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HomeMy WebLinkAbout110501 OTLRB MinutesMINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE OLD TOWN TEMECULA LOCAL REVIEW BOARD NOVEMBER 5, 2001 CALL TO ORDER The Old Town Temecula Local Review Board convened in a regular meeting at 9:50 A.M., on Monday, November 5, 2001, in the Community Development Conference Room of Temecula City Hall, 43200 Business Park Drive, Temecula, California. This Board meeting convened at 8:07 A.M. for the purpose of a walking tour of Old Town. The tour was adjourned at 9:30 A.M. and the Board reconvened at 9:50 A,M, at the City Hall for its regularly scheduled meeting. ROLL CALL Present: Absent. Also Present: PUBLIC COMMENTS No comments. CONSENT CALENDAR 1. Aqenda Allen, Blair, Montgomery, Ross, and Harker. None. Director of Planning Ubnoske, Development Processing Coordinator Noland, Redevelopment Director Meyer, Redevelopment Management Analyst Hillberg, and Minute Clerk Ice. RECOMMENDATION 1.1 Approve agenda of November 5, 2001. MOTION: Board Member Montgomery moved to approve the minutes, as written. The motion was seconded by Board Member Ross and voice vote reflected unanimous approval. 2. Minutes RECOMMENDATION 2.1 Approve the Minutes of September 10, 2001; R:/Oldrown/LRB/Minutes/110501 1 2.2 Approve the Minutes of October 8, 2001; 2.3 Approve the Minutes of October 22, 2001. MOTION: Board Member Montgomery moved to approve the minutes, as written. The motion was seconded by Board Member Ross and voice vote reflected unanimous approval, with the exception of Board Member Ross who requested a change for the Minutes of October 8, 2001, noting the word delineated be changed to deviated. BOARD BUSINESS 3. Planninq Application No. 01-0305 - Application for a Certificate of Historical Appropriateness to restyle a secondary residence located nearest to Pujoi Street Applicant Otto and Nancy Baron. RECOMMENDATION: 3.1 That the Old Town Temecula Local Review Board request the applicant to make specific design modifications to the project and resubmit the proposal. Because of the technical concerns/issues expressed by the Planning Department, Board Member Montgomery suggested that this issue be postponed and that staff meet with the Applicant in order to not further delay the project. Mr. Shaffer, contractor for the project, advised that he was present to answer the Board's questions and concerns. In response to Montgomery, Director of Planning Ubnoske had advised that staff considered the possibility of an additional meeting in order to discuss this issue as well as another project, noting that it would be staff's intent to receive the Board's concerns/comments at this time with regard to project No. 01-0305. For Board Member Montgomery, Director of Planning Ubnoske advised that buildings could be modified to the extent that they don't expand the floor area. Board Member Blair further addressed the legal non-conforming issue as it relates to the repair and remodel, and requested that staff further address the matter and provide input to the Board Members. In an effort to not further delay this project, Board Member Montgomery confirmed that to accommodate the Applicant, the Board would be willing to hold an additional meeting with regard to Mrs. Baron's project. It was the unanimous consensus of the Board to postpone this item to Tuesday, November 13, 2001, 9:00 a.m. (City Hall location to be determined). 4. Planninq Application No. 01-0493 - Application for two wall si.qns to be erected by Land and Sea Marine Service on the south and east elevations of a buildinq at 41923 Second Street. RECOMMENDATION: 4.1 That the Old Town Temecula Local Review Board review and evaluate the modern letter font and multiple colors used in their design and provide direction for staff. R:/OIdTown/LRB/M[nutes/110501 2 Development Processing Coordinator Noland reviewed the staff report (as per written record). Chairman Harker relayed his concerns with regard to the two (2) proposed signs, highlighting the exceeded allowable number of colors, four (4), as per the Old Town Specific Plan, and the prepared font (not a western theme). In response to Chairman Harker, Director of Planning Ubnoske advised that as per Assistant City Attorney Curley, because of construction issues, it would be difficult for the Board to limit a desired business's logo/trademark, et cetera, noting that items such as trademarks and Iogos could be amended in the Specific Plan. Development Processing Coordinator Noland noted that artwork would not be part of the logo. Board Member Montgomery commented on the importance of a logo in the establishment of a business, suggesting that the boat graphic be removed from the sign and incorporated into a super graphic on the building, and noting that he has no objection with the requested font. For Board Member Ross, Director of Planning Ubnoske noted that, to her understanding, the Board would not be able to restrict the size of the logo, but stated that the Board may make desirable sign recommendations, such as smaller Iogos, which could be forwarded to the City Attorney for review and then forwarded to the Applicant. Board Member Ross reiterated his concern with the appearance of the wave on the logo; clarified that his intent would not be to restrict Iogos; suggested the establishment of policies, whereby signs would have to conform with colors, design, and the Old Town theme, noting if the logo were not to conform with