HomeMy WebLinkAbout070799 PC Minutes MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CiTY OF TEMECULA
PLANNING COMMISSION
JULY 7, 1999
CALL TO ORDER
The City of Temecula Planning Commission convened in a regular meeting at
6:00 P.M., on Wednesday July 7, 1999, in the City Council Chambers of
Temecula City Hall, 43200 Business Park Ddve, Temecula, California.
ALLEGIANCE
The audience was led in the Flag salute by Commissioner Mathewson.
ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners Fahey, Mathewson, Naggar,
Webster, and Chairman Guerriero.
Absent: None.
Also Present: Planning Manager Ubnoske,
Deputy Director of Public Works Parks,
Attorney Cudey,
Senior Planner Fagan,
Project Planner Brown,
Project Planner Thomsley, and
Minute Clerk Hansen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
No comments.
COMMISSION BUSINESS
1. Approval of A,qenda
MOTION: Commissioner Fahey moved to approve the agenda. The motion was
seconded by Commissioner Webster and voice vote reflected unanimous
approval.
2. Appointment of New Chair and Co-Chair
MOTION: Commissioner Webster moved to maintain the status quo of the
positions of the Commission, re-appointing Commissioner Guerdero as Chairman
and Commissioner Naggar as Vice Chair. Commissioner Fahey seconded the
motion, and voice vote reflected unanimous approval.
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3. Approval of Minutes-February 17~ 1999 and June 2~ 1999
MOTION: Commissioner Naggar moved to approve the February 17, 1999
minutes, as written. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Fahey and
voice vote reflected approval with the exception of Commissioner Mathewson who
abstained.
It was noted that page 9, first paragraph, of the June 2, 1999 minutes should
reflect that Commissioner Naggar was referencing the comments relayed at the
March 17, 1999 Planning Commission meeting.
MOTION: Commissioner Naggar moved to approve the June 2, 1999 minutes, as
amended. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Webster and voice vote
reflected approval with the exception of Commissioner Mathewson who abstained.
4. Requested chan,qe to site plan for Planning Application No. PA99-
0079 (Development Plan) - on the Border Restaurant located at the
Promenade mall on the comer of Winchester Road and Ynez Road.
Submitted under separate cover.
Project Planner Thomsley presented the staff report; queried the Commission for
input regarding the proposed mural; specified the dimensions (12 feet by 26 feet);
for Commissioner Webster, relayed that the mural would be raised stucco
bordered by stonework; for Commissioner Mathewson, clarified the location of
out-lot "K"; relayed that due to the 37-foot distance from the street staff was not of
the opinion that the mural would be a traffic distraction; specified the landscape
and sidewalk buffer between the mural and the street; noted that the color of the
wall would be off-white; for Chairman Guerriero, relayed that similar murals have
been utilized on uses in Encinitas, Oceanside, and San Diego; and specified the
materials used on the projects.
For Commissioner Fahey, Planning Manager Ubnoske advised that there is an
existing mural in Old Town at the Temecula Stage Stop; provided additional
information regarding the desire for creativity in the center; and in response to
Commissioner Mathewson's comments, recommended the addition of a Condition
of Approval (COA) requiring the applicant to maintain the mural to the satisfaction
of the City of Temecula.
In concurrence with Commissioner Mathewson, Chairman Guerfiero expressed
concern with respect to the size, relaying that the mural would be a hazard for
westbound traffic; concurring with Commissioner Naggar's comments, queried if
the approval of the mural would set a precedence for additional murals on
alternate uses in the City; and relayed that since he has not seen a mural of this
size on alternate uses in other cities, he would be opposed to the mural, as
proposed.
Commissioner Naggar recommended that the project be conditioned to remove
the mural if at a future point in time the business vacated the premises.
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For Commissioner Fahey, PlanninG Manager Ubnoske clarified that the Sign
Ordinance does not address murals, and that there is no provision for allowance
of this type of mural signage in the Specific Plan.
