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MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE OLD TOWN TEMECULA
LOCAL REVIEW BOARD
DECEMBER 13, 1999
CALL TO ORDER
The Old Town Temecula Local Review Board convened in a regular meeting at 9:08 A.M., on
Monday, December 13, 1999, in the Temecula Community Center, 28816 Pujol Street,
Temecula, California.
At this time, Chairman Harker had those present introduce themselves.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Board Members Allen, Blair, Montgomery, Ross, and
Chairman Harker
Absent:
Board Member Mighell.
Also Present:
Assistant Planner Anders,
Development Processing Coordinator Noland,
Senior Redevelopment Analyst Powers,
Code Enforcement Officer Brownell, and
Minute Clerk Hansen
BOARD BUSINESS
1. Public Discussion
No comments.
Approval of Minutes - November 1, 1999 (Walking Tour), November 8, 1999
(Regular Meeting), and November 9, 1999 (Traininq Session)
MOTION: Board Member Ross moved to approve the minutes of November 1, November 8,
and November 9, 1999. The motion was seconded by Board Member Allen and voice vote
reflected approval with the exception of Board Member Mighell who was absent.
3. Old Business
No comments.
4. New Business
A. Mad Madeline's
Project Planner Anders presented the site plan, specifying the proposed improvement project
located on the north elevation; noted that this padicular project would encompass enlarging the
patio area, and paint application which would be consistent with the existing colors; for Board
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Member Ross, advised that the Board could recommend that the applicant replace the plywood
with a better quality alternate wood.
Board Member Ross relayed that he would be reluctant to formally approve the project with
Board action due to the applicant's desire to perpetuate the exiting red color (which was
inconsistent with the color palette); and noted that the proposal would improve the visual
appearance in comparison to the existing appearance.
Project Planner Anders provided additional information regarding the magnitude of projects
which would be required to be in compliance with the City standards (per the Old Town Specific
Plan regulations).
After review of the proposed project, it was the consensus of the Board to recommend that staff
approve or deny the applicant's request.
B. Old Town Plaza Facade Improvement
Board Member Allen advised that he would be abstaining with regard to this Agenda Item.
Via color renderings,' Mr. Walt Allen, representing the applicant, presented the proposed site
plan; specified the architectural enhancements which would encompass adding antiquated
Western barn-type ornamental articulation; for Chairman Harker, specified the proposal on the
west elevation, noting the location of the retainer wall (denoted on page 3 of the site plans);
advised that the proposed designed project was conceptualized by Mr. Bob Morris; specified the
articulation on the columns; provided additional information regarding the design modification
with respect to the existing Circle K parapet; noted that the arches would be a stucco material;
for Board Member Ross, clarified that the stonework would be either stucco stone, or river rock
stone which would be similar to the stone which had been utilized on the adjacent boardwalk.
For Board Member Ross, Chairman Harker relayed the utilization of stonework at alternate sites
in Old Town.
Project Planner Anders advised that the Board could request to have provision of the
manufacturer's brochure, displaying the application of the proposed stone in order to visually
review the material.
Mr. Tom Maxwell, the applicant, relayed that the proposed stone articulation was a design
concept of Mr. Bob Morris, advising that the applicant would be agreeable to replacing the
proposed stone if that was the desire of the Board.
Chairman Harker advised that the use of stone was period appropriate, noting the utilization of
the material in the 1920's.
In response to the Board's querying, Mr. Allen relayed that when the sample material board was
available he would bring it forward before the Board.
Project Planner Anders recommended that the project site adopt a Sign Program in order to
facilitate a consistent visual appearance on the uses.
Mr. Maxwell provided additional information regarding the proposed signage.
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Mr. Alien, echoed by the applicant, relayed the potential modification at the existing ATM
location.
With respect to the ATM site, for Project Planner Anders, Mr. Maxwell relayed the he would be
agreeable to conditioning the project whereby if the ATM portion of the site was not included in
the overall Development Plan that within a specified timeframe it would be required to be
brought into compliance architecturally with the Old Town Plaza Design.
In light of the lack of availability of the material and color board, Project Planner Anders advised
that the Board could approve the overall architectural design, and have the material board
brought back to the Board at a future point in time; and advised that the sign program would be
addressed separately, noting for Board Member Blair, that the signage plan would be brought
before the Board.
MOTION: Board Member Blair moved to approve the architectural design of this particular
project, as presented, and to have the applicant bring forward to the Board the cotors, materials,
and signage plan at a future point in time. Board Member Ross seconded the motion and voice
vote reflected approval with the exception of Board Member Mighell who was absent and Board
Member Allen who abstained.
The applicant provided a general overview of the potential tenants; and in response to Project
Planner Anders' comments, relayed the it was his opinion that a Starbucks site would be an
ideal use for the Center.
For informational purposes, Board Member Ross relayed that a Cracker Barrel Restaurant use
would fit into the Old Town Temecula theme.