color, design and theme, then the logo cannot predominately encompass the entire sign, and should therefore, be placed on the sign as a super graphic. Discussion ensued with respect to the allowable sign, and possibly alternate sites as well as support for the use of super graphics. Viewing the proposed font as not being of a western theme, Board Member Blair expressed concern for the proposed font. Redevelopment Director' Meyer suggested that the Iogos, with the exception of national incorporated identities; concurred with the Board's desire that the logo not "predominately~' cover the entire design of the sign. Board Member Ross moved that the Applicant be requested to consider that a less predominate logo be developed for the desired sign; and emphasized the Board's future decisions on such signs be done in a more consistent manner. Board Member Blair expressed a great concern with respect to the boat graphic. MOTION: Board Member Allen moved to approve the recommendation to consider making the logo less predominate; that the principle facade be made smaller and more concise, and that the boat, the sun, and possibly other super graphics be used, but that an older version of a boat be utilized; and that the sign be brought back to the Board for approval. The motion was seconded by Board Member Blair and voice vote reflected approval with the exception of Board Member Montgomery who opposed. R:/OIdTown/LRB/Minutes/110501 3 Discussion followed regarding the modernisms of the boat used on the graphic and that it does not seem to fit into the Old Town Specific Plan; and was suggested that it be moro of an aged boat (Chris Craft or Schooner with an anchor). 5. Children's Museum Conceptual Master Plan RECOMMENDATION: 5.1 Approve the signage for the Imagination Workshop, Temecula Children's Museum; 5.2 Approve the exterior elevation renderings for the Imagination Workshop, Temecula Children's Museum. Director of Community Services Parker reviewed the staff report, providing an overview of the Children's Museum Project; and advised that a pre-opening tour would be scheduled for the Board/Commission/Staff. Redevelopment Director' Meyer further commented on the project, highlighting the signage (cut- out letters), wind vane (old western appearance, moving parts), exterior elevations, and Specific Plan color schemes. Director of Planning Ubnoske suggested that the addition of the number of colors (currently limited to four colors) within the Old Town Specific Plan be addressed during the Specific Plan Review meeting. Board Member Ross recommended that the Specific Plan be changed to include more than the four (4) colors, and that the project be approved as long as it would adhere to the Old Town Specific Plan color chart. MOTION: With regard to 5.1, Board Member Ross moved to approve the sign and weather vane, subject to complying with the Old Town Specific Plan color chart and to review the rostricted number of colors in the near future to include more than four colors. The motion was seconded by Board Member Allen and voice vote reflected unanimous approval. MOTION: With regard to 5.2, Board Member Allen moved to approve the exterior elevations of the Children's Museum as presented. The motion was seconded by Board Member Ross and voice vote reflected unanimous approval. Although supporting the overall design, Board Member Montgomery expressed dismay with the Board's inconsistency in disallowing a previous modern concept while approving another modern concept. 6. 2002-2006 Capital Improvement Proqram for City of Temecula RECOMMENDATION: 6.1 That the Old Town Temecula Local Review Board receive and file this report. Redevelopment Director' Meyer reviewed the staff report (per written agenda), highlighting the following: R;/OIdTowWLRB/M[nutes/110501 4 1. Children's Museum. 2. Old Town Temecula Theater. 3. Old Town Gateway Landscaping. · Noted the area of discussion would be south of the Stampede. · Referenced, as per Carl Ross, that a localized area be considered for day laborers. 4. Old Town Identification Plan - no funding source has been designated. 5. Future Old Town Projects - no funding has been identified. Director of Planning Ubnoske suggested that the Local Review Board be given the opportunity to review the CIP prior to it being forwarded to the City Council for its review. 6. Housing: · Clarified the term "affordable housing". MOTION: Chairman Harker moved to receive and file this report as presented. The motion was seconded by Board Member Montgomery and voice vote reflected unanimous approval. BOARD MEMBER'S REPORTS A. Board Member Ross relayed his delight with the progress this Board has made in its contributions to the City. DIRECTOR OF PLANNING REPORT Director of Planning Ubnoske noted the following: · Apologized for missing the walking tour; · Noted that the water mugs will be forthcoming; · Advised that statf and the attorney will discuss the issue as per agenda Item No. 2; · Suggested the review of design standards for public buildings versus municipal buildings; · Recommended that the area south of Old Town be included in the Specific Plan. R:/OIdTown/LR B,'Min utes/11050'1 5 ADJOURNMENT At 11:45 A.M. Chairman Harker formally adjourned this meeting to Monda¥~ December 10~ 2001 at 9:00 A.M. in the Community Development Conference Room, City Hall, 43200 Business Park Drive, Temecula, CA 92590 Chairman William Harker Di~e~to~ of Planning Debbie S. Ubnoske R:/O~dTowr~/LRB/Minutes/110501 6