Commissioner Webster relayed that he supported the mural, as proposed, viewing
the project as art due to the lack of a restaurant or business entity denoted in the
mural; and expressed that he was not of the opinion that the mural would be a
traffic hazard.
While concurring with Commissioner Webster's comments regarding the artistic
value, Commissioner Naggar relayed for informational purposes that the Planning
Commission recently denied the Edwards Cinema signage due to size; and
expressed concem regarding a criteria for consistency and allowable future
signage if this project would be approved.
Commissioner Fahey relayed that the General Plan does address art; queried the
criteria for determination between signage and art; concurred with Commission
Naggar's comments regarding consistency in approval of signage; advised that
the mural in Old Town was an original work, relaying reluctance to classify this
project as art since it would not actually be painted on the wall; and concurred
with the Commissioners' comments regarding concern with respect to setting a
precedence.
Planning Manager Ubnoske recommended continuing the matter in order for staff
to address the concerns of the Commission.
Commissioner Naggar reiterated the general concerns of the Commission as the
size of the mural, and the determining cdteria between art and signage.
It was the general consensus of the Commission to continue the matter to the July
21, 1999 Planning Commission meeting.
5. Requested change to site plan for Planning Application No. PA98-
0206 (Development Plan) - Solid Rock Bookshop located at 26770
Ynez Road. Submitted under separated cover.
Advising that the applicant has requested modifications to the approved planning
application, Project Planner Thomsley presented the staff report (per
supplemental agenda material); and specified the revisions, as follows: 1) removal
of the cross muttons in all the six-by-six foot windows, 2) addition of a wrought
iron fence in order to enclose the patio area, and 3) changing the roof tile color to
gray.
Mr. Lee Stanton, the applicant, provided additional information regarding the
windows, providing sample material of the green-tinted glass; and further clarified
the roof color modification.
Commissioners Webster and Fahey relayed their support of the revisions.
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While relaying general concurrence to the Commissioners' comments,
Commissioner Mathewson relayed his preference to the original window design.
MOTION: Commissioner Naggar moved to approve the revised plan.
Commissioner Webster seconded the motion and voice vote reflected unanimous
approval.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
6. Subdivision Ordinance
Request to revise the Subdivision Ordinance.
RECOMMENDATION
It is recommended by the Planning Department that the Planning
Commission approve a Resolution recommending that the city
Council adopt the Negative Declaration and approve the Ordinance.
Clarifying the rationale for the Commission continuing this Agenda Item three
times, Project Planner Brown presented the staff report (of record); relayed the
revisions recommended by the Public Works Department (per supplemental
agenda material); advised that staff conducted a study regarding the cul-de-sac
standards, providing additional information regarding the survey; noted that the
Building Industry Association (BIA) of San Diego relayed opposition to the 600
foot cul-de-sac length standards; and provided clarification regarding BIA's
concerns.
For the record, Chairman Guerriero relayed that the Commission had receipt of
the letter correspondence from BIA dated July 7, 1999, referenced by Project
Planner Brown.
Project Planner Brown addressed the cuncems of the Commissioners, as follows:
For Commissioner Naggar:
· ~ Relayed the procedure of noticing the meeting with respect to this Agenda
Item, noting that the item was not re-noticed for each continuance.
· ~ Provided clarification regarding staff's rationale for not incorporating the
denoted concerns of the BIA into the revised Ordinance.
Relayed concurrence with the recommendation to revisit the Ordinance in
approximately one year for further review.
For Commissioner Webster:
· ~ Regarding the recommendation that provision for flexibility with respect to
the 600-foot cul-de-sac length be permitted per zoning district, in lieu of
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flexibility being granted per lot size, advised that staff would need to further
investigate the matter.
· ~ Clarified that the aforamentionad standard would also be applicable to
commercial and industrial areas.