C. Ralph Brownell (Code Enforcement)
Code Enforcement Officer Brownell advised the Board that sign enforcement had begun in Old
Town with respect to temporary signs (i.e., banners); noted that enforcement of permanent
signage would begin at the first of the year; with respect to the temporary signage, advised that
after 277 inspections, there were solely 25 violations, relaying that half the violators complied
after the first Notice of Violation, and that after the second Notice of Violation all of the
merchants had complied with the exception of one; specified the extensions granted and the
rationale associated with the extended time period; relayed that the words Beer and Wine
Garden had been printed on the Old Town Mural, advising that the merchant had been given 30
days to remove the printing.
For Chairman Harker, Development Processing Coordinator Noland clarified that enforcement
for permanent signage would begin at the beginning of the year.
Mr. Brownell noted the procedure of working with the merchants to bring the signs into
compliance which entailed relaying to the merchants alternate options that were in compliance
with Code; and provided copies of the specific standards for Old Town signage to the Board.
In response to Board Member Allen, Mr. Brownell further specified the response from the
merchants with respeot to his contact; and relayed that the City had sent thank-you
correspondences to all the merchants who initially responded by complying.
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For Board Member Ross, Mr. Brownell relayed that with the exception of the specified
extensions, and the one site out of compliance, all of Old Town was in compliance with the
standards associated with temporary signage; and relayed that at the beginning of the year a
letter would be sent to the merchants regarding permanent signage, noting that Chief Building
Official EImo would get counsel from the City Council prior to the onset of enforcement.
For Project Planner Anders, Mr. Brownell noted that although in the past the turnout had not
been successful, there would be workshops scheduled for the Old Town merchants as an
informational meeting.
In response to Chairman Harker's recommendation, Mr. Brownell noted that he would relay to
staffthe proposal to hold the workshop in Old Town in lieu of City Hall (i.e., the new Museum).
5. Consultation
No comments.
6. Board Discussion
Board Member Blair queried the Board for their input with respect to the recently held training
session, whereby the Board met with staff management to discuss Old Town issues.
Board Member Ross noted that staff had relayed their support of the Board, with respect to their
purview, and past action.
Board Member Blair relayed that he had anticipated receiving specific direct guidelines from
staff in order to clarify the Board's purview with respect to Old Town regulations enforcement.
For Board Member Allen, Project Planner Anders confirmed that the meeting of discussion was
when provision of the enforcement letter was made available to the Board for review.
Project Planner Anders relayed the goal of the meeting had been to receive input from
management with respect to the role of the Board and the specificity of enforcement with
respect to signage (i.e., colors, and fonts)
Board Member Ross relayed that it was his opinion that the Board compromised their
adherence to rigid restrictions with respect to signage due to the discussions with Deputy City
Manager Thornhill, agreeing to remain flexible with respect to sign standards, and to determine
approval on a case-by-case basis.
While acknowledging the need for standards, Board Member Allen relayed that it was his
opinion that the Board should remain flexible in light of the fact that the color palette was a
proprietary color chart.
Board Member Ross advised that the strength of the Board relied upon the specificity of the
standard guidelines; and relayed that it was his opinion that the Board should adhere to
following the color palette, unless there was sound rationale for granting a minor exception.
Project Planner Anders relayed that in general, Deputy City Manager Thornhill was more flexible
with respect to colors, noting that various staff members, as well as Board Members varied in
their opinion with respect to strict adherence or a flexible approval process for signage; and
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reiterated that Deputy City Manager Thornhill advised that it was within the purview of the Board
to make these decisions.
Board Member Blair relayed that he received no additional specificity from staff with respect to
colors or materials, which would be consistent with Old Town guidelines.
For Board Member Ross, Andes relayed that the Board could contact Code Enforcement Officer
Brownell with respect to specific sites in Old Town that were in disrepair, specifically if there
were associated health and safety issues.
Development Processing Coordinator Noland asked the Board to verify their name and address
information before leaving the meeting, and to make any necessary corrections.
For Board Members Blair and Ross, Mr. Brownell relayed the role of Code Enforcement in the
City of Temecula, specifying that one day each week was dedicated to Old Town; noted that
Code Enforcement staff worked for four hours each weekend day; specified the procedure for
addressing garage sale signage within the City; and advised that Code Enforcement also
responded on a complaint basis.
Project Planner Anders thanked Code Enforcement Officer Brownell for his helpful input and
update.
Chairman Harker relayed wishes to the Board and staff for a Merry Christmas and a rewarding
new century.
7. Staff Approvals
No comments.
ADJOURNMENT
At 10:20 A.M. Chairman Harker formally adjourned this meeting to Monday, January 10, 2000
at 9:00 A. M., in the Temecula Community Center, 28816 Pujol Street, Temecula.
Chairman William Harker
Assistant Planner Patricia Anders
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