HomeMy WebLinkAbout012099 PC/PTS Jnt. Workshop Minutes MINUTES OF A JOINT WORKSHOP OF THE
TEMECULA PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC/TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF TEMECULA
JAN UARY 20,1999 ~
CALL TO ORDER
The City of Temecula Planning Commission convened in a joint workshop of the Planning
Commission Public/Traffic Commission at 6:00 P.M., on Wednesday, January 20, 1999, in the
City Council Chambers of Temecula City Hall, 43200 Business Park Drive, Temecula,
California.
ROLL CALL
Planning Commission: Commissioners Guerriero, Naggar, Soltysiak,
Webster, and Chairwoman Slaven.
Public/Traffic Commission: Commissioners Coe, Connerton, Edwards,
Markham*, and Telesio
Absent: None.
Also Present: Deputy City Manager Thomhill,
Deputy Director of Public Works Parks,
Senior Planner Hogan, and
Minute Clerk Hansen.
* (Commissioner Markham arrived at 6:02 P.M.)
PUBLIC COMMENTS
No comments.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
1, Approval of Agenda
MOTION: Commissioner Naggar moved to approve the agenda. The motion was seconded by
Commissioner Webster and voice vote reflected unanimous approval.
2. Approval of Minutes - December 16, 1999
MOTION: Commissioner Naggar moved to approve the minutes. The motion was seconded
by Commissioner Webster and voice vote reflected unanimous approval.
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3. Circulation Element Update
Senior Planner Hogan noted that in addition to the presentation of the Circulation Element
Update, and the Summary of Proposed Circulation Plan Changes, a Priodtization List for
Projects, concentrating primarily on the initial 5-year program for improvements will be
presented for the Commissions' input and, thereafter, those comments forwarded to the City
Council's Workshop on January 21, 1999; advised that the list has been modified per the
Public/Traffic Safety Commission's recommendation; relayed that the Circulation Element
Update process began in the spring of 1998; and noted that Mr. Bob Davis will present the
Update in detail, and will be available for questions, advising that this process will culminate
into the finalization of the Update which will be presented to the Planning Commission in
approximately a month.
A. Presentation of the Pdodtization List for Proiects for Capital Improvement Proqram
1. Proiects for Capital Improvement Pro,qram (5-year)
Mr. Bob Davis presented a detailed report of the Pdodtization List of the Circulation Element
(per supplemental agenda material), focusing primarily on the projects for the Capital
Improvement Program within the 5-year plan, Items 1-34 (of record); noted the rationale for the
improvements; clarified the denotations reflecting projects that are under contract, funded,
partially funded, and the entity which the project falls under (i.e., Temecula, Murrieta, Caltrans);
relayed that the list is not all inclusive (omitting minor intersection improvements, etc.); advised
that the first 10 items are currently under contract or under construction; and noted that
regarding Item No. 34, Rancho Vista Road should be corrected to reflect Tierra Vista Road.
Mr. Davis concurred with Commissioner Guerriero's recommendation that Item No. 17,
regarding the extension and signal at Jefferson Avenue, should be moved up in priodtization
due to its effect on the Overland Crossing.
For Commissioner Webster, with regard to Item No. 17 (aforementioned), Mr. Davis clarified
that this project was inclusive of the engineering plans and the construction; with regard to
Item No. 16, regarding improvements at Jefferson Avenue and Construction of the Date Street
extension, noted that this project will be funded by the City of Murrieta; relayed the rationale for
the location of Item No. 13, the First Street Bridge project; with regard to Item No. 8, the
Rancho California Road off-ramp widening, relayed that the reference reflected solely the off-
ramp project.
For Commissioner Webster, Deputy Director of Public Works Parks clarified that although the
Rancho California Road east side on-ramp, heading northbound, and the widening of Rancho
California Road (having a duo right turn onto the ramp), are currently under design, this project
could be added to the Priodtization List; further clarified the rationale for the location of Item
No. 13, regarding the First Street Bridge.