· ~ Provided additional information regarding lot size and arrangement (denoted
on page 9, Section B3 of the Ordinance), relaying that additional language
could be added to ensure flexibility.
Provided additional clarification regarding the term expre~vays (denoted on
page 10, Section E.)
/ Advised that the intent of the Ordinance, specifically regarding page 52,
Section A with respect to Traditional Neighborhood Development, was for to
provide technical general guideiines, relaying that the Design Guidelines
would provide additional specificity.
· ~ Additionally relayed that flexibility regarding the specificity of the size of
required parkland would be further addressed in the Design Guidelines.
For Commissioner Mathewson:
· ~ Confirmed that the majodty of the referenced existing $9 cul-de sacs would
not be in conformance to the revised shortened 600-foot length standards,
while the majority of existing cul-de-sacs in the City of Tamecula would be
consistent with the new standards.
· ~ Advised that the 600-foot length dead-end street standard proposed is
consistent with standards maintained in other cities.
· ~ Relayed that additional language could be added to the Ordinance to state
that dead-end streets would be solely permitted on an intedm basis.
For Commissioner Fahey:
· ~ Defined the term cul-de-sac.
· ~ Specified that the 600-foot length standard regarding cul-de-sacs and dead-
end streets would be measured from the intersection.
Commissioner Webster recommended that with regard to the flexibility within the
cul-de-sac standard that it be in conjunction with the zoning district rather than lot
size; suggested that the 600-foot cul-de-sac standard only apply to Low Medium,
Medium, and High Density Residential; and recommended that the language in
Section B3, page 9 of the Ordinance text be modified for provision to ensure
flexibility.
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In response to Commissioner Webster's querying regarding the modified approval
procedure with respect to tentative map extensions, ^ttomey Cudey provided
clarification; and additionally, provided clarification regarding the term compatible
(referencing page g, Section B3 of the proposed Ordinance.)
With respect to required park size, for Commissioners Webster and Mathewson,
Planning Manager Ubnoske advised the page 40, Section 16.30.100, paragraph
A, provides provision for flexibility; and Attorney Cudey further cladfied the
aforementioned matter.
For informational purposes with respect to page 21, Section 16.18.160 which
references Section 16.04.110, Commissioner Mathewson relayed that he could
not located the referenced code in the Ordinance.
Mr. Wayne Hall, 42131 Agena Street, relayed concurrence with the revised
standard encompassed in the revised Ordinance to shorten the cul-de-sac and
dead-end length standards, noting that the requirement provides for additional
safety restricting the need for commercial trucks to be forced to back up in reverse
out of the streets due the visual aid of being able to see that the street is not a
through-street due to the shortened length.
At this time Chairman Guerriero closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Fahey commended staff for their diligent efforts associated with the
revised Ordinance; recommended approving the proposal and revisiting this issue
for further modifications after the Ordinance had been in effect for a period of time;
and concurred with Commissioner Mathewson's comments regarding allowance
of dead-end streets solely for interim periods.
Concurring with Fahey's comments, Commissioner Mathewson recommended
moving forward with the revised Ordinance, providing an opportunity at a later
point in time for addressing problem issues that arise with the implementation of
the Ordinance.
Commissioner Webster recommended the following modifications:
That the permitted flexibility for cul-de-sac lengths beyond 600 feet be
applied per zoning distdct
· That the language be rephrased on page 9, Section B3 (regarding lot
size and arrangement) to incorporate flexibility
That the word expressways be deleted on page 10, paragraph E, and
replaced with major roadways or greater, for clarification
That the referenced flood control channel term be deleted, and the
area be treated as an open-space area
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Commissioner Naggar noted that he had previously addressed his concerns with
staff; and relayed his support of the revised Ordinance with the provision of
revisiting the matter in one year.
Chairman Guerriero commended staff on their fine work regarding the formation of
the revised Ordinance.
