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MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE OLD TOWN TEMECULA
LOCAL REVIEW BOARD
JULY 10, 2000
CALL TO ORDER
The Old Town Temecula Local Review Board convened in a regular meeting at 9:02 A.M., on
Monday, July 10, 2000, in the Community Development Conference Room of Temecula City
Hall, 43200 Business Park Drive, Temecula, California.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Board Members Alien, Blair, Montgomery, *Ross, and
Chairman Harker.
Absent: None.
Also Present:
Senior Planner Rockholt,
Assistant Planner Anders,
Development Processing Coordinator Noland,
Housing Redevelopment Manager Meyer, and
Minute Clerk Hansen
*(It was noted that Board Member Ross arrived at 9:05 A.M.)
At this time, Deputy City Clerk Ballreich duly swore
In the newly appointed Altemate Board Member,
Mr. Fred Perkins.
PUBLIC DISCUSSION
No comments.
BOARD BUSINESS
1. Approval of Minutes - June 12, 2000
It was noted that Board Member Ross arrived at 9:05 A.M.
Board Member Montgomery, echoed by staff, relayed that Councilman Pratt was not the liaison
for the Old Town Local Review Board as indicated on page 2 of the minutes. (It is noted that
after this meeting it had been clarified, via the City Clerk's office, that Councilman Pratt was the
liaison for the Board.)
Board Member Allen indicated that on page 2, in the second paragraph, that the word
speechifying should be corrected to indicate specifying.
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MOTION: Board Member Blair moved to approve the minutes, as amended. Board Member
Montgomery seconded the motion and voice vote reflected unanimous approval.
2. Old Business
a. Sign Enforcement Program Update
Development Processing Coordinator Noland provided an update regarding the enforcement in
Old Town with respect to permanent signage.
In response to Board Member Blair, Assistant Planner Anders relayed the permitting process for
temporary signs. Development Processing Coordinator Noland relayed that various merchants
had been cited for signage; noted that signs displayed in vehicles was prohibited; and relayed
that staff would investigate the collage-type sign at the Calico Coffee use site,
Via a memorandum dated July 6, 2000, Assistant Planner Anders provided additional
information regarding enforcement regarding the display of the A-frame signs.
b. Off-Site Directional Signs (S de Streets)
Assistant Planner Anders relayed that per discussions with the City Attorney, it would be legally
feasible to install generic off-site directional signs in Old Town; and for informational purposes,
noted that Mr. Doc Laine had presented his signage concerns to the City Council.
For Board Member Ross, Assistant Planner Anders relayed that staff had not requested the City
Attorney to respond in written form to the letter signed by Chairman Harker, noting that it was
not typical for a written response to be provided.
After additional discussion regarding the Board's letter which had been addressed to Director of
Planning Ubnoske, Assistant Planner Anders relayed that she would request Director of
Planning Ubnoske to draft a memorandum noting that the issues had been addressed with the
City Attorney.
Board Member Blair relayed that he would desire to see a copy of the letter that had been
signed by various Board Members.
With respect to the sign guidelines, Board Member Montgomery relayed that in Chapter 3, on
Page 49 of the Specific Plan, under Section 5, entitled Prohibited Signs in Old Town, that
monument signage was prohibited in front of any building in Old Town; noted that Councilman
Roberts had relayed that he would further investigate the language of the Specific Plan; advised
that it was his opinion that the intent was to prohibit monument signage if there was less than
150 feet of frontage, or less than 10 feet of setback, referencing alternate portions of the
Specific Plan; and relayed that after the language was clarified it would revise the conditions of
enforcement.
Housing Redevelopment Manager Meyer relayed that staff would investigate the intent of the
January 1996 amendment in order to obtain clarification.
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3. New Business
a. Butterfield Inn (New Wall Sign) 28718 Old Town Front Street
Development Processing Coordinator Noland presented the proposed sign plan; and provided a
sample of the paper-like material that was proposed for use in the lettering. Assistant Planner
Anders relayed that the sign company had advised that this particular material would last for five
years.