For Commissioner Guerriero, Mr. Parks noted that the extension of Pujol Street to the Western
Bypass, although developer driven, could be added to Item No. 35, in the Medium-Range
Considerations.
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Commissioner Connerton recommended addressing northbound Ynez Road at Winchester
Road to the northbound 1-15 on-ramp, recommending a double-striped lane for the provision
of two right lanes with the inside lane being straight-through, or, fight only, and the northbound
Ynez Road and westbound Rancho California Road on-ramp in order to adequately alleviate
traffic in this particular area before mall opening; and advised that a time frame be provided to
the City Council regarding this project. Mr. Parks relayed that staff would investigate and bring
an update back to the Commission.
Commissioner Markham suggested directing the discussion at this point in time back to the
elements of the Circulation Update, in order to avoid entering another arena of discussion
which wouldn't envelop the Circulation Element.
Echoing Mr. Markham's suggestion, Deputy Director of Public Works Parks clarified that staff
desired the input of the Commissions regarding recommendation as to the Circulation Element
modification, specifically, the order of the Items on the Pdodtization List.
Per Commission request, Deputy City Manager Thornhill reiterated the desire for Commission
input regarding priodtization of the improvements up to the 5-year range (Items 1-34) in order
to bdng those comments forward to the City Council's workshop, advising that the immediate
issues, in the 6- to 18-month range will be presented as a package and brought to the City
Council and the Public/Traffic Safety Commission for input at a future point in time.
Commissioner Naggar concurred with the Pdodtization List, regarding Items 1-34.
For Commissioner Soltysiak, Mr. Thornhill advised that the pdmary analysis utilized in the
Update was traffic modeling; and noted that cost analysis was considered.
Commissioner Telesio suggested that in addition to prioritization of the Items, the
Commissioners consider the addition of Items not included on the list.
Commissioner Coe, echoed by Chairwoman Slaven, recommended prioritizing Item No. 33,
regarding Santiago Road, in line with Item No. 13, regarding the First Street Bridge.
Due to Chairwoman Slaven's concern with the priodty placement of Item No. 34, regarding
the widening of Ynez Road, due to the imminent opening of the Marie Callender's restaurant,
Mr. Davis suggested dividing the project into smaller segments, prioritizing the widening from
Tierra Vista Road to Rancho Vista Road or Pauba Road to address that impact.
Chairwoman Slaven recommended with regard to Item No. 11, that the Petition process be
expedited.
Commissioner Webster recommended that a brief overview of the medium- to long-range
program be presented prior to the Commissions' recommendation.
2. and 3. Medium- to LonR-Ran,qe Phasin,q Considerations (6 to beyond 10 years)
Mr. Bob Davis briefly presented the Medium- to Long-Range Considerations (6 to 10 years),
Items No. 35-51 (per agenda material).
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For Commissioner Edwards, Mr. Davis clarified that Item No. 38, regarding Murrieta Hot
Spdngs Road, is a Murrieta project. Mr. Davis further cladfied that although Murrieta's projects
are denoted on the Pdodtization List, it is not to be deduced that the projects are being funded
by the City of Temecula.
Commissioner Connerton, echoed by Commissioners Telesio and Slaven, recommended
moving Item No. 46, regarding the Butterfield Stage Road northerly extension from Nicolas
Road to Washington Street, up to coincide with Item No. 11, regarding the Petition reflecting
redesignation of the 1-15 freeway. Mr. Davis recommended moving the engineering phase of
Item No. 46, Item No. 42, forward.
Commissioner Markham recommended not deleting Item No. 40 (listed after Item No. 47)
regarding development of a collector distributor/frontage road system along the 1-15 corridor,
and placing it in the 1- to 5-year range.
For Commissioner Soltysiak, Mr. Davis clarified the rationale for the prioritization placement of
Item No. 50, regarding the widening of De Portola Road.
With regard to Commissioner Markham's querying with regard to the parallel route to
Winchester Road from Murrieta Hot Spdngs Road and over to the split Diamond Interchange,
Mr. Davis advised that although this project is partially developer ddven, it should be added to
the list.