MOTION: Commissioner Naggar moved to approve the revised Ordinance; adopt
Resolution No. 99-019, recommending that the City Council adopt a Negative
Declaration for Title 16 of the Temecula Development Code; and recommended
that the City Council approve the City of Temecula's Subdivision Ordinance, Title
16 of the Development Code subject to the attached modifications. Commissioner
Fahey seconded the motion.
For Commissioner Webster, Mr. Davidson, representing Riverside County Fire
Department, clarified that any roadway or driveway more than 150 feet in length
would be required to maintain an adequate turn-around radius for emergency
vehicles.
Planning Manager Ubnoske advised that while the City generally does not permit
dead-end streets, they are allowable for interim phases of development; and
relayed that staff would clarify the language of the Ordinance to state that there
would be a second point of access required.
RESOLUTION NO. PC 99-020
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
TEMECULA RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT A
REVISED SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
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· That the Ordinance be further reviewed by the Planning Commission after
one year's implementation
· That dead-end streets be permitted solely on an interim basis
· That the allowable flexibility for cul-de-sac lengths beyond 600 feet be
granted per zoning district, rather than per lot size
· That the language be modified on page 9, Section B3 (regarding lot size
and arrangement) to incorporate assurance of flexibility via Attorney
Curley's determination of appropriate rephrasing
· That the word expressways be replaced with the term major roadways or
greater
· That the term flood control channel be deleted and that the areas be
treated as open-space areas
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· That the revisions that the Public Works Department recommended (per
supplemental agenda matadal) be added
Voice vote was taken and reflected unanimous approval.
PLANNING MANAGER'S REPORT
A. Planning Manager Ubnoske relayed upcoming projects, as follows: The
Rodpaugh Ranch Specific Plan, Home Depot, and vadous Development
Agreements, noting that the information regarding the large projects would
be provided to the Commission in advance.
B. Attorney Curley relayed the Development Agreements that would be
presented to the Commission and the associated eminent domain issues.
COM MISSIONER REPORTS
A. For informational purposes, Commissioner Webster relayed the recent
proposed traffic improvements on Rancho California Road recommended
by the Public/Traffic Safety Commission.
B. Regarding the proposed Sports Park, Commissioner Webster queded
whether the proposed location of the site had been determined, and
whether the Commission would have an opportunity to review the matter,
specifically recommending that the location be sited on the east side of the
freeway.
Planning Manager Ubnoske and Deputy Director of Public Works Parks
provided clarification as to the procedure of addressing the
aforementioned concerns.
C. Commissioner Naggar recommended that staff provide a map for the
Planning Commission encompassing the following: 1) projects that are
existing, and 2) existing roads, in order to adequately address the impact
proposed projects would have in the area.
After receiving input from the Commission, Planning Manager Ubnoske
relayed that she would investigate the matter; and relayed that provision of
a GIS map or aerial map depicting the City and streets would be easily
attainable.
D. In response to Commissioner Naggar's querying, Planning Manager
Ubnoske relayed that the American Planning Association is planning a
Workshop for July 31, 1999 regarding entry level information with respect
to grading and architecture; noted that the City would fund the
Commissioners' attendance; and relayed that she would provide additional
information at a future point in time.
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E. In response to Chairman Guerdero's comments regarding the lighting at
the Girls and Boys Club on Pujol Street, Deputy Director of Public Works
relayed additional information.
F. For Chairman Guerriero, Deputy Director of Public Works Parks relayed
that he would be agreeable to Commissioners calling to inform the City of
existing blockaded lanes of travel on streets, after improvements have
been completed, in order to expedite removal of the blockades.
ADJOURNMENT
At 8:23 P.M. Chairman Guerriero formally adjourned this meeting to Wednesday,
July 21, 1999 at 6:00 P.M., in the City Council Chambers, 43200 Business Park
Drive, Temecula.
Rorr~ Guerri&ro, 13hairman Debbie Ubnoske, Planning Manager
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