Chairman Harker relayed that in his opinion, the size of the letters appeared larger than was
appropriate.
After additional discussion, Assistant Planner Anders suggested recommending to the applicant
that the letter size be reduced. Development Processing Coordinator Noland, referencing the
Specific Plan, relayed the recommendation for 16-inch letters.
Board Member Montgomery recommended that sealed wood letters be utilized in lieu of the new
material.
Board Member Allen relayed that he was not pleased with the new material for the letters, or the
proposed red color.
Development Processing Coordinator Noland relayed that the applicant was proposing to re-
paint the building to a beige color.
Additional discussion ensued regarding the proposed signage.
Chairman Harker recommended that the letters on the signage be 20 inches in height.
Assistant Planner Anders clarified that the Specific Plan did prohibit paper materials for signage,
In response, Chairman Harker recommended the use of wood (i.e., birch).
It was the consensus of the Board to have staff encourage the applicant to reduce the size of
the letters, to utilize a wood material, and to provide an overall color scheme.
4. Consultation
It was noted that Board Member Allen left the meeting at 9:58 A.M.
Assistant Planner Anders relayed the signage at the Emporium Building, noting that permitting
had been required for the signs.
BOARD RECOMMENDATION: It was the general consensus of the Board (Board Member
Allen being absent at this time) to recommend approval of the proposed individual unit signs at
the Emporium, based on their review of the signage.
Board Member Montgomery queried whether the existing legends (directories of the buildings in
Old Town located proximate to the bridge and on Old Town Front Street) could be modified to
list the businesses in order to make the public aware of the available entities, similar to a mall
directory; recommended that the directories be placed in all the public parking lots; and relayed
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that if the Merchant's Association was reinstated the Association could be responsible for
updating the directory.
While concurring with the previous recommendation, staff relayed that there may be legal
restraints prohibiting the denotation of specific names of businesses.
Additional discussion ensued regarding the installation of the generic off-site signage, Board
Member Montgomery recommending that there be signage placed in the sidewalk prior to the
beginning of the boardwalk, adjacent to the silhouette designs that are currently placed in this
area; and relayed that the signage could encompass directional arrows with the wording stating
more shops.
Board Member Blair relayed a preference for standing pole signage for the generic off-site
directional signage.
With respect to the off-site signage, Assistant Planner Anders relayed that the City Attorney's
position was conservative for the purpose of avoiding litigation.
With respect to the legend directories, Assistant Planner Anders relayed that along with
investigating the legal issues, there would need to be investigation with respect to appropriate
placement.
Assistant Planner Anders relayed that staff was still at the preliminary stages in the process of
developing the generic directional signs, noting that there were restrictions associated with the
installment (i.e., a seven foot minimum height requirement), advising that the Board would be
updated as the plans evolve.
Additional discussion ensued regarding concepts for the generic directional sign installments,
Board Member Ross recommending placement on private property in order to avoid the seven-
foot minimum height requirement.
Senior Planner Rockholt relayed that prior to the generic directional signage placement there
would need to be additional discussions with alternate City Departments, advising that there
may need to be a workshop held for discussion of this issue.
Chairman Harker recommended that the Board Members further discuss the issue of directional
signage at the next meeting.
At 10:35 A.M. the meeting recessed, reconvening at 10:40 A.M. in the Main Conference Room
for a video presentation.
5. Board Discussion
a. Oatman, Arizona Video Presentation
Chairman Harker presented a video presentation, providing an overview of the history of the Old
Town in Oatman, Arizona.
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6. Staff Approvals
No input.
ADJOURNMENT
At 11:07 A.M. Chairman Harker formally adjourned this meeting to Monday, August 14, 2000,
at 9:00 A. M., in the Community Development Conference Room of Temecula City Hall, 43200
Business Park Drive, Temecula, California.
Chairman William Harker
Assistant Planner Patricia Anders