B. Presentation of the Proposed Revisions to the General Plan Circulation Element
(continued, see page 6)
Mr. Bob Davis presented the Revised Circulation Update, briefly highlighting each item (of
record).
1. Section I (Introduction)
For Commissioner Webster, Senior Planner Hogan relayed that after the Circulation update is
revised staff will further investigate provision of a supplement to the EIR (Environmental Impact
Report.)
It was noted on page 6, first paragraph, that the word their should be corrected to indicate
there.
Chairwoman Slaven recommended that with regard to Page 6, at the top of the page, the term
conformity review be clarified.
2. Section II (Summary of Circulation Issues)
For Chairwoman Slaven, Mr. Davis clarified page 9, as follows: the deletion of paragraph 1
and 4 was due to the improved condition in those specific areas; and advised that as to
paragraph 5, regarding alternative modes of transportation, that this provision could be added
back into the material. Ms. Slaven recommended, additionally, not deleting paragraphs 1 and
4.
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For Commissioner Webster, Mr. Davis indicated that page 10, the last paragraph, should be
corrected to reflect complete deletion.
For Commissioner Naggar, regarding page 10, paragraph 2, Mr. Davis noted that with regard
to the future transportation system, the time frame for this particular project is within the 5-year
range, although the TSM (Transportation System Management) program and the TDM
(Transportation Demand Management) program plans should be immediately addressed.
3. Section III (Goals and Policies)
With regard to Goal 1, striving to maintain a Level of Service "D" or better, Chairwoman Slaven
expressed dissatisfaction with the level, advising that this issue should be brought before the
City Council.
Commissioner Guerriero, regarding page 11, Policy 1.2, recommended that the word adequate
be changed to reflect comprehensive; commended staff for their diligent efforts associated
with Policy 1.4, reflecting TSM; recommended that additional language be added to page 12,
Policy 2.1 to include right-of-way violations, advising that the City Council consider adding an
additional 2-4 motor enforcement officers; and suggested with regard to Policy 2.6, regarding
traffic calming, holding a workshop for the consideration of traffic calming devices (i.e., speed
undulations.)
Commissioner Telesio, echoed by Commissioner Edwards, recommended for City Council
consideration with regard to Policy 1.2, evaluation of potential traffic impacts, that the Public
Traffic/Safety Commissioner become more actively involved in this process.
Chairwoman Slaven expressed a desire for more input from the Public Traffic/Safety
Commission on traffic matters.
With regard to Policy 4.3, on page 14, Commissioner Markham noted, for Commissioner
Slaven, that all artedal parking has been eliminated with the exception of Winchester Road
and Margarita Road (adjacent to the school.) Deputy Director of Public Works Parks advised
that with regard to the City not having control over Winchester Road with regard to parking,
due to it being a State highway, that staff is investigating this area of concern.
Mr. Davis clarified Policy 4.9, on page 15, regarding the TDM Plan. Commissioner Edwards
recommended that this area of discussion be an arena in which the Public Traffic/Safety
Commission become more involved.
At 8:02 P.M. a short recess was taken, and the meeting reconvened at 8:12 P.M.
4. Section IV (Circulation Plan)
For Commissioner Webster, Mr. Davis recommended the elimination of the reference curb
parking.
For Commissioner Markham, Mr. Davis noted that the continuity issue between the Cities of
Temecula and Murrieta with regard to standards of saturation levels are currently unresolved.
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C. Presentation of the Summary of Proposed Circulation Plan Chan.qes
Since Section IV of the Circulation Element included revisions, by way of overhead maps, Mr.
Davis presented the Summary of Proposed Circulation Plan Changes (per supplemental
agenda material.)
1. Hi,qhway Component Deletions
With regard to Item No. 2, Commissioner Markham clarified, for Commissioner Webster, the
rationale for the deletion of the Butterfield Stage Road southerly extension.
With regard to Item No. 3, for Commissioner Soltysiak, Mr. Davis noted that the Western
Bypass is a potential use for connection with Cherry Street.
With regard to Chairwoman $1aven's concern with regard to Item No. 4, regarding the Nicolas
Road easterly extension, Deputy Director of Public Works Parks noted that the omission of this
item doesn't mandate the deletion of this extension.
2. Highway Component Classification Up,qrades and Other Modifications
With regard to Item No. 5, Mr. Davis presented the options of modifications to relieve traffic on
Winchester Road, noting the potential involvement with the County, Caltrans, and surrounding
cities; advised the elimination of Option A (of record); and clarified, for Commissioner Webster,
the rationale for the aforementioned project not being placed on the prioritization list, noting,
however, that there is a process of coordinating this project with the Pdority List.
Commissioner Guerriero recommended coordinating the classification upgrades and
modifications to the Circulation Plan with the anticipated population at build-out; and noted,
additionally, that The City may not have the population base to support the current Commercial
Industrial development.
In light of the time constraint, it was the consensus of the Commissions that the remainder of
the Summary of Proposed Circulation Plan Changes be thoroughly reviewed with the provision
of maps by the Commissioners outside the meeting, and then reconvene for discussion and
Commission input at another scheduled joint workshop, Thursday, February 11, 1999.
At this time the meeting went back to the review of the Proposed Revisions to the General
Plan Circulation Element.
B. Presentation of the Proposed Revisions to the General Plan Circulation Element
(continued from page 4)
5. Section V (Implementation Pro,qrams)
For Chairwoman Slaven, Mr. Davis noted that page 34, section A, of Section V, addresses
traffic impact study guides.
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With regard to page 38, Item 1, regarding the City's Development Impact Monitoring Program
Commissioners Naggar and Edwards recommended that additional language be added to
indicate review by the City's staff and the Planning and Public Traffic/Safety Commissions.
For Commissioner Naggar, with regard to traffic impact, Mr. Davis advised that there is a
proposal to have developers at a future point in time provide an additional independent traffic
study.
Mr. Davis concurred with Chairwoman Slaven, regarding the use of the percentage to indicate
traffic impact, recommending in lieu of that, the results of the trip generation counts and the
read capacity usage serve as more effective tools to measure the impact.
Chairwoman Slaven recommended annually updating the Cimulation Element.
For Chairwoman Slaven, Mr. Davis noted the recommendation of defining Level of Service
designations. Senior Planner Hogan recommended, additionally, the provision of graphic
presentation to more accurately review traffic issues.
Deputy Director of Public Works Parks advised that the policy issue on Traffic Circulation could
be presented to both Commissions at a future point in time when the supplemental EIR
(Environmental Impact Report) presentation is presented.
Chairwoman Slaven commended staff on their assiduous endeavor with regard to the
Circulation Update.
PLANNING MANAGER'S REPORT
Senior Planner Hogan thanked the Commissioners for their time and input on the Circulation
Update.
COMMISSIONER REPORTS
A. Commissioner Guerdero commented, as follows:
1. With regard to projects that are transporting dirt, for removal, or for additional
provision on a site, that staff ensure proper traffic control during transportation.
2. With regard to Jefferson Avenue, recommended that a study be done reviewing
the need for the addition of designated right-turn only lanes, primarily between
Winchester Road and Via Montezuma.
3. With regard to the Farmer Boys restaurant site located on Winchester Road
(approved at the August 19, 1998 Planning Commission Meeting),
recommended enforcement of the temporary installation of delineators (which
the project was conditioned by) until the Winchester median project is
completed.
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B. Commissioners Connerton and Telesio relayed that this workshop provided
cohesiveness and constructive discussion, recommending that the Commissions periodically
meet.
ADJOURNMENT
At 9:41 P.M. Chairwoman Slaven formally adjourned this joint workshop to Thursday,
February 11, 1999, at 6:00 P.M., and the next regular Planning Commission meeting will be
on Wednesday~ February 3~ 1999, at 6:00 P.M., in the City Council Chambers, 43200
Business Park Ddve, Temecula.
'Marcia~S~ven, Chairwoman~ D ' U , ' g ger