split garage option would be removed from
the Design Guidelines,
The recommendation to incorporate garages, in lieu of carports, for the
multi-family senior housing.
The recommendation for the City to hire an architect for the review of the
PDO, and
The recommendation for the Product Review to be presented to the
Planning Commission for review and approval.
In response to Attorney Curley, Commissioner Webster confirmed that all of the above
elements were included in the motion.
Commissioner Webster relayed that the lot coverage requirements were also included
in the motion.
In response, Commissioner Telesio noted that this recommendation had been
excluded.
Commissioner Webster advised that the sole exclusions were regarding Planning Area
Nos. 21, and 23; advised that if Commissioner Telesio desired to modify the motion in
order to exclude the residential Design Standards, the motion could be amended.
For Commissioner Telesio, Commissioner Webster noted that there was a differential
between the recommendation of minimum lot sizes for planning areas, and the
recommendations for revisions to residential development standards for planning areas,
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clarifying that these were two separate recommendations, noting that if it was the desire
to exclude these two recommendations, this exclusion would need to be denoted.
The following discussion ensued regarding the Planning Commission recommendation
to the City Council regardinq the Deal Points of the Development Aqreements:
Cbmmissioner Mathewson noted that the Planning Commission recommendation had
become convoluted, relaying that there appeared to be a consensus to approving the
project plan with certain modifications; advised that he was concerned with respect to
the recommendation regarding the Development Agreement; and queried the
Commission for its desire with respect to recommending the Development Agreement in
its conceptual form.
Commissioner Telesio relayed that the Planning Commission was provided the Deal
Points of the Development Agreement, and subsequently the Subcommittee's
comments, noting that these comments had not been incorporated into the document.
Commissioner Mathewson relayed that it was his opinion that it was expected that the
Planning Commission would provide a recommendation regarding the Development
Agreement in its conceptual form, noting that the Subcommittee comments were fairly
straight forward, and that he was comfortable recommending approval with the attached
comments.
For clarification, Director of Planning Ubnoske relayed that the Planning Commission
had received the Deal Points of the Development Agreement in the agenda material,
noting that the supplemental agenda material was inclusive of the same Deal Points with
the Subcommittee's recommendations.
Chairman Guerriero relayed that if the Planning Commission was to approve the
conceptual form of the document, he could support that action, as long as the points
could be rebutted with the City Council, noting that the developer was in disagreement
with various Deal Points, advising that he was in agreement with the developer.
Director of Planning Ubnoske relayed that the developer would have an opportunity to
relay his points of disagreement with the City Council.
Commissioner Mathewson noted various Deal Points that the Planning Commission had
commented on.
For clarification, Attorney Curley relayed that the Deal Points of the Development
Agreement were the core elements that would be placed in the final Development
Agreement which would be a voluminous document, noting that the presented points
were the planning elements that the Planning Commission needed to provide input on
for the City Council's consideration; clarified that these points were more than mere
concepts, noting that these points were the core elements that would be incorporated
into the legal document; noted that the Planning Commission did not need to redraft the
document, but to relay to the Council comments, clarifying that specific points could be
recommended for removal.
Commissioner Telesio relayed that he was not in agreement with the Subcommittee's
comment regarding the multi-species issue, noting that he could support approval
without this element, relaying that it was his desire for the applicant to have the
opportunity to address this issue without the approval of the Planning Commission.
Chairman Guerriero noted the applicant's disagreement with respect to permitted uses in
Planning Area No. 12, relaying that he agreed with the developer.
Commissioner Mathewson noted that with respect to the habitat issues, he was of the
opinion that the plan should go forward.
In response, Commissioner Telesio relayed that the applicant should have an
opportunity to address the habitat issue without the weight of the approval of the
Planning Commission.
For clarification, Attorney Curley relayed that the Planning Commission could specify the
points that were not suppoded, listing the elements of disagreement while approving the
document in its entirety, in concept.
Commissioner Mathewson relayed that there were differences of opinion within the
Planning Commission.
Mr. Alhadeff relayed that it was his opinion that the Development Agreement could be
approved by the Planning Commission in concept and principle, relaying that the points
of disagreement could be specified.
Attorney Curley relayed that the Planning Commission has mentioned the following Deal
Points as items of concern: the level of service, the habitat issue, and Planning Area No.
12; advised that if the previous three points were the sole elements to be addressed that
the Planning Commission could provide input regarding these specific elements,
subsequently approving the remainder of the document.
The Planning Commission relayed the following specified recommendations
regarding the following listed elements of the Development Agreement,
recommending approval regarding the remainder of the document:
With respect to including habitat issue in the Development Agreement, it was noted
that Commissioner Telesio and Commissioner Mathewson were proponents of having
this element included, while Commissioner Webster and Chairman Guerriero were
opposed to the inclusion of this element.
With respect to the area in Planning Area No. 12, the developer provided additional
information, noting that this issue could be worked out and that the Planning
Commission need not address this matter.
With respect to the recommendation regarding the requirement that the LOS not go
below LOS "D" during any phase of the project it was the consensus of the Planning
Commission that this element should be included. (It was noted that Commissioner
Chiniaeff was absent.)
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At this time the Planning Commission resumed to the previous discussions, addressing
the motion for approval for the proiect, as follows:
With respect to the motion, Commissioner Mathewson relayed that he could not support
modifying the lot size coverage.
AMENDED MOTION: (Ultimately the following motion died for lack of an amended
second.) Commissioner Telesio moved to close the public hearing; and to approve
staffs recommendation subject to the modifications clarified by Attorney Curley and
subsequently by Commissioner Webster (see page 25 of the minutes in the bulleted
comments of Attorney Curley and Commissioner Webster), noting that Commissioner
Webster's recommendation regarding lot coverage standards would not be included.
For Commissioner Webster, Commissioner Mathewson relayed that he could not
support Commissioner Webster's proposed modification to the maximum lot coverage,
or the sideyard setback requirements.
For Commissioner Mathewson, Director of Planning Ubnoske provided additional
information regarding the setback standards implemented in the Temeku Hills
Development, which had been referenced at an earlier point in the meeting.
Commissioner Telesio relayed that with Commissioner Webster's recommended
sideyard setbacks the houses would be smaller and stacked.
Commissioner Webster noted that he would not amend his second on the motion to
include these exclusions.
FINAL MOTION: (Ultimately this motion passed; see page 28)Commissioner Telesio
moved to close the public hearing; to recommend approval of the presented
Development Agreement with the exception of the specified comments relayed with
regard to three of the Deal Points (denoted on page 25 of the minutes); and to approve
staffs' recommendation, adopting PC Resolution Nos. 2000-037, -038, -039, and -040,
subject to the following modifications:
Add-
That the three Community Service conditions (as per supplemental agenda
material) be added into the Conditions of Approval.
With respect to Condition No. 6a, and 6b (regarding the mitigation
measures within the Specific Plan conditions) that the language if feasible
be deleted.
With respect to Condition No. 17 ( regarding the feasibility of a reclaimed
water system within the Specific Plan conditions) that there be assurance
that this condition was in accordance with S.B. 2095.
That the Mitigation Monitoring Program be augmented to include the
applicable portions of the General Plan EIR.
With respect to the references in Condition Nos. 12, 12a, 31, and 75, that
there be one option for narrower streets, specifically with a thirty-six foot
(36') road right-of-way, with a parkway separating the sidewalk from the
curb.
That the City hire an architect consultant to review the PDO.
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That Planning Area No. 24 (the proposed regional park area) be revised to
maintain a minimum lot size of 7200 square foot lots (if the proposed park
plan does not go forward).
That there be a church site designation in Planning Area 12 for a specified
period of time (to be determined by staff and the applicant).
That a tavern orbar use be added to the list of permitted uses in the
commercial area (via a Conditional Use Permit).
With respect to the garage options denoted in the exhibits, that the split
garage option be deleted from the Design Guidelines.
With respect to the Design Standards, regarding the option of multi-family
senior housing in Planning Area No. 18, that garages be a requirement, in
lieu of carpods.
That the product review be forwarded to the Planning Commission for
review and approval.
Chairman Guerriero seconded the motion and voice vote reflected approval with the
exception of Commissioner Webster who voted no, and Commissioner Chiniaeff who
was absent.
PLANNING DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Director of Planning Ubnoske queried whether the Planning Commission would
support an additional workshop meeting on January 31, 2001, noting that dinner
would be provided.
In response, it was the general consensus of the Planning Commission to
schedule an additional meeting on January 31, 2001.
With respect to queries the Planning Commissioners have with respect to any
projects, Director of Planning Ubnoske recommended that there be call to staff in
advance of the meeting, relaying that concerns could be addressed without
utilizing the audience time.
With respect to the Joint Planning Commission/City Council Subcommittee
meeting that was discussed, Director of Planning Ubnoske apologized that this
meeting was never scheduled, relaying that it was an oversight on staff's part,
noting that it was unfortunate that no individual called to remind her of the desire
to hold this meeting, advising that the Planning Commissioners should feel free
to call her regarding any issues of concern.
COMMISSIONER REPORTS
For Chairman Guerriero, Director of Planning Ubnoske relayed that the upcoming
workshop with the City Council was scheduled in order to address the Roripaugh
Project, providing additional information.
In response to Commissioner Webster, Director of Planning Ubnoske relayed
that there was a full agenda for the December 20, 2000 Planning Commission
meeting.
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C. Commissioner Mathewson commented on the unresolved issues at the Cosco
site with respect to signage and landscaping.
In response, Direc{or of Planning Ubnoske relayed that she would provide an
update at a future point in time.
Chairman Guerriero noted that he had met with City Manager Nelson and Deputy
City Manager Deputy City Manager Thornhill, relaying that he had requested that
a list be compiled regarding the medians that had been targeted for landscaping,
but had not yet been landscaped, requesting additional information regarding this
matter.
ADJOURNMENT
At 10:14 P.M. Chairman Guerriero formally adjourned this meeting to Wednesday,
December 20, 2000 at 6:00 P.M., in the City Council Chambers, 43200 Business Park
Drive, Temecula.
Ron C~ernero,
Chairman
Debbie Ubnoske,
Director of